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Winning over the Hillary haters
Financial Review ^ | Dec 7, 2004 | Raymond Hernandez

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:29:20 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
In a race for the US presidency, Hillary Rodham Clinton faces a problem that has dogged her since her days as first lady: an entrenched bloc of voters who simply do not like her.

I have disliked her since day one. Hillary is the absolute, perfect personification of evil and the antithesis of everything that defines our precious country.

IMHO, she and her husband may well be the Anti-Christ.

Those who wish her to be POTUS are mentally weak and easily lead.

41 posted on 12/06/2004 10:07:46 AM PST by upchuck (My "just in time" supply chain for taglines is busted. Come back tomorrow.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
No one factor accounts for the deep misgivings many voters express for Clinton, but to some degree it stems from a view that has taken hold, fairly or not, that she is a hugely ambitious woman with a liberal agenda that was most significantly illustrated in her efforts to overhaul the nation's health-care system during her husband's presidency.

Well, yes, no kidding. Here we had an unelected, self-proclaimed "co-president" and these folks wonder why people regard her as ambitious? Meeting in secret with a hundred or so equally unelected "experts" to take effective control over the entire healthcare industry nationwide, top to bottom? This doesn't bother people? Good grief!

My beef with Hillary is that she doesn't seem to have discarded the socialistic leanings of her college years, and that placing her in a position to attempt wide-scale social engineering and put catastrophic redistributive economic policies in place would be a political disaster. Nor is it simply a matter of differing economic and social opinion - I do not think that a woman capable of torturing and crushing Billy Dale and of expropriating a thousand highly confidential FBI files for political blackmail (which was subsequently done ruthlessly in at least the cases of Hyde and Gingrich) is someone respectful enough of the powers of the office or responsible enough for their proper restraint. She isn't up to it, and "I want it" simply isn't sufficient reason for giving it to her.

42 posted on 12/06/2004 10:08:10 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Look, Hillary is not going to be elected president. She is a senator, and only three people have ever been elected directly from the senate(or the congress as a whole) to the white house - and they all died in office.

Next, the conventional wisdom, at this point, is that "Hill" has a lock on the nomination. Baloney. First of all, conventional wisdom, this far ahead of a major political event is oftentimes incorrect; secondly, she is a highly unlikable person. Shouldn't we just admit it: Hillary is gifted in her ability to make people seethe; thirdly, the last time ANY Democrat from an eastern, northeast state won the White House, it was Jack Kennedy in 1960. It should absolutely clear to the Dems that eastern liberal Democrats no longer can win national office. We shall see.

Perhaps Hill should move back to Arkansas?

The end for Hillary is nearing. Honest.


43 posted on 12/06/2004 10:12:22 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: Spok

I agree.

"No one factor accounts for the deep misgivings many voters express for Clinton, but to some degree it stems from a view that has taken hold, fairly or not, that she is a hugely ambitious woman with a liberal agenda that was most significantly illustrated in her efforts to overhaul the nation's health-care system during her husband's presidency."


Giant hurl! There is one factor -- she's a lying, communist skank. How hard is that to understand?


44 posted on 12/06/2004 10:23:03 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: speed_addiction

"To quote her fully, she was walking by, stopped, pointed at me and said, "There is that asshole again!""


The mental picture I have is one of the scene in "Invastion of the Body Snatchers" (the one with Donald Southerland) when pod people spot someone who is still human.


45 posted on 12/06/2004 10:25:05 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I prefer the word malevolence.


46 posted on 12/06/2004 10:30:33 AM PST by HaveGunWillTravel
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To: RexBeach

Caution: societies under extreme duress do strange things--e.g., giving an Austrian paper hanger command of the Wehrmacht. Like a hurricane, Hillary can only derive strength from unstable conditions. Until then, she must wait and wait.


47 posted on 12/06/2004 10:37:05 AM PST by qwertyz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Hillary! has all of Bill's liabilities, but none of Kerry's warmth.

If she's getting 33% unfavorables in liberal New York, what do they think she will get in the red states?


48 posted on 12/06/2004 10:37:59 AM PST by RJL
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To: DoraC

I personally know two Democrats (both women) who held their nose and voted for Kerry (they would have preferred Howard Dean) because they did not want to see Hillary in '08. One woman believes Hillary is a phony who should have divorced the sexist, politically moderate Bubba and then come out of the closet to prove that she is a true liberal. The other Dem woman believes the Clinton minions like McAwful and Begala sabotaged Dean and Kerry's chances of being elected.

