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High Court Rules Dog Sniff During Traffic Stop OK Without Suspicion Of Drugs
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| 1/24/2005
Posted on 01/24/2005 9:20:02 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Hmm.
I still get to choose my own job, or no job. That wasn't available in East Germany.
I still get to choose where I live. That wasn't available in East Germany.
My taxes are lower than anywhere in Europe. Ditto East Germany.
I choose my doctor.
I get a few bonus years at the end of my life that people born in other countrie don't get.
I can be part of the government if I want to. Or not.
etc.
Hyperbole suits you and your friends, Laz.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:35:03 AM PST
by
sam_paine
(X .................................)
To: ellery
Okay, so in this case the dog was used while the defendant was "lawfully seized in a traffic violation." How long before dogs are used at the drunk-driving roadblocks, where everyone is seized with no probable cause? How long until cops have the dogs stroll around shopping center parking lots? Still slip-sliding down that slippery slope...and the defenders of this crap will only scream bloody murder when it's THEY who are inconvenienced.Just you wait. It's not even about the dogs, it's about the probes and sensors just around the corner. Got some outdated prescriptions in the cabinet? Well, we detected it with our InYerFaceTM interior-dwelling drug probe. YOU ****ING DRUG FELON, UP AGAINST THE M*****F*****G WALL, PUNK, BEFORE I HAVE TO SHOO...(BANG)
To: Lazamataz
There goes that Amendment. Strike "unreasonable search" from the record.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:36:55 AM PST
by
thoughtomator
(Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
To: Lazamataz
I'm glad to see virtually nobody on this thread defending the decision... though I'm sure they'll show up soon enough. :(
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:37:35 AM PST
by
Sloth
(Al Franken is a racist.)
To: Lazamataz
Unbelievable. These people are no Conservatives.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:37:45 AM PST
by
Finalapproach29er
(I can no longer discern reality from satire on this site. America is losing her common sense.)
To: ellery
The dogs were strolling thru my high school back in the early '80s. Actually had them come thru my Algebra class while we were taking a test and sniff my crotch. After they left, I refused to finish the test, and our teacher agreed.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:37:55 AM PST
by
cspackler
(There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
To: sam_paine
Well now, if we compare favorably in freedom to Communist East Germany, then I guess there's no need to worry.
/sarcasm
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:37:57 AM PST
by
thoughtomator
(Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
To: sam_paine
So because they are tossing you a few scraps, you would argue that we are as free as we were even 20 years ago?
If you're happy and you know it, rattle your chains....
To: lodwick
This should be a very long thread, but I fear that it won't.
The debate out in the country is...well its no where to be found.
BigMack
To: FreePaul
you need to get a grip, there is no violation of any freedom here. Goodness, the man was checked for carrying ILLEGAL drugs. what part of illegal do you not understand. He was not pulled from his car, he was not abused in anyway, his car was not stripped or torn apart. The air from his car was sniffed by a dog and the dog reacted to the ILLEGAL drugs he had. As I state when the Left gets extreme on rulings; the bill of rights and the constitution is not a suicide pact. This is a minor inconvenience to the average drive and a problem for the criminal... and whats wrong with causing criminals problems?
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:39:26 AM PST
by
Bigs from the North
(Michigan: a state surrounded by water; a sea of red with islands of blue)
To: Lazamataz
Last time I went to Scotland, I remember an incident between a local cop and lady which surprised me. A cop was walking his beat, chatting with a fellow on the sidewalk. A car pulled up and parked in a loading zone, downtown Edinburgh.
The driver, a lady, got out of the her car. The cop called her and told her to move her car from the loadling zone. Instead of obeying, she just told him that she was doing a quick stop and kept walking toward her intended store. The cop continued chatting with the other fellow like nothing had happened.
If that had been in LA or Miami, the lady might have had her car impounded and arrested. The friendly relationship between cops and citizens is disappearing rapidly in our country.
To: oh8eleven
"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." - T. JeffersonYeah. T.J. was prescient, or actually, just observant. Even our beneficant government, whilst once on the side of 'the people', have turned into the oppressors.
Only problem is, there's no New Frontier to go to any more. We're stuck.
To: Lazamataz
Another day, another privacy lost.Your Papers, please...
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:40:24 AM PST
by
pageonetoo
(I could name them, but you'll spot their posts soon enough.)
To: Lazamataz
Be careful to insure that the officer does not touch your car during the sniff, according to Boston T. Party's "You and the Police."
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:40:45 AM PST
by
mvpel
(Michael Pelletier)
Comment #35 Removed by Moderator
To: Lazamataz
I guess we all know which way the court will be deciding when probes and sensors are devised that can peer into your house. They've already decided on that (infrared cameras). It's not allowed.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:41:29 AM PST
by
Moonman62
(Republican - The political party for the living.)
To: george wythe
The driver, a lady, got out of the her car. The cop called her and told her to move her car from the loadling zone. Instead of obeying, she just told him that she was doing a quick stop and kept walking toward her intended store. The cop continued chatting with the other fellow like nothing had happened.Amazing.
In America, this lady would have had lost some teeth after having been slammed onto the pavement.... if she hadn't been shot or tazered outright.
To: sam_paine
You must enjoy all the hoops we half to jump thru these days because our Goverment knows what is best for us.
BigMack
To: Bigs from the North
There is no way to rule innocent men.
When one need criminals, one simply invents them.
It's called the tyrrany of small laws, and its well along.
A cop can now go into anyone's house and find a reason to arrest them. There are no innocent men anymore.
The sleeping Gulliver is only a string or two from being unable to rise again.
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
This decision is just wrong. Sad indeed.
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posted on
01/24/2005 9:44:17 AM PST
by
Cheetah1
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