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Bill proposes nearly doubling Border Patrol agents
modbee ^ | 12-7-04

Posted on 12/07/2004 3:56:25 PM PST by LouAvul

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. House intelligence bill negotiated Tuesday would double the number of border agents and substantially increase the size of immigrant detention facilities over the next five years.

House and Senate conferees broke a stalemate over legislation containing recommendations from the 9/11 Commission, and final congressional votes could come as early as Wednesday. President Bush pushed for passage in recent days, but debate over authority of a new national intelligence director and proposed immigration restrictions threatened to kill it.

Although some say the bill doesn't go far enough to restrict immigration, it authorizes the number of Border Patrol agents to grow by 10,000 and the number of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents by 7,500 by 2010. There are currently 11,200 Border Patrol agents and 5,500 ICE agents.

The bill also proposes 4,000 more beds by 2010 for detaining immigrants, up from about 21,000.

There also are other immigration measures in the bill, such as requiring a plan for remote-controlled aircraft for border surveillance, strengthening visa requirements and increasing penalties for smuggling of illegal immigrants.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bice; borderpatrol; dhs; drones; gop; homelamdsecurity; immigrantlist; immigration; intelligencebill; intelligencereform
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And, start fining the companies that employ these criminals. I don't care if it's aunt Sue who simply has an illegal/criminal gardner/maid. Fine her, hard.

And it it's a corporation, sock it to them. And if they repeat the crime, confiscate the business and sell it at auction to a true American.

It's past time to get serious.

1 posted on 12/07/2004 3:56:26 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

And allow the freaking local law enforcement to do their job... And enforce the law.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 4:00:18 PM PST by TFine80
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


3 posted on 12/07/2004 4:01:38 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: LouAvul
Sherriff Joe Arpiao of Maricopa Co., AZ has demonstrated the constitutionality of "tent city" prisons against a number of challenges.
They can be built in weeks.
No arrested illegal should ever again be released on bail or simply because there is no one with the time to process them.
They should all be held without bail as flight risks until their claims can be adjudicated and the deserving few admitted and the rest deported.

SO9

4 posted on 12/07/2004 4:03:06 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: LouAvul

By the time these bills go into effect we could be NUKED into vapor. We NEED HELP NOW, not in 2 or 3 years.


5 posted on 12/07/2004 4:04:09 PM PST by Uncle George
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To: LouAvul

Here's a wild idea. Illegals are coming here looking for work right? Give them all a masons trowel and let them earn a decent living building a verrrrrrrry long wall out of cement block. Not only do they get paid training in a building trade but we get a wall.

Gotta be a helluva lot cheaper than hiring another 10,000 guys to sit out in the desert.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 4:05:42 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: LouAvul

bump


7 posted on 12/07/2004 4:06:10 PM PST by blackeagle
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To: LouAvul
And, start fining the companies that employ these criminals. I don't care if it's aunt Sue who simply has an illegal/criminal gardner/maid. Fine her, hard. And it it's a corporation, sock it to them. And if they repeat the crime, confiscate the business and sell it at auction to a true American.

Yes, but that would mean ending the employers geedy gravy train.

8 posted on 12/07/2004 4:06:44 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: LouAvul

I've been watching CSpan all day. The fight over this intelligence bill is amazing. There are some great guys who fought for those protections, and will continue to do so. Funny, though the only speakers for the final version that was pushed by Pres. Bush were...all democrats, Pelosi, Harmon, Sheila Jackson Lee, Bob Menendez..... They mostly praised him. I guess he does know how to reach across the isle, even if he has to destroy his own party doing it.


9 posted on 12/07/2004 4:07:02 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: TFine80

That is just it, we can hire a whole bunch of people, spend a whole bunch of money paying them, but we have to let them do their jobs. I hear moral is pretty low with border agents at this point and time because their hands are tied.


10 posted on 12/07/2004 4:08:04 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: LouAvul

Doubled? Wow.

