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To: Lazamataz

Hmm.

I still get to choose my own job, or no job. That wasn't available in East Germany.

I still get to choose where I live. That wasn't available in East Germany.

My taxes are lower than anywhere in Europe. Ditto East Germany.

I choose my doctor.

I get a few bonus years at the end of my life that people born in other countrie don't get.

I can be part of the government if I want to. Or not.

etc.

Hyperbole suits you and your friends, Laz.


21 posted on 01/24/2005 9:35:03 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Well now, if we compare favorably in freedom to Communist East Germany, then I guess there's no need to worry.

/sarcasm


27 posted on 01/24/2005 9:37:57 AM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: sam_paine
So because they are tossing you a few scraps, you would argue that we are as free as we were even 20 years ago?

If you're happy and you know it, rattle your chains....

28 posted on 01/24/2005 9:37:58 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: sam_paine

You must enjoy all the hoops we half to jump thru these days because our Goverment knows what is best for us.

BigMack


38 posted on 01/24/2005 9:42:41 AM PST by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (aka: Horselifter, Mackdaddy:)
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To: sam_paine

Yes, and until it affects you directly in a serious and terrible way, you're going to stick your head in the sand and sit by while every aspect of freedom we've taken for granted is stripped away from us one by one. You have the right to be willfully naive - at least for the time being.


95 posted on 01/24/2005 10:08:58 AM PST by NJ_gent (Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.)
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To: sam_paine

So as long as you get what you want, to hell with the bill of rights? You go ahead and sell your soul for a few creature comforts, as for me and mine we'll continue to stand up for freedom.


320 posted on 01/24/2005 11:51:09 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: sam_paine

I have been to the old east Germany. May the chains of oppression that you desire rest lightly upon you and your proginey. They will never rest upon me and mine, with the exception of a post-necrotic state. Whence it matters not


528 posted on 01/24/2005 7:39:33 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: sam_paine

what type of search would you consider unreasonable?

not being sarcastic, but it is hard to argue that this ruling actually increases protection from unreasonable search and seizure.


571 posted on 01/24/2005 10:29:12 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: sam_paine

So we're more free than the most oppressed nations in the world. Yippee. Glad to see that means more to some people than our departure from the principles of liberty that built this country.


633 posted on 01/25/2005 8:08:06 AM PST by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
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To: sam_paine
I can be part of the government if I want to.

You can TRY. But if you think you can get elected without support of moneyed interests...

762 posted on 01/25/2005 1:44:47 PM PST by newzjunkey (Demand Mexico Turnover Fugitive Murderers: http://www.escapingjustice.com)
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To: sam_paine

Every time congress pass a law and the President signs it
someone loses a right. I guess this is alright with you.

As a child I used to hear adults say when they saw something
that they didn't like "there aught to be a law" and now there
are many, many, many laws.

Granted some good but many that just give power to the
government and of course take power away from the average
"Joe".

I am pleased that I am coming to the end of this life, I don't
think I would care to live during the next 40 or 50 years
not to mention beyond. Good luck to you who will.


827 posted on 01/26/2005 9:16:35 PM PST by cleo1939
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To: sam_paine

You are quite uninformed about conditions in Eastern Europe. I was there.

Under Communism, unless you were the sort to complain a lot, you were left alone. You could choose among identical shabby apartments, indifferent doctors, and, as for taxes, Russia's are now lower than our's.

Here, you can choose among doctors that will report you for spanking your kids and for gun ownership. You can choose among indifferent mediocre doctors as long as they are on your HMO's list. And you can overpay for ticky-tacky housing.

Yea, freedom lite. Almost, but not quite, worth defending.

The Stasi never had anything so kewl as Total Information Awareness. They used paper files. If we forced our government to use paper files, we would be more free than we are now.


830 posted on 01/27/2005 4:46:24 AM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite, it's almost worth defending.)
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