These women are die-hard lefties who mock Republicans every chance they get, (they don't do it around me anymore) but somehow they suspect what a lot of us conservatives have known all along about the Clintonistas.

I doubt Hillary can change their opinions of her without offending and losing the so-called moderate, independent voters out there who don't trust Her Heinous or her obnoxious, philandering hubby.

However, knowing the mindset of most left-wingers, I would bet that these two would hold their noses and vote for Hillary in 4 years if she were the Dem POTUS nominee.


49 posted on 12/06/2004 10:45:02 AM PST by demnomo
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

***"One way to attempt that is to replicate what she did in New York with her listening tour." ***

Her "Listening tour" in NY State consisted of her NOT listening to anyone. No one could ask her a question unless it was submitted ahead of time, and nothing she did not want to answer was allowed.

Her opinion was never known on many issues.

Our local senior center asked for a volunteer to video tape her visit here, and my adult son volunteered. He went over to the center early and acquainted himself with their camera. Hitlery's SS men refused to let him do the videotape because her speech was only for seniors. What lies did she want to cover up?


50 posted on 12/06/2004 10:48:03 AM PST by kitkat
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To: mewzilla
I'd like to see the Toons subpoenaed in the Oil For Food investigation.

I hope they grew careless covering their tracks, for I strongly suspect they are involved.

51 posted on 12/06/2004 10:55:16 AM PST by backhoe (The 1990's? The Decade of Frauds...)
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To: speed_addiction
She called me an asshole and I got rousted by her Secret Service detail during her little "Healthcare Express" tour pushing the HillaryCare debacle.

Really? She called you an asshole in person to your face? That is a major honor. I envy you. Please tell us more about it.

52 posted on 12/06/2004 11:08:12 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

This is during the HillaryCare push and when the "HealthCare Express" was barnstorming through the country starting in the Northwest. When it hit Texas, it was already a disaster with more people showing up to protest against Hillary than those in favor.

A friend of mine owned a junkyard and body shop. He had an old bus that had been wrecked so we painted it up like the HealthCare express, but left the broken windows and dents.
We were parking it at every stop she was to make and those protesting Hillary were drawn to it. A glimpse of it even made CNN.

After a few stops as we folled her across Texas, Hillary became familiar with us and our faces. Mine more so because as the windiest of our group I was the spokesman by default.

At the last Texas stop, Hillary was walking to the podium and went by our bus. I was leaning against it. When she made eye contact with me she stopped dead in her tracks, pointed and said, "There is that asshole again."

A couple of her Secret Service detail then came over to me and asked me for ID and asked what I was doing. My answer was that I was exercising my Constitutionally protected right to peacefully assemble.

A quick side note. When I was busted a few years later my lawyer was astonished that I had a Secret Service file along with the DEA, Customs and FBI files he expected.


53 posted on 12/06/2004 11:20:42 AM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: MeSpikeLibs

"Sorry, But I am part of the group of Hillary Haters."

So 'sorry' to hear that. Personally, I 'LOVE' Hitlary--(we are to love the sinner and hate the sins)....so as a good Christian and American citizen I HATE EVERYTHING SHE DOES AND EVERYTHING SHE STANDS FOR and I will do anything in my power to thwart her!


54 posted on 12/06/2004 11:31:03 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: speed_addiction

Details, please! We wanna see where you were wounded in the war!


55 posted on 12/06/2004 11:33:47 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: rockrr

Excellent! See my #54


56 posted on 12/06/2004 11:35:55 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: RJL

"Hillary! has all of Bill's liabilities, but none of Kerry's warmth."

I regret having to disagree with you. That woman can turn on her fake compassion at a Mother Theresa level. The elitist useful idiots eat it up. The DUmbed-down masses at the other end of the DU voting spectrum fall for it....


57 posted on 12/06/2004 11:59:48 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: speed_addiction

Do you have any photos of your 'bus' you can post? ROTFLOL!


58 posted on 12/06/2004 12:04:33 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (...UGH! Cockroches! HUGE Cockroaches! Gotta Tent and fumigate the UN Building! Everybody Out!)
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To: qwertyz

LOL.


59 posted on 12/06/2004 12:12:43 PM PST by RexBeach
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To: Coop
Roughly four out of 10 Americans disapprove of her, according to a recent poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion.

Way too low. We've got some educatin' to do before Nov 08.

That's just her, before she talks policy - that will push the numbers to 6 out of 10.

60 posted on 12/06/2004 12:28:51 PM PST by Socrates1 (Those whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.)
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