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Wireless World: Old mobile phones a hazard
United Press International ^ | December 3, 2004 | Gene Koprowski

Posted on 12/03/2004 10:18:54 AM PST by kerrywearsbotox

By Gene J. Koprowski UPI Technology News

Published 12/3/2004 9:04 AM CHICAGO, Dec. 3 (UPI) -- A mobile phone is a disposable product -- consumers buy a new one about every year and a half, and toss the old one in the closet. Then, years later, when they have a major house-cleaning weekend, they find a few old phones collecting dust and toss them out in the trash. Experts told UPI's Wireless World this pattern is starting to become a major environmental issue, as old mobile phones start to fill up garbage dumps across the United States and leach lead, arsenic, gold and other toxins into the groundwater. "There are a lot of heavy metals being released into landfills because of old mobile phones," said Chuck Harrell, an environmental supervisor with the Southeastern Public Service Authority, a government agency in Chesapeake, Va.Now, mobile phone manufacturers such as Motorola Corp. are collaborating with environmentalists and the government to solve this emerging problem. --Wireless World is a weekly series examining the social, cultural and economic impact of mobile telephony technology, by Gene Koprowski, who covers technology for UPI Science News. E-mail sciencemail@upi.com. Copyright © 2001-2004 United Press International

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: environment; landfills; mobilephones; toxins; wireless
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Great story about new ways to dispose of old mobile phones.
1 posted on 12/03/2004 10:18:55 AM PST by kerrywearsbotox
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To: kerrywearsbotox

OH, don't claim that heavy metals cause health hazards - some (a small but ignorant minority) will call you a pinko enviro-fag.


2 posted on 12/03/2004 10:22:01 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
consumers buy a new one about every year and a half

This is mind boggling to me. I have owned a total of two cell phones over the past fifteen years. Why do they need new ones so often?

3 posted on 12/03/2004 10:22:03 AM PST by EggsAckley (...............stop unnecessary excerpting.................)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
----yeah---the end of civilization is near because of the disposal of old phones--not.

If I need to dispose of one , I'll put it right next to the dead flashlight batteries that I make a point of putting in the trash---

4 posted on 12/03/2004 10:22:16 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: kerrywearsbotox
as old mobile phones start to fill up garbage dumps across the United States

Notice the statement that it is mobile phones that are filling up garbage dumps across the USA. What a crock!

These people that write these articles really have no clue to how brain-dead they appear.

5 posted on 12/03/2004 10:25:24 AM PST by technomage
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To: EggsAckley

I admit to being guilty on this one (once). I just upgraded from 2 2-year-old Kyoceras to 2 Nokias (one fer me, one fer the Wife).

But that's mostly because the Kyocera's charging ports started not connecting reliably, and the battery contact design is terrible (Wife's was loose, and would often lose contact completely and shut down).


6 posted on 12/03/2004 10:25:31 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: EggsAckley

Same here, almost. I'm on my third cell phone, the only reason I had to buy the 2nd one was because the battery crapped out, and it would have cost nearly as much as a new phone to buy a battery, so I bought a phone that was updated. I really haven't worried to much about tossing the old one in the trash.


7 posted on 12/03/2004 10:26:26 AM PST by .38sw
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To: kerrywearsbotox

They're right - old mobile phones ARE a health hazard. You can throw out your back trying to lift them up to your mouth to talk.


8 posted on 12/03/2004 10:26:31 AM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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To: kerrywearsbotox

Its nice to hear of an environmental group what works with Industrial technology to find more environmentally friendly alternatives.


9 posted on 12/03/2004 10:27:01 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: rellimpank

I smell a setup for a new disposal tax on the cell bill right next to Algore's fee for wiring schools.


10 posted on 12/03/2004 10:27:12 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs at rest.)
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To: kerrywearsbotox

My old-but-faithful Treo 300.

11 posted on 12/03/2004 10:27:31 AM PST by martin_fierro (brrrrrr)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
G O L D !

Really?

12 posted on 12/03/2004 10:29:33 AM PST by StACase
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To: LauraleeBraswell

However, It seems unlikely that metals, a natural element, are polluting our natural environment.


13 posted on 12/03/2004 10:30:51 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell (See and decide for yourself)
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To: Little Pig

As one who owns a few shares of Nokia, I thank you!


~</:o)


14 posted on 12/03/2004 10:31:18 AM PST by EggsAckley (...............stop unnecessary excerpting.................)
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To: Thebaddog
I smell a setup for a new disposal tax

Bingo!!

15 posted on 12/03/2004 10:31:46 AM PST by Fresh Wind (All we are say-y-y-y-ing is give Beast a chance!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

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OH, don't claim that heavy metals cause health hazards
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Repeat after me: Dosage, dosage, dosage.


