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Catch them...if they can(ILLEGAL ALIENS/IMMIGRANTS who have disobeyed orders to leave the country)
pittsburglive.com ^ | 01/03/2005 | Mary Beth Sheridan

Posted on 01/02/2005 9:53:53 PM PST by nanak

WASHINGTON -- The rendezvous was in front of Shoe City. In the frosty darkness, four Homeland Security officers strapped bulletproof vests over their sweatshirts and fingered their pistols. It was 5 a.m., and the voice of their supervisor, Raymond Smith, sliced through the silence in the parking lot of a suburban Maryland shopping center.

"Take a look at this," Smith said. He passed around a folder on their first target, a 25-year-old West African. The immigrant had been ordered deported in 2003, but never left the United States. Now, he was living in a Hyattsville, Md., apartment -- or so Smith hoped.

"We've got a 50-50 chance of getting him," he said.

Smith is part of an effort to track down 370,000 "absconders" -- illegal immigrants who have disobeyed orders to leave the country. As part of a get-tough approach after the Sept. 11 attacks, the Homeland Security Department has deployed 18 fugitive squads to catch these immigrants, including a team in Maryland.

A morning with Smith's team shows how difficult it is to find the absconders, part of a rising tide of illegal immigration. The fugitive squads ...

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aliens; dhs; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigration; immigrationlist
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1 posted on 01/02/2005 9:53:54 PM PST by nanak
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To: nanak

370,000 divided by 18 equals 20,555 illegals per squad.
Good luck!!


2 posted on 01/02/2005 9:59:41 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: 1FreeAmerican
Looks like it's time for another Operation Wetback.
3 posted on 01/02/2005 10:02:56 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

They REALLY want to catch them too!!:)


4 posted on 01/02/2005 10:14:17 PM PST by international american ((Pray for the millions of lives disrupted by tsunami.))
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To: nanak
For years, the absconders knew immigration agents were too busy to turn up at their doors.

That is now changing, as was evident as Smith's team cruised down the road on a recent night.

There are only a few posts on this thread so far, but I find it comical that even when Dubya is doing something about illegal immigration he gets no support from the Old Right.

sigh

Well he didn't need their votes in 2000 or 2004, he sure the hell doesn't need to consider their vote now.

5 posted on 01/02/2005 10:57:07 PM PST by Once-Ler (My name is Once-Ler, King of Kings. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and dispair!)
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To: nanak

There will be a meeting for WakeUpAmericaFoundation.com at the Plaza Hotel Triple Crown Room on January 11th. in Las Vegas Nevada. Terry ANderson is the speaker. Also other radio notables will be present.

One of the things being discussed is a massive ANti-Illegal Alien rally planned for May..date not yet finalized. The idea is for notables to attend the rally that we hope will not only actually get publicity for the issue, but will give the people a place to vent to their politicians, etc. Please plan on joining us if you can!

I'll post particulars when they're available. In the meantime, if you have access to a notable, make them aware and encourage them to attend the May Rally. Enough is enough.


6 posted on 01/02/2005 11:29:16 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Once-Ler
but I find it comical that even when Dubya is doing something about illegal immigration he gets no support from the Old Right

I think taking this action is wonderful, but you gotta admit . . . 20,555 per team? Even if they captured ten absconders per day, seven days a week, it would take over five years to get just the lawbreakers on today's list. It's much better than nothing, though! I pray the U.S. doesn't grant any type of amnesty or pseudo-amnesty to illegal aliens.

7 posted on 01/02/2005 11:40:37 PM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: FoxInSocks
I think taking this action is wonderful, but you gotta admit . . . 20,555 per team? Even if they captured ten absconders per day, seven days a week, it would take over five years to get just the lawbreakers on today's list.

The article says they capture 35 a day on average. In the first seven months of fiscal 2004, they apprehended 7,239 absconders, twice as many as in the same period a year earlier.

I'll admit more needs to be done. The Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 is another step in the right direction.

It's much better than nothing, though! I pray the U.S. doesn't grant any type of amnesty or pseudo-amnesty to illegal aliens.

I pray we do grant working illegals amnesty. I figure we are talking to the same God. My prayers are motivated by love and hope for America. Not a desire to destroy America as many PaleoCons insinuate. Unfortunately I have not been able to convince them of the righteousness of my opinion.

