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(NY) City Orders Smokers To Pay Taxes On Cigarettes Bought Online
Newsday ^ | Jan. 13, 2005

Posted on 01/13/2005 7:22:05 AM PST by Wolfie

City orders smokers to pay taxes on cigarettes bought online

NEW YORK (AP) The Finance Department has ordered smokers who bought tax-free cigarettes on the Internet to pay city taxes on their purchases.

The demands were made in letters mailed this week, The Daily News and The New York Post reported in Thursday editions.

"This is the first time we've done this," Finance Commissioner Martha Stark told the News. "It's part of a new, long-term effort to ensure we're enforcing the cigarette tax laws.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: pufflist; smuggling; taxes
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1 posted on 01/13/2005 7:22:06 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Wouldn't this be under a federal jurisdiction? This is a bad idea. I think this would be hard to enforce.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 7:24:28 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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To: Wolfie
How many rights will be violated to find out just who is and who isn't buying cigarettes on line?

Eventually the government ("We the people ...") will get around to classifying most, if not all citizens, criminals.

And the band played on.

3 posted on 01/13/2005 7:25:55 AM PST by ImpBill
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To: Wolfie

LOL... have to find them first


4 posted on 01/13/2005 7:29:25 AM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: GeronL

Finding them doesn't seem to be a problem. They had one woman who got sent a bill for over $900.


5 posted on 01/13/2005 7:30:29 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

Then they must be buying from the wrong place I guess. How did they know who bought what??


6 posted on 01/13/2005 7:32:55 AM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: GeronL
Wrong place indeed:

The city mailed letters to about 2,300 people whose names were obtained from the Web site Cigs4Cheap.com, which is no longer operating, the News said. The letters warned that recipients who failed to pay the back taxes would be penalized up to $200 for every carton purchased online.

7 posted on 01/13/2005 7:34:41 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
The letters warned that recipients who failed to pay the back taxes would be penalized up to $200 for every carton purchased online.

Looks like a pretty good (legal?) extortion scam they've got going there.

Does the tax apply to just pre-rolled smokes, or are bulk tobacco/papers also taxed?

8 posted on 01/13/2005 7:38:27 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: Wolfie

****It's part of a new, long-term effort to ensure we're enforcing the cigarette tax laws.*****

Who are they fooling. They want the revenue.

They raised the taxes till people bucked them now they think this will get them the money.

Close this blackmarket and another will open.

Its all part of a legalised plan to steal form smokers.

The people who passed the tax laws are killing the Golden Goose.


9 posted on 01/13/2005 7:38:41 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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The city mailed letters to about 2,300 people whose names were obtained from the Web site Cigs4Cheap.com, which is no longer operating

Well, I guess that answers that question.

I suppose the online "Privacy Policy" had the usual exceptions for court orders, etc. Anyway, it looks like the City's got about 2,300 people by the b*lls. Better pay up.

In 2002, New York City smokers began paying $1.50 in city tax on a pack of cigarettes _ up from the previous 8 cents a pack. Combined with a state tax increase, the cost of a typical pack of cigarettes in the city jumped to a nation-high $7.50.

Iowa's 30-something-cent tax seems miniscule by comparison.

10 posted on 01/13/2005 7:39:35 AM PST by newgeezer (Supply ALWAYS finds a way to meet demand. Until demand is reduced, the WoD is doomed to failure.)
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To: Wolfie

My co workers orders his cigs from europe.


11 posted on 01/13/2005 7:41:40 AM PST by BrooklynGOP (www.logicandsanity.com)
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To: Wolfie

now we know why its no longer operating, the customers no longer trust it


12 posted on 01/13/2005 7:41:52 AM PST by GeronL (I am NOT the real bin Laden)
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To: Wolfie; Just another Joe; SheLion; Mears; metesky; Madame Dufarge; qam1; appalachian_dweller; ...

here we go again.........

Did these brilliant financial wizards ever think of the consequences of raising the taxes so far out of line with reality? Of course not.

Sigh...........


13 posted on 01/13/2005 7:43:03 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Wolfie

Didn't Congress ban Internet sales taxes?


14 posted on 01/13/2005 7:43:34 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Wolfie

Politician's addicted to cigarette tax.


15 posted on 01/13/2005 7:44:22 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: BrooklynGOP

NY sued and won, a multi-million dollar judgement against one of the European online cigs place.


16 posted on 01/13/2005 7:44:26 AM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: GeronL

hmmmm, I think I have a new business idea.


17 posted on 01/13/2005 7:44:37 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: Wolfie; Gabz

First step towards more regulation of the internet, too. Lovely.

Thanks for the ping, Gabz. Good morning!


18 posted on 01/13/2005 7:51:33 AM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: Gabz

What is truly amazing is that we have a product that is legal in all 50 states, grown and produced in a dozen of them, warehoused and distbriuted nationdwide by 100,000 of thousands of merchants, and yet the Goverment of NY is so opressive that there is still a huge trade in smuggling it. Bizarre!


19 posted on 01/13/2005 7:54:05 AM PST by azcap
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To: Wolfie

That's why you only buy cigs from Native Americans.


20 posted on 01/13/2005 7:55:25 AM PST by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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