That means there'll be twice as many agents as there are now with their hands tied and restricted from doing their jobs.


11 posted on 12/07/2004 4:09:33 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (Name a shrub after me - something prickly and hard to eradicate.)
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To: LouAvul

This would bring the Border Patrol to 21,000 agents by 2010. That could actually equate to a reasonably fair fight on our borders.


12 posted on 12/07/2004 4:11:52 PM PST by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: Normal4me; Carry_Okie; farmfriend; sauropod; Issaquahking; B4Ranch

One of the provisions that the Senate refused to allow (several congressmen stated in the debate it was because of the Illegal Alien lobbies) was a 3 and half foot completion of a border fence near San Diego that has been stopped by the Enviro lobby because of some bird. Part of the Senate conferees stopped that quick. That stretch of land is like it's been run with herds of cattle so many cross there.


13 posted on 12/07/2004 4:12:08 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: LouAvul
The blame for the illegals can be spread a mile wide.

Blame the politicians who give them tons of free stuff billable to the taxpayer, the schools who don't require citizenship for attendance, the banks that don't require citizenship for loans, the businesses big and small that employ them without requiring citizenship, your conservative friends who rant about illegals out of one side of their mouths and hire landscapers or pool builders who employ illegals out of the other side, and the liberals who decry the exploitation of illegals out of one side of their mouth and encourage more illegal immigration out of the other side (thereby guaranteeing that even more illegals to be exploited).

It is impossible at this point to deport them, but it is very possible to cut off the spigot of benefits. But no one has the balls or the integrity to do it.

14 posted on 12/07/2004 4:14:01 PM PST by Lizavetta (Modern liberalism: Where everyone must look different but think the same.)
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To: LouAvul
This is the Bush equivalent of Clinton's 100,000 Cops pledge, and we all know how well that worked out...

Sorry George, you really fornicated the pooch on this one.

15 posted on 12/07/2004 4:14:04 PM PST by AreaMan
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To: LouAvul
The whole problem with this minimal step at stopping illegal immigration and I do mean minimal, is that neither side is really for it. The rats don't want it and GW won't endorse it the way he should, so people like us who care about the welfare of the country and want to see terrorist free borders get the shaft.
16 posted on 12/07/2004 4:14:57 PM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: AuntB
Funny, though the only speakers for the final version that was pushed by Pres. Bush were...all democrats, Pelosi, Harmon, Sheila Jackson Lee, Bob Menendez..... They mostly praised him. I guess he does know how to reach across the isle, even if he has to destroy his own party doing it.

Buchanan said it long ago.

"The differences between the two beltway parties are inconsequential".

17 posted on 12/07/2004 4:15:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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I hear moral is pretty low with border agents at this point and time because their hands are tied.

I have a good LEO friend with whom I was talking about this very issue. He said (this is Kalifornia) that they used to arrest illegals, but that they were required by federal law to turn them over to INS. But INS would simply release them. Now local LEO doesn't bother with illegals/criminals because INS claims jurisdiction.

It's going to explode, guaranteed. These illegals/criminals are killing cops, building gangs, destroying America, and there is going to be such a backlash it won't be believed.

We're tired of it. Kalifornia, Nashville, Indianapolis, we're tired of it.

18 posted on 12/07/2004 4:15:55 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Servant of the 9
Stop trying to interject common sense into a massive federal bureaucracy.
19 posted on 12/07/2004 4:16:13 PM PST by rodguy911 ( President Reagan---all the rest.)
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To: LouAvul
The U.S. House intelligence bill negotiated Tuesday would double the number of border agents and substantially increase the size of immigrant detention facilities over the next five years.

A down payment, nothing more.

And, start fining the companies that employ these criminals. I don't care if it's aunt Sue who simply has an illegal/criminal gardner/maid. Fine her, hard.

We have those laws on the books. Unfortunately, juries are unwilling to convict.

20 posted on 12/07/2004 4:17:19 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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