8 posted on 01/02/2005 11:58:04 PM PST by Once-Ler (My name is Once-Ler, King of Kings. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and dispair!)
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To: Once-Ler
The article says they capture 35 a day on average

I swear, the one time I don't read the whole article before posting . . . thanks for pointing that out.

I also read they're drawing up plans for 30 more teams and that every day 70 more immigrants fail to leave as ordered.

9 posted on 01/03/2005 12:26:50 AM PST by FoxInSocks
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To: nanak

When you read the whole article it paints a different picture. The absconder program was proposed in Dec 2001 they had a list of 6000 priority middle east/muslim targets. By early 2003 38% of the cases were resolved. The actual number expelled is probably much higher since many of them left and forgot to say goodbye. A year later in the first 7 months of 04 they doubled the number of arrest that they made in the first 7 months of 03. That is not bad progress for a few years. Going from plans to implementation and limited resources. The administration has assessed the progress and allocated more resources. They currently have 18 teams and now they are drawing up plans for 30 more.

Would I like it to be faster? Sure, but my question is why did it take 911 to do anything about this? Why didn't Clinton, or Bush41, or Reagan do anything about it?


10 posted on 01/03/2005 1:33:15 AM PST by Once-Ler (My name is Once-Ler, King of Kings. Look on my works, ye Mighty, and dispair!)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Did you hear a woman from Arizona on Terry Anderson last night? She says the governor has issued orders (can't find on her web page) that they will accept "testimony" by swearing from "immigrants" that they are US citizens if they don't have ID to prove it.


11 posted on 01/03/2005 8:44:03 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: 1FreeAmerican; All

Here's just one example of an illegal who ignored deportation orders.
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Illegal Accused Of Murdering
Nun Had Deportation Orders
By Jim Lynch
The Oregonian
9-6-2

The man indicted Thursday in Klamath Falls on charges of raping and killing a nun was apprehended in the Portland railroad yards in 1992 by a federal immigration official who made him promise to leave the country.
 
The Immigration and Naturalization Service agent who arrested Maximiliano Silerio Esparza on Oct. 21, 1992, apparently was unaware that Esparza wasn't just another undocumented immigrant. Esparza had been in a California prison earlier that year and had already received formal deportation orders from an Arizona immigration judge.
 
Esparza was asked to sign an I-210, a form that is part of the INS' most casual deportation program, which some INS agents derisively call "catch-and-release." The document made him acknowledge he was in the United States illegally and promise to leave shortly, according to an internal INS record of the incident obtained by The Oregonian.
 
A month later, Portland police arrested Esparza on suspicion of selling cocaine in Old Town. But again Esparza was released -- this time after one night in jail. Esparza was later indicted on the drug charges but never showed up at court in January 1993. He has had a warrant out for his arrest ever since.
 
Ed Sale, spokesman for the INS Portland District, said he couldn't comment on any of the agency's encounters with Esparza. He said the INS relies on police to inform it when a potentially illegal immigrant has been arrested. He also said the agency's 1992 encounter with Esparza in Portland may have been handled by the U.S. Border Patrol, which is part of INS but not directly overseen by the Portland office.
 
Esparza was indicted by a Klamath Falls grand jury Thursday on 11 counts, including aggravated murder, rape and sodomy. Police say Esparza rode a train from Portland to Klamath Falls last weekend before visiting a strip bar and then attacking two nuns early Sunday morning while they were praying on a downtown bike path.
 
Authorities say he head-butted one of the nuns, then proceeded to rape them both while controlling them with the rosary beads around their necks. Helen Chaska -- who went by the name Sister Helena Maria -- died in the attack, strangled by her own beads, according to an autopsy report.
 
Klamath County Prosecutor Ed Caleb is seeking the death penalty for Esparza. He said he is putting two staff investigators on the case full time to try to piece together Esparza's past. Investigators, Caleb said, are looking into as many as nine different aliases Esparza has used.
 
Esparza's 1992 record shows:
 
He was released from a California prison under the alias Martin Martinez on Jan. 15 after serving three years for robbery and kidnapping. He was supposed to be deported by the INS at that time, but it's not clear whether he ever was. Immigration records, however, show that he was ordered deported on Jan. 31 in Florence, Ariz. -- but this time under the alias Victor Batres-Martinez.
 
