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To: seppel
Dick Morris thought Hillary would run 2004 and could beat Bush. What do you guys think about this?

let's not beat around the Bush here, George W. Bush, despite the 3 million vote advantage was beatable this year, if just under 60k Ohioan votes had gone sKerry's way he would've been president. That is a scary thought if there ever was one. There is no doubt that many women admire Hillary, for some reason or another. Not because they like her politics but because she is... Hillary.

But don't underestimate the opposition to her either, she starts out with a negative 40% that will never in a gazillion years vote for her. So she will need a lopsided advantage amongst undecideds. Hillary will run and the DNC might just as well dispense with primaries the Hildabeast will simply not allow opposition. Run against her at your own peril. But with dr. Rice up against her, that's where I say: landslide! And it ain't going Hitlary's way.

8 posted on 12/29/2004 6:46:38 AM PST by William of Orange (I'm John Kerry and I approve this message. No I don't. Yes I do. No I don't. Yes I do. Maybe, not.)
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To: William of Orange; theconservativerepublican; the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Hillary has already begun positioning herself to the right of Bush on illegal immigration. That puts the Southwest seriously in play. No, I'd says she carries it easy.

IMHOP, what gives the Democrats a strong advantage in 2008 is their having learnt their lesson. NAFTA and free trade were tickets to nowhere. The crowning legislative victory of Clinton's first term cost him the House and the Senate because it betrayed the Democratic blue collar voter, who since votes GOP on cultural values and patriotism. The only weapon the Democrats have against "moral values" is being the party that looks out for Joe Sixpack and letting the investment bankers define Kerry's limp positions on NAFTA, outsourcing, and free trade cost him the election (I think Gephardt could have beaten Bush.).


34 posted on 12/29/2004 7:07:23 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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To: William of Orange

I agree with everything you said. I just hope the Pubbies now this as well. I'm sure Karl does.


56 posted on 12/29/2004 8:01:57 AM PST by mlbford2 ("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
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