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Theories Emerging in NJ Family Murders (Family cousin translator in trial of Lynne Stewart)
ABC News in New Jersey/7online.com ^ | 1/17/05 | Kemberly Richardson

Posted on 01/17/2005 5:37:13 PM PST by Brian Mosely

(Jersey City-WABC, January 17, 2005) — A massive turnout is expected this morning at the funerals of a Jersey City family. The family was found bound, gagged and slashed to death on Friday.

The police are talking about robbery and religious hatred as motives. But ABC News has learned the FBI sees a possible link to a terror trial now underway in New York.

The bodies of Hossam Armanious and his wife and two young daughters will leave from Journal Square for the church at around 10:00 this morning. The coffins will arrive at the church just around 10:30 for the funeral service.

Thousands are expected to attend. And many of those are very fearful because there are no arrests in this case.

There are still several theories on the table as to why all this happened. There is doubt and uncertainty in this close-knit community.

ABC News has learned that the slain family's cousin has been a translator working for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart. She is the radical lawyer accused of smuggling messages from imprisoned Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, to terrorist cell members and associates.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: armanious; christian; coptic; jihadinamerica; koranimals; murder; religionofpieces; terrorismmuslim
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1 posted on 01/17/2005 5:37:16 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely

To me, the hate crime theory seems more plausible. If they were trying to get at the translator (which seems ridiculous to begin with), then they would not kill the cousins.


2 posted on 01/17/2005 5:39:23 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brian Mosely

Boy, I hope my family doesn't get murdered over the activities of my cousins, especially since I don't even know where they live or what they do.


3 posted on 01/17/2005 5:40:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Brian Mosely

Telletubbies killed them, not followers of "Islam the religion of peace TM"


4 posted on 01/17/2005 5:40:42 PM PST by Jmouse007 ("Negotiate and die!" Brought to you by "Islam the Religion of Peace tm")
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To: Brian Mosely

As an ex-spook friend of mine says, if you have to wonder if it's a coincedence, it probably isn't.


5 posted on 01/17/2005 5:42:22 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Dog Gone

You're from the South - you don't know where your wife is or what she does?


6 posted on 01/17/2005 5:43:18 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: jan in Colorado; Fred Nerks; weenie

Though you'd should see this. LOLJ


7 posted on 01/17/2005 5:45:06 PM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Brilliant
Killing the translator does not stop the translation. On the other hand, killing her cousins might well give her pause in the nuances of her translation.

The cops are onto something here. BTW, what's your real name and address? Some people might want to talk to you about why you jumped into this particular thread so quickly with a transparant attempt to discredit the police investigative theory.

If you call the local FBI office, they'll have an investigator in charge all evening, so if you have some information to impart to them, you might give them a call.

8 posted on 01/17/2005 5:47:06 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: Senator Pardek

I didn't marry my cousin, doofus. I married my sister.


9 posted on 01/17/2005 5:48:20 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Bahbah

Here's another story....


10 posted on 01/17/2005 5:48:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Dog Gone

Hahahaha...quick comeback! Touché


11 posted on 01/17/2005 5:49:11 PM PST by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: muawiyah

Why the cousins, though? Why not someone closer? Perhaps because there was no one closer, but it seems unlikely.


12 posted on 01/17/2005 5:50:03 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
To me, the hate crime theory seems more plausible. If they were trying to get at the translator (which seems ridiculous to begin with), then they would not kill the cousins.

First, murder is itself a ridiculous act, so what seems ridiculous to you is irrelevant.

Second, to assume that the purpose was to get to the interpreter is a leap on your part. The father of this family was open and up front about his heritage and views and had drawn the ire of the jihadis. If they were related to someone the jihadis might already be watching it only makes more likely that they could be found by the bad guys.

You're making a causality connection that may obscure a more relevant relationship.

13 posted on 01/17/2005 5:50:40 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: Dog Gone

Good one!! (I think you won!)


14 posted on 01/17/2005 5:51:57 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Brian Mosely

For certain: WE, won't be informed of the true story. It will be a Cover-up. Not, to protect the perp, but to keep us from "feeling animosity" toward the butchering muslims.....


15 posted on 01/17/2005 5:52:52 PM PST by onyx eyes (.... Fly over country.... fly over but dont even think you can make us turn blue....)
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To: Dog Gone
Boy, I hope my family doesn't get murdered over the activities of my cousins, especially since I don't even know where they live or what they do.

Bad news bubba ...... I've been telling people we're related!!!

16 posted on 01/17/2005 5:54:02 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (Redneck from a red city, in a red county, in a red state.)
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To: Phsstpok
Not really. We've had folks who were witnesses in trials in federal court in DC find themselves and their friends turn up as dead bodies somewhere else.

The reason wasn't to stop their testimony, but rather to intimidate the other witnesses.

Intimdating a translator seems to me to be a marvelous ploy on the part of the terrorists.

And, if they kill a loudmouthed Copt to boot, I'm sure that to them it's just gravey!

17 posted on 01/17/2005 5:54:10 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: Brilliant

How similar is the names of the cousin? Could it be mistaken identity.....(Off with tinfoil)


18 posted on 01/17/2005 5:54:10 PM PST by hoosiermama (prayers for all)
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To: Brian Mosely
ABC News has learned that the slain family's cousin has been a translator working for the prosecution in the trial of Lynne Stewart.

CBS news of course has verified that even if this is not true the story's facts are believable. /sarcasm

19 posted on 01/17/2005 5:54:16 PM PST by rocksblues (Sgt. Rafael Peralta, American Hero, Everyone should know his name.)
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To: Brilliant
There is something to this. The muslims on trial lived in the same area in New Jersey as the murdered family. They were the muslims who organized the first WTC bombing. And, thanks to that witch/commie Lynn Stewart they were able to help the next set of terrorists with their plan for 9/11.

This was a message from the terrorists to the ENTIRE Coptic Christian( and ALL Christians, for that matter)... They WILL KILL ANYBODY THEY FEEL LIKE KILLING!! ANYBODY!

20 posted on 01/17/2005 5:54:31 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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