Posted on 11/27/2004 5:10:11 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
Per Heartland with John Kasich....on foxnews.
Mansoor says that the idea that Osama Bin Laden is in Waziristan was propaganda by the liberal media.
He also believes that now that the US election is over..there will be much less pressure on the Pakistani President to try and find Bin laden.
"Bin laden has been able to move this ease," said Mansoor.
Kasich: This guy's making video's and we can't find the guy? Can you imagine putting a nuclear weapon next to a guy named Bin Laden?
Mansoor: The real nexus of terror is that the Iranians have taken a strategic step back in order to divert attention from the IAEA and enrich as much as Uranium as they can.
Mansoor: They would like the dirty work to be done by Bin ladens men. But only after the Iranians have set the marks for the strike.
Richard Miniter (Shadow War): US intelligence officials have been warning for a long time about Iran. Iran is surrounded by US troops now.
Miniter: They've seen democracy breaking out around them. They're reaching out to Bin Laden.
What would the liberal media have to gain by saying bin laden was in Waziristan????
bttt
Mansoor has made some pretty good predictions in the past.
Wonder if it had something to do with the election?
I think they are just picking up and repeating what they are hearing from DOD. The bigger question is whether or not it is disinformation to leave the media in the dark....and keep the enemy clueless.
bin Laden is definately in Iran. The Pakistanis has combed the region over and over and we've combed the Afghani side. He's not there.
>What would the liberal media have to gain by saying bin laden was in Waziristan????<
The illusion that the media has better intel than the CIA.
I am thinking that Pakistan coming out actively saying that they believe Bin Laden is not in the area..and that they are pulling their forces out of the area...is in fact disinformation.
Bin Laden's son is in Iran as well. That is widely known. we haven't heard much from Sod bin laden lately...
bttt
Didn't we have Al-Zawahiri cornered at one point?
He has? I cannot think of any. Educate me.
Well..he's made a lot of predictions..that would have come true...had he not predicted them.
I can remember him being right..but I can't remember specifics. I'll look it up.
To divert attention from Bin Laden maybe being in Iran.
He's also been way off quite often. Either way though what he's saying here is common sense for anyone who is willing to look.
I suspect he's in Iran as well. They say his headquarters was in Falluja, but they found letters from him urging his followers on. Why would he send letters if he were there in person?
"The illusion that the media has better intel than the CIA"
Maybe not better but more up to date; the CIA after all gets it's intelligence from newspapers.
I didn't see Kaisch's program this evening, but the Al Qaida-Iran links bear careful watching. The mullahs in Tehran have little use for UBL's interpretation of the Koran, since it comes from the "wrong" side of Islam. But Al Qaida is a useful tool for Tehran, and they're quite willing to let UBL and his minions do their bidding, just as they've used Hizballah as terrorist "errand boys." It's worth noting--and it's no accident--that the vast majority of Al Qaida fighters entering Iraq have come through Iran, following well-established infiltration routes that can be traced all the way to Warziristan.
So, where did Kerry get his news? Was he coordinating his campaign with AlQaida or what.
no way they "combed the region" in my opinion. Bodansky says that OBL is living as part of a regular family in Pakistan - he has no security apparatus around him, no huge # of guard, no convoys of vehicles moving him around, nothing that would attract attention. this is why the Paks can't find him.
Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
...Mansoor has made some pretty good predictions in the past....
He (Mansoor) has about as good a picture as anybody on how the terrorists move money and recruit people. At times he can be very enlightening to listen to. Plus, he's a business man and he knows terror is bad for business in any country.
I hope that Pakistan does not relax in the war on terror. That would not be a good thing.
In spite of how they manage the data they have access to, it is better data.
Doesn't mean they're omnicient.
All Agencies in the Intelligence Community get PART of their RAW Intelligence from newspapers. After that, they verify in order to have some basic data for analysis.
bin Laden is definately in Iran
Considering what Bin Laden was wearing in his last pre-election video I tend to believe this. He looked almost like an Iranian mullah in the way he was dressed. But I just do not understand why the heavily Shia government of Iran would welcome a Wahabi Sunni Muslim into their country. Of course, when did the Islamic world make any sense to any of us.
I just don't believe that Osama would stay in Pakistan. Some of the people there are sympathetic to him, but there are also plenty who are logal to Musharaf. And it only takes one Musharaf loyal who happens to see the wrong thing and who could give away his position. He would not risk it, and I don't believe he could stay there undetected for 3 years. Same with Afghanistan. I think its more likely that he's in Iran, or possibly Indonesia.
I just remember every few months he goes on Fox, makes a prediction, everybody goes gaga over it, and it never happens. It may be thats the nature of the shadowy world of the Middle East, but it also makes it a fruitful region for so-called experts to make predictions.
Seems the world over time and time again uses "Al Qaida" types to keep themselves hidden.
Iran would be taking a huge risk to harbor him - if it ever was revealed, US public opinion would support any and all kinds of military action to get him - and we wouldn't need to sugar coat it with this "liberation" stuff.
Screw the MSM. Boycott them all.
Didn't we have Al-Zawahiri cornered at one point?
Not that I have ever heard of.
Depending on which brand of Islam you are into that Mahdi is going to be the nth reincarnation of Ali, the man whose death created the Shia/Sunni dichotomy.
"W" made sure the Mahdi didn't reincarnate. Still, some of the mullahs in Iran are holding out for hope against hope.
We did and missed him in an early morning strike. We hit the wrong house in Falluja.
No No.
Not Zarqawai! Ayman Al Zawahiri..the doctor!
We had him cornered in a cave!
Mansoor has been notable for his absence lately. Anyone have an idea where he has been?
He started showing back up on Fox about a week ago.
Not sure where he went. He goes to the Middle East for a month or two..then comes back and reports his findings.
With Lebanon free, and Jordan on a very short leash, we have a "come to Jesus" discussion with the well-spring of the evil-spawn -- Saudi Arabia. They stop preaching anti-US violence, they shut down the Madrassas, or they will all be pumping gas for Exxon.
Can't let that go by without reminding you that there are men and women putting their lives on the line every day to gather the intelligence you disparage.
It is not the fault of the case officers if that intelligence doesn't make it into the report that goes to the policymakers.
Just aim your shots at the right target.
Oh, sorry. They are starting to sound alike I guess
They constantly task the West to kick their asses. After another millenia of zero-accomplishment (aside from breeding zealous idiots), it gets easier. This time will be no different.
"Mansoor has made some pretty good predictions in the past."
Yes, he makes good predictions...the problem is that none of them turn out to be true.
Hey guys, we could have left the cans off, stayed home and read newspapers.
Secondly, Iran's recent willingness to make a deal with the Europeans suggests Tehran may have covert nuclear facilities which can supplant--or even replace--declared sites. This would allow Iran to use the same tactics employed by North Korea under that disasterous deal brokered by Jimmy Carter back in 1994. While the IAEA monitored an idle facility at Yongbyon, North Korea was using secret sites to produce nuclear weapons. The European "deal" creates the potential for a similar scenario in Iran. BTW, I'm told that the German intelligence service believes that Iran has a major covert facility in the eastern part of that country, between Tehran and the Afghan border. Very interesting, since Germany is pushing the current deal with Iran....
.... the timing is suspicious ......
MI Ping (except for spook86, who's already here.)
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