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Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?
1 posted on 12/29/2004 6:40:54 AM PST by seppel
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Third post is a charm!
2 posted on 12/29/2004 6:43:30 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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Watching out for the Posting Police!


3 posted on 12/29/2004 6:43:45 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish. / pay no attention to the primedial newscasts)
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Hillary might want to run for New York's Governor in 2006 to gain some state executive experience and then run for President in 2008. If Pataki retires, I think the state mansion in Albany is hers. And Eliot Spitzer can be persuaded to switch and run for her seat in the Senate, which he will win.


4 posted on 12/29/2004 6:44:00 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Full of himself and trying to maintain his importance. He goes with the wind and tries to guess for the most part. Typical poll following liberal.


5 posted on 12/29/2004 6:44:12 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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actually Hitlery is already trying to be manipulative and make herself look more conservative then she really is. She's already started playing the game.
I think it will be very hard for her to win in 2008. We just saw how this country turned out for Bush mostly for moral beliefs. If she doesnt turn against abortion and homosexual unions, then I think she has no chance.


6 posted on 12/29/2004 6:45:29 AM PST by theconservativerepublican (www.theconservativerepublican.com)
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Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

let's not beat around the Bush here, George W. Bush, despite the 3 million vote advantage was beatable this year, if just under 60k Ohioan votes had gone sKerry's way he would've been president. That is a scary thought if there ever was one. There is no doubt that many women admire Hillary, for some reason or another. Not because they like her politics but because she is... Hillary.

But don't underestimate the opposition to her either, she starts out with a negative 40% that will never in a gazillion years vote for her. So she will need a lopsided advantage amongst undecideds. Hillary will run and the DNC might just as well dispense with primaries the Hildabeast will simply not allow opposition. Run against her at your own peril. But with dr. Rice up against her, that's where I say: landslide! And it ain't going Hitlary's way.

8 posted on 12/29/2004 6:46:38 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm John Kerry and I approve this message. No I don't. Yes I do. No I don't. Yes I do. Maybe, not.)
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Get ready for the Pissed Off Bimbos For Truth and their remarkable TV ads.


11 posted on 12/29/2004 6:46:50 AM PST by Nick Danger (Now with Kung-Fu death grip)
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GEORGE W. BUSH IS MOST ADMIRED MAN IN 2004 (AHHHHHHHH! HILLARY IS MOST ADMIRED WOMAN!)
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The naysayers who think Hillary won't be formidable in '08 are fooling themselves. She has spent the last 4 years remaking her image, and she will continue to do so.

Pubbies need to be grooming a superstar now to face her. Otherwise, she will be electable in '08. If you thought the msm covered over Kerry's errs and ills, just wait until you see them remake Hillary into St. Hillary of Ark.

12 posted on 12/29/2004 6:46:59 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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Only if the republicans nominate some worthless rino like Romney or Powell or McLunatic, or a host of others.

A real conservative will annihilate her heinous.


13 posted on 12/29/2004 6:47:49 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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what an clymer


16 posted on 12/29/2004 6:51:21 AM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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If Republicans ran McCain I would just stay home.


17 posted on 12/29/2004 6:52:19 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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Dick Morris, though i like the man.. Has his face seriously planted up Hillary's Butt... This guy, whatever chance he gets talks about her.

I think he has some secret fetish or something.


19 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:15 AM PST by Next_Time_NJ (NJ demorat exterminator)
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Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

I think Dick hasn't tabulated all those that would "drop off" too.

20 posted on 12/29/2004 6:53:17 AM PST by Fruitbat
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We must remember that Bill never got a majority of the vote and only one due to third party politics, else he never would have been president. Hillary's success is directly hinged to that of Bill. So many people are sick and tired of even hearing about Bill and many former supporters have such enormous hangovers that I don't think they could bring themselves to go vote.

I think that the turnout for the dims with Hillary in there would drop substantially.


23 posted on 12/29/2004 6:55:59 AM PST by Fruitbat
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It would be a disasterous mistake for the reps not to take Hillary seriously and run an ideologue.


24 posted on 12/29/2004 6:55:59 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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Hillary should not be underestimated. The Republicans biggest problem with respect to the Clintons has always been that we have underestimated their strengths because we have been blinded by our own dislike of them.

There can be no doubt that this dislike is well founded. However, the best way to defeat a foe is to understand him (or, in this case...her).

We must understand and appreciate that she has an ability to reach out beyond the liberal base. She is a Methodist...and will do a better job than Kerry in talking about faith.

Further, she has positioned herself as a hawk on military and national defense issues.

There are a whole host of issues relating to the Clinton years that will be revisited. However, I am not certain that these issues will have much impact.

Realistically, her greatest weaknesses are those weaknesses afflicting the Democrats as a party -- values, Hollywood, Red v. Blue, etc.

However, I fully predict that she will have her own Sister Solijah moment (taking from her husband's playbook) in which she denounces the excesses of the Hollywood left. While some in Hollywood might scoff at this...chances are that they will play along with the game.


26 posted on 12/29/2004 6:56:33 AM PST by rowhey
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I agree with Morris' conclusion, not his logic. He says:

"Rice is the only person who can stop Hillary Clinton from being president."

That has got to be the most absurd comment of the year. Rice is not going to be a factor in the race at all.

On the other hand, I think Hillary can win, and unlike Morris, I have a plausible reason why. It's because she has to do only one thing differently from Gore and Kerry: She's gotta win Florida.

And that is doable, if she demogogues social security and medicare. She's also got to win Kerry's Blue States, but that is also very doable. She's a shoo-in in all the states that Kerry won except Oregon, Minn., Wis., and perhaps Michigan, but even those states are not tough states for her. The GOP has no one on the horizon who could easily defeat her in any of those Blue States, with the possible exception of Guiliani, and as Morris says, Guiliani won't get the GOP nomination.


31 posted on 12/29/2004 7:02:32 AM PST by Brilliant
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Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

He thought that way ahead of time and subsequently said that she *wouldn't* run. And listed reasons why.

Despite the fact that I think that Dick Morris is an amoral toad, his skills as a political analyst are exceptional.

His post, in this case, misses the fact that Hillary's high negatives are fixed in stone and that she would energize the opposition ten times as much as Kerry/Edwards did.

He agrees with me in placing a Condi Rice run for the Presidency in 2008 in the "Hillary Clinton's Recurring Nightmare" box.

I'd love to see that happen.

She's black, genuinely brilliant [as opposed to HC's sycophantic-media-designated-faux-super-intellectual status] and doesn't take crap from ANYONE.

41 posted on 12/29/2004 7:14:33 AM PST by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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HILLARY PRESIDENT?


48 posted on 12/29/2004 7:26:59 AM PST by JOE6PAK (...diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

So many people have counted Clintons out at one time or another with great confidence. They were nearly always wrong.
49 posted on 12/29/2004 7:27:02 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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