16 posted on 12/03/2004 10:33:05 AM PST by frgoff
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To: rellimpank

Home Depot, Radio Shack and lot of other places that sell rechargeable batteries have recycling bins, why not put NiCad and NiMH batteries there?


17 posted on 12/03/2004 10:33:40 AM PST by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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To: Thebaddog

---yeah---the Republidums sure did a great job getting rid of that---


18 posted on 12/03/2004 10:34:13 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Gold?


19 posted on 12/03/2004 10:34:25 AM PST by Old Professer (The accidental trumps the purposeful in every endeavor attended by the incompetent.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

--(sarcasm)--I save precious petroleum by putting them in the trash rather than driving to the recycling center--


20 posted on 12/03/2004 10:36:21 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: frgoff

Cell phone in lined landfill.
Heavy metal in leachate.
Leachate leaks into streat.
Crawdad ingests metals
catfish eats crayfish
bubba eats catfish, actually a whole mess of fried catfish, thereby ingesting significant amounts of heavy metals over the years.

Maybe a little extreme, but the stuff is quite difficult & expensive to remove from waterourses.

All landfills leak. period.


21 posted on 12/03/2004 10:37:49 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: Old Professer

Gold won't hurt, my dad gets injections for his arthritis.

It's the nickel, cadmium, etc.


22 posted on 12/03/2004 10:39:17 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: EggsAckley
Why do they need new ones so often?

Because Madison Avenue has convinced people that cell phones are as much a fashion statement as a means to communicate.

23 posted on 12/03/2004 10:41:02 AM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

"OH, don't claim that heavy metals cause health hazards - some (a small but ignorant minority) will call you a pinko enviro-fag."

You ARE being sarcastic...no?





24 posted on 12/03/2004 10:41:30 AM PST by AlexW
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To: EggsAckley
Why do they need new ones so often?

The colors change.

25 posted on 12/03/2004 10:41:56 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: dfwgator; Aquinasfan

Sadly, you're both correct.

I'm very happy with my six year old Nokia.


26 posted on 12/03/2004 10:43:21 AM PST by EggsAckley (...............stop unnecessary excerpting.................)
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To: AlexW

no.


27 posted on 12/03/2004 10:55:27 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
Please, give me a break. Dumping an old phone in the trash adds about 0.000000000001% to the solid waste stream. Aren't there slightly more pressing things libs need to worry about?
28 posted on 12/03/2004 11:02:12 AM PST by crv16
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To: farmfriend


29 posted on 12/03/2004 11:08:13 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Well, I have been in the two-way radio business for over 30 years, and sold cell phones in the days when they were in handbags.

The thought of discarded phones being a health hazard is quite ludicrous.
Just think...How many hand held phones would make up the same content of heavy metals as ONE automobile battery?

I could go on about this, but it is not worth the time for something this ridiculous.
30 posted on 12/03/2004 11:08:43 AM PST by AlexW
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To: kerrywearsbotox; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
31 posted on 12/03/2004 11:09:53 AM PST by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: crv16

You are right, the volume isn't a problem. The lib/com scum used to say disposable diapers would choke the landfills, until it was proven that typically make up only 0.5% of a typical landfill volume. Newsprint was at approx 35%, but you didn't see print reporters touting that, did you?


32 posted on 12/03/2004 11:10:33 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: AlexW

You are right, the lead and acid are nasty, especially because the lead is soluble to an extent in the acid. Most auto batteries are recycled nowadays.

The metals are different in the new batteries.

I knew I would get this s4it from someone.


33 posted on 12/03/2004 11:13:36 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox" Greg!)
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To: Thebaddog

SSSSSHHHHH!! Bob-the-Taxman-Taft might hear about this and levy yet another tax on us Ohioans!! He's taxed just about everything else!! Paging Ken Blackwell -- HELP!!!


34 posted on 12/03/2004 11:13:50 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
Experts told UPI's Wireless World this pattern is starting to become a major environmental issue, as old mobile phones start to fill up garbage dumps across the United States and leach lead, arsenic, gold and other toxins into the groundwater.

Leaching gold? Are they kidding? Pray tell, unless there's a healthy flow of aqua regia in the groundwater, how would that happen? Further, seeing as groundwater pollution from lead hasn't been detected in Gettysburg of Verdun, what do you think the likelihood of that is from cellphones?

This is nothing more than a scam.

35 posted on 12/03/2004 11:26:55 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Well at least by cutting down the number of recipients it will delay the day that Social Security collapses.