When he was picked up by the INS and Portland police later that year, he went by Maximiliano Silerio Esparza, which is the same name under which he is being held in Klamath Falls. It also happens to be the name of the governor of the northern Mexican state of Durango from 1989 to 1998.
 
The Oregonian has learned that Klamath County investigators suspect Esparza used other aliases over the years, including Mateo Jimenez, Manuel Martinez Martinez, Victor Martinez Guerrero and Jose Garcia Perez.
 
When Esparza was apprehended by the INS in Portland in October 1992, he said he entered the United States in September 1985 through the U.S. border town of San Ysidro, south of San Diego, according to the incident document. snip----


12 posted on 01/03/2005 8:57:08 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Texas_Jarhead; Spok; Voice in your head; dirtboy; Jay777; fastattacksailor; Jasper; Uncle Vlad; ...

Please let me know if you want off this illegal immigration ping list.
Thanks!

Other conservative voices speaking out:


Malkin: Activists smear anyone who wants better borders
On News/Activism 12/03/2004 5:11:21 AM PST · 45 replies · 877+ views
Manchester Union Leader ^ | 12/3/2004 | Michelle Malkin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293482/posts





America's Immigration Problem (PLUS, corruption in UNITED STATES BUREAUCRACY)
Accuracy in Media ^ | 01/03/2005 | Cliff Kincaid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1312754/posts?page=1


Immigration: The New Third Rail
On News/Activism 11/09/2004 3:44:38 AM PST · 85 replies · 917+ views
frontpagemagazine.com ^ | November 9, 2004 | Michael Reagan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1275171/posts
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Connect the dots, now (secure the borders)
On News/Activism 11/20/2004 4:33:43 PM PST ·
The Washington Times ^ | November 20, 2004 | Terence P. Jeffrey
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1284939/posts



A Ticking Time Bomb: Diseases that Cross American Borders
RUTHERFORD INSTITUTE.COM ^ | DECEMBER 13, 2004 | JOHN W. WHITEHEAD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302149/posts



Illegalize illegals: Time for showdown in open frontier
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | Dec 15, 2004 | William F. Buckley Jr.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1302935/posts


Border Security Can't Be Ignored
On News/Activism 12/03/2004 4:00:56 AM PST ·
front page ^ | 12-03-04 | Bobby Eberle
Border Security Can't Be Ignored By Bobby Eberle GOPUSA.com |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293459/posts


13 posted on 01/03/2005 11:12:35 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Current POLL~~!!!!
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


What do you believe should be the top priority for Congress this year?

Immigration reform 30% 741 votes

Social Security reform 4% 90 votes

Trade/outsourcing 36% 882 votes

Federal deficit 31% 753 votes

Total: 2466 votes


14 posted on 01/03/2005 7:43:12 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: 1FreeAmerican

Public bounties would do wonders - in apprehensions and deportations.


15 posted on 01/03/2005 7:55:14 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: JustAnotherSavage

IMO, the good folks of AZ should hang him by his feet and beat him like a pinata.


16 posted on 01/03/2005 7:59:22 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Once-Ler

Unfortunately I have not been able to convince them of the righteousness of my opinion.


Maybe your opinion is not so righteous....


17 posted on 01/03/2005 8:10:36 PM PST by rolling_stone
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Maybe your opinion is not so righteous....

Then I am in the company of many.

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. - Matthew 7:14

18 posted on 01/03/2005 11:35:43 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: Once-Ler

What does your Bible quote have to do with illegal aliens?


19 posted on 01/03/2005 11:52:10 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Once-Ler
The article says they capture 35 a day on average. In the first seven months of fiscal 2004, they apprehended 7,239 absconders, twice as many as in the same period a year earlier.
I'll admit more needs to be done. The Intelligence Reform Act of 2004 is another step in the right direction...
I pray we do grant working illegals amnesty,...

Why do you suggest that the work of these DHS squads is an improvement, if you really want illegals with jobs to stay and get amnesty? The particular illegal being chased by DHS in this article had a job. Don't you want, pray, that he would be left alone and get amnesty? Why do you support his roundup and pray for his amnesty, all in the same post?

Good though that your thinking is clearer on the term Amnesty, and that you're calling it by its name and not by some dishonest Bushism like "temporary worker program".

20 posted on 01/03/2005 11:56:43 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vincente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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