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Challenges Planned to Ohio's Presidential Vote Totals
The Washington Post ^ | Monday, December 6, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 12/05/2004 10:45:00 PM PST by TBP

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41 posted on 12/06/2004 4:08:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Merry

I AGREE. If they want recounts, then let's just have some
recounts in other states that Kerry won. Perhaps there
was a mistake in those states as well, long lines, not
enough machines, Democrat voter fraud, etc. When it comes
to voter fraud, the Democrats have always been champs,
hands down. I was reading an old Reader's Digest a while
back, one going back several years which chronicled the
expertise of the Democrat Party at voter fraud, told how
they did it.


42 posted on 12/06/2004 4:08:40 AM PST by Twinkie (IT ONLY TAKES ONE VIKING KITTY TO CHANGE A LIGHT BULB!)
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To: blondee123
Exactly right.

I propose that we all support this recount effort that will cost Ohio millions.
Perhaps we could egg them on to be as obnoxious and snotty to the Ohioans as they were to us in Florida, in 2000.

I laugh every time I think on our revenge here, and the way that we handed Kerry his ass, while all the polls were calling Florida "too close to call."

If Florida is any example, the dems will lose Ohio forever, just like they did Florida.
43 posted on 12/06/2004 4:23:30 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Hi Bill - fellow Floridian here - Palm Beach Gardens.


46 posted on 12/06/2004 5:41:39 AM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Member of the Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: Hartranft

I think that 90% statement is true. Only us political junkies even know these looney lefties are claiming the Ohio vote was stolen. If Kerry were to suddenly come out with some overt challenge to the vote at this late stage it would surely look like he was trying to steal the whole election and it would doom what little chance he has in '08. Plus with GWB taking an outright majority of the national vote any effort to somehow oeverturn this based on the votes of one state would go over very badly.


47 posted on 12/06/2004 5:44:36 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: savedbygrace
If there are long lines, you stand in line until your turn to vote comes, and then you vote. By law, the polls must stay open until everyone who was in line before the cutoff time votes. If you give up and go home, you don't vote, and nobody can figure out how to count your vote later, because there is no vote to count.

There were long lines EVERYWHERE in both conservative and liberal leaning districts. Two hour wait in some precincts in my district.

How would you prove that the long lines deterred someone from voting? There would only be anecdotal evidence unless cameras were trained on all polling places and even then, it could be a set up.

48 posted on 12/06/2004 5:46:55 AM PST by randita
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To: All

There will be no one in the courtroom to tell judges that there were long lines everywhere. FR is not mounting an effort at rebuttal. Absent rebuttal we start losing court cases.


49 posted on 12/06/2004 6:13:21 AM PST by Owen
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To: DollyCali; Molly Pitcher

Shaking head in disbelief ping.


50 posted on 12/06/2004 6:16:22 AM PST by ride the whirlwind
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To: CriticalJ
Duh. Did these fools not watch the news. There were long lines all over the country. This is an unintentional back-haned slap at their own party. They are saying that the Dims don't have enough devotion to wait in long lines. There is also an implication that the system must be change since the dims had to wait in line.

To be fair, their was one very bad problem with long lines in Knox County. Kenyon College has about 1600 students, but they had only two voting machines. The last vote was cast at about 3:40 am. Since the polls closed at 7:30, that was over an eight hour delay; some kids waited on line ten hours. I'd be quite upset myself over that.

But they clearly did get to vote and it didn't affect the result.

51 posted on 12/06/2004 6:30:23 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: ride the whirlwind; TBP; Molly Pitcher

Pure Idiocy.


52 posted on 12/06/2004 6:31:59 AM PST by DollyCali (We can never repay our veterans...NEVER. Thank you all who served our great country.)
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To: Torie

Dear Torie,

"If you think a margin of 118,000 versus 136,000 is 'much' closer, whatever. I think it is abuse of the English language. Would not a better term be 'slightly closer?'"

I'd call it "modestly closer." A bit more than "slightly," not as much as "moderately."

LOL.


sitetest


53 posted on 12/06/2004 6:33:11 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Owen
There will be no one in the courtroom to tell judges that there were long lines everywhere. FR is not mounting an effort at rebuttal. Absent rebuttal we start losing court cases.

We are not going to lose court cases on this. The Ohio Supreme Court is solidly Republican. I saw Chief Justice Thomas Moyer at the Bush/Cheney rally at Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati on Halloween. This is nothing like Florida 2000. Bush is still well outside the Margin of Lawyer here.

54 posted on 12/06/2004 6:33:30 AM PST by You Dirty Rats
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To: TBP

"WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Our constituency isn't smart enough to vote correctly, legally and in a timely manner so there has clearly been a effort to disenfranchise them."


55 posted on 12/06/2004 6:37:38 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT (From the Land of Liberalty. All we are saying is give pizza chants.)
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To: CriticalJ; All

I had to wait in line and I live in Illinois.. Bush lost that state!


56 posted on 12/06/2004 6:40:02 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: TBP
citing documented cases of long lines

Long lines? Let's throw out the whole election and start over. We can't have long lines. /s

57 posted on 12/06/2004 6:42:53 AM PST by Camachee
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To: Camachee

While it would be helpful to have more voting machines in use, that would require more pollwatchers. Then the Dimmycraps would be screaming about voter intimidation due to the unprecedented number of pollwatchers.

So instead of that, they're complaining about the long lines.


58 posted on 12/06/2004 6:51:20 AM PST by TBP
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To: MEG33
I would like to see a study done comparing the numbers of voting machines in all the precincts of Ohio from year to year. With special emphasis given to the number or numbers of machines in the black precincts.

Say comparing this year to 1992, 1996 when klintoon won Ohio. Bet there were fewer machines in those precincts than there were this year.

59 posted on 12/06/2004 6:52:09 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: TBP
Isn't the number of polling places and voting machines the responsibility of the individual counties? I know that is the case in Texas.

If the Rats are mad about long lines in Franklin and Cuyahoga, should not they take it up with their Rat-controlled local government.

60 posted on 12/06/2004 6:54:24 AM PST by writmeister
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