36 posted on 12/03/2004 11:27:23 AM PST by NHResident
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To: Polyxene

I was just in Dayton over Thanksgiving and everybody was crying the economic blues. I don't get it. The whole town is manufacturing and white collar and nothing is going on they say. Methinks that voting red this time might just help you guys.


37 posted on 12/03/2004 11:27:46 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs at rest.)
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!!


38 posted on 12/03/2004 11:29:14 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: EggsAckley
This is mind boggling to me. I have owned a total of two cell phones over the past fifteen years. Why do they need new ones so often?

Battery life, reception, Bluetooth connectivity to computer, photos of grandkid on display, Alarm functions, size, ...

And this is just the base model now.

39 posted on 12/03/2004 11:31:25 AM PST by WildTurkey
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To: kerrywearsbotox

Cell phones are a very successful consumer product; electric cars are as yet an unsuccessful product that is favored by government & enviromentalist groups. Both use batteries that, if not disposed of properly, will cause problems at landfills. Guess which product catches all the heat?


40 posted on 12/03/2004 11:32:02 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Thebaddog

One would think with a Republican controlled state, we would be in good shape. Unfortunately, Bob-the-Taxman-Taft is a RINO of the first degree, and both he and the legislature are spending our money like drunken sailors. If we could get some tax relief, it would help. If the governor and legislature would cut back on their spending, it would help even more!


41 posted on 12/03/2004 11:40:26 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
"I knew I would get this s4it from someone."

Well, yes, when you post something that makes a mountain out of a mole hill, then you should expect some flack.

We have far greater worries then the horrors of some cell phones winding up in a landfill.
42 posted on 12/03/2004 11:41:41 AM PST by AlexW
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To: kerrywearsbotox
I calculate roughly that a billion cell phones, stacked three feet high, would take up an area about the size of 10 football fields.

That's not a lot of space. That's one of the many problems w/ envirowackos---the world is large, and all the refuse for the next century in total takes up only a tiny bit of the area of the surface of the earth. Assuming the stuff is bad and will all go directly into the water, how can ten football fields amount to any measurable difference when you consider all the water on earth? What would that be---one part-per-gazillion?

Of course, these are the same people who tell us the end is near due to global warming, and are the same people who told us 30 years ago the end was near due to the coming ice age, that we were going to run out of oil by 1980, out of food by 1990, Supply side economics would wreck the economy, taxcuts would end civilization as we know it, we all descended from apes, homosexuals are born that way, yadayadayada....With the track record of academia, why would anyone believe a word they say?

43 posted on 12/03/2004 11:44:38 AM PST by gg188
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To: EggsAckley

It's called upgrading.


44 posted on 12/03/2004 11:45:32 AM PST by tai-pan (I knew you either had a plan, was thinkin of a plan or was thinkin of thinkin of a plan)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
I guess cell phones are made from some breakthrough technology that involves different materials than any other electronic device. Of course, only cell phones are the problem. All the old Sony betamax tape recorders, Commodore 64s, Atari 2600s, and Nintendo game controllers have nothing to do with this.

The really sad thing is how many people will read this and just believe it unquestioningly.

45 posted on 12/03/2004 11:47:05 AM PST by NCSteve
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To: asgardshill
You can throw out your back trying to lift them up to your mouth to talk.

They didn't call them Brick Phones for nuthin'.


46 posted on 12/03/2004 11:58:37 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
Gold is not a toxin. That's why they put it into people's mouths for fillings. Of course they also put mercury into people's mouths for fillings...
47 posted on 12/03/2004 12:08:55 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: AlexW; farmfriend; calcowgirl; eldoradude; Not just another dumb blonde; jcon40; Carry_Okie; ...

Mrs. Wasp still has and uses her old 5 watt analog bag phone! We ain't throwin it away because we live on the edge of a retarded CA mountainous Sierran county suffering from "Arrested Development," that has banned the erection of cell phone towers. The few we have are pathetically disguised as pine trees and look ridiculous to the MAX!!!


48 posted on 12/03/2004 12:09:02 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
"OH, don't claim that heavy metals cause health hazards - some (a small but ignorant minority) will call you a pinko enviro-fag."

Not bad! Hey, how 'bout mititant member of GANG-GREEN?

What is it about the fact that these heavy metals came out of the ground in the first place, that you can't seem to understand???

49 posted on 12/03/2004 12:13:53 PM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: kerrywearsbotox
This POS on my belt isn't going to the dump when it's time to upgrade. It's going to the pistol range (sans battery, of course).

I so look forward to its demise. 8^)

50 posted on 12/03/2004 12:19:02 PM PST by AngryJawa (Now Accepting Ammo Donations)
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