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Turkish FM stands firm over EU bid
Turkish Press website ^ | Dec 10 2004 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 12/12/2004 9:17:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Barroso told Erdogan that "if and when the negotiation with Turkey will be opened it will be a negotation between Turkey and the EU, and it (is) clear that the EU (is) an entity of 25 member states" -- a clear reference to the fact that Turkey must formally recognize all EU countries including Cyprus... "Mr. Erdogan rejected the appeal by (European Commission chief Jose Manuel) Barroso concerning the recognition of the Republic of Cyprus by Turkey," said a Turkish diplomat. "They are not deserving that after rejecting the Annan plan," he said, in reference to proposals by UN chief Kofi Annan to re-unite the island which were rejected by a referendum in the Greek-run south of the island... Erdogan meanwhile reiterated Ankara's demand that it be offered the prospect nothing but full membership. Some EU states are suggesting that Turkey should be offered a "privileged partnership" instead.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Israel; Russia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion; turkey
Turkish PM rejects EU appeal over Cyprus
Turkish Press website
Agence France Presse
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan rejected Friday an EU appeal to recognize Cyprus, ahead of a summit next week due to decide whether Ankara can start EU entry talks, a Turkish diplomat said... A short time earlier Erdogan reiterated his opposition to any new conditions to Ankara's bid to join the EU, ahead of a crunch summit on the issue next week. "We don't want to be faced with extra criteria which do not already exist in the Copenhagen criteria," he said, referring to the political standards which the EU expects all member states to adhere to. "The game has already begun, there should be no new rules," he said after talks with Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt... Erdogan... reiterated Ankara's demand that it be offered the prospect nothing but full membership. Some EU states are suggesting that Turkey should be offered a "privileged partnership" instead.
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1 posted on 12/12/2004 9:17:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Maybe the Turks will become the Ottoman Empire again and wipe out the EU for us......


Hey I can wishfully think right?


2 posted on 12/12/2004 9:19:51 PM PST by MikefromOhio (27 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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more EU topics:
3 posted on 12/12/2004 9:20:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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a few more, with some duplication, from my links page:
4 posted on 12/12/2004 9:29:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: MikeinIraq

Do you think that they would be satisfied. Taking over the EU would just whet their appetite. They'd come after us, eventually.


5 posted on 12/12/2004 9:41:04 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess

the turks wouldnt mess with us....

they could only get us if we let our naval forces get run down anyway...


6 posted on 12/12/2004 9:42:40 PM PST by MikefromOhio (27 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: MikeinIraq
the turks wouldnt mess with us....

they could only get us if we let our naval forces get run down anyway...

There are plenty of flaky Islamists in Turkey. The military is the guardian of Ataturk's legacy but if they lose control or the Islamists take them over.... I'm thinking of a multi-national Islamic alliance against the West or simply the continued spread of terrorism.

7 posted on 12/12/2004 10:05:35 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess

The Islamocrats have a better than 2/3rds majority in the Turkish gov't, they can amend the Turkish constitution to remove the legality of the military's role in maintaining a secular gov't.


8 posted on 12/13/2004 6:37:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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"Tall cold glass of reality thrown right in the face" ping, or perhaps "naked fear / pee-pants" ping.
German Socialists have hard words for Turkey
by Honor Mahony
March 21 2005
A leading Socialist MEP has warned that without further reform by Turkey and legal recognition by Ankara of Cyprus, there will be no opening of EU talks later this year.,, The German MEP also said that recent events in Turkey were a "cause for worry" citing the brutal crackdown by police earlier this month against demonstrators ahead of international women's day and then the harsh reaction by Ankara to EU criticism of the event... His words are especially remarkable as, to date, Socialist politicians, particularly from Germany, have been strong supporters of Turkey's entry into the European Union.
It was the Greek population, led by Makarios, who rejected (in the early 1960s) power-sharing (which is part of what socialists like to call "diversity"). In 2004, the Greek Cypriotes rejected the negotiated settlement of all issues at the ballot box. Cyprus is divided, has been for over thirty years. Saying it has to be unified is no different -- no different -- than saying Hispaniola has to be.

Of course, these German Socialists will back down on this, or risk splitting the gov't, a no-confidence vote, and a tumble from power. Or, the rest of the ruling coalition will see it the same way, and block Turkey from joining.
Chirac points to third way on Turkey
by Honor Mahony
Nov 11 2004
Speaking on Sunday in Marseilles, Mr Chirac said, "Either it works and Turkey joins with all our values. This will take 10 to 15 years" or on the other hand, he said "... Turkey cannot or will not make the necessary effort, then we will stop. There is a third hypothesis that in three to four years, things have progressed but there are still obstacles that we will not surmount. We will therefore need to find another solution, to create a sufficiently strong link for our ambitions for peace and co-operation but without integration into the EU", said the French President... Countries such as Austria and the Netherlands may favour moves in this direction. Mr Chirac's words are intended as a reassurance to French citizens - a majority of whom have doubts about Turkey joining the bloc.
That one is a "baffle them with BS" ping. The harder the US presses on Turkey into the EU, the more obvious it is that Europe is no ally of Ankara. The question becomes, will Turkey then turn to its not too neighborly neighbors? Or to its brutally repressed ethnic groups, at least one of which (the Kurds) wants an independent homeland? The French et al helped keep Turkey from helping the US with the liberation of Iraq, by dangling the prospect of EU membership (yet again) if it didn't help, and the prospect of outright rejection if it did. Talk about hitching your wagon to a star...

9 posted on 03/21/2005 8:28:16 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, March 13, 2005.)
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