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A shameful episode in Harvard's history
Boston Globe (aka The National SOCIALIST Review) ^ | 11/14/2004 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 11/14/2004 11:34:17 AM PST by worldclass

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To: tsomer
I think we're a little quick to judge people in history from our relatively comfortable situation.

I believe what tends to happen is that we don't anticipate how terrible things can get until they do. Then, while a nation is descending into the pit, we try to understand when we should confront. We're caught up in the emotions of the moment because we didn't decide before the moment came upon us. Then we try to act noble and give them a hearing when they deserve no hearing. Some things truly are wrong and should not have to be discussed before we say, "Nope, that's wrong." Error does not deserve free speech.

Today we see the same issue with homosexuality. We should not be trying to figure out what to do about it, that much has been obvious from the foundation of the world. But we didn't anticipate that the sexual revolution would lead to this, so we were unprepared. Now we are presented with the emotional attack that good people are homosexual. That really has nothing to do with it. We should be sticking to the guns we established before the emotions of the moment were upon us.

Except we have forgotten where we keep those guns.

Shalom.

41 posted on 11/14/2004 2:49:20 PM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: gcruse

The Boston Globe will never criticize the NYT since the NYT and Globe are part of the same corporation. Jacoby is the token conservative at the Globe.

Also, the wife of Anthony Lewis, the NYT columnist, is none other than Margaret Marshall of Mass. Supreme Court same-sex ruling fame.

Liberals are incestuous.


42 posted on 11/14/2004 7:20:32 PM PST by worldclass
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To: frannie

Could you let us Freepers in on some of what she said?

Tammy Bruce identifies herself as a "pro-gun pro-abortion lesbian feminist" who supports Bush and is basically a convert from feminazism to a conservative world view, granted with exceptions like abortion and homosexual marriage.

She was called a fascist by some twerp in her audience. She responded by asking him if he could give a definition of fascism, and did he know where fascism originated, who started it. The heckler was silent! He didn't even know what he was calling her. She went on to make a great point about leftwing name-calling and "group-think."


43 posted on 11/14/2004 7:39:33 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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Yet isn't something of our own "situation" in fact "us" -- what we believe, aspire to and fear? ...

I would like to think so, but as you seem to admit, we've never suffered anything like the ordeal the German people suffered through. Perhaps the Civil War and it's aftermath equaled the abjection that overtook the Germans. And it was not pretty, which I suspect is the reason the reconstruction is largely forgotten.

When I look at the rise of Nazism in Germany I keep recalling that on virtually every level--especially cultural-- this was the most highly evolved society in Europe. Within a matter of years an erudite, liberal, forward looking modern society was reduced to a goose-stepping mob.

Their economic decline was at least a significant factor, if not the sole cause.

Look at our own culture. Flip on the tv for a few minutes, or simply talk to someone at work; you'll see that this culture has nothing over the Germans. It has to make you wonder.

In the Lord's Prayer is the line.."do not bring us to the test, but deliver us from evil..." I think the idea I'm trying to articulate is expressed there. The fact is that we really don't know how we'd react under such circumstances. I think we need to remind ourselves that we never, ever want to find out.

44 posted on 11/14/2004 9:29:55 PM PST by tsomer
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To: worldclass

Wow. Incest all around.


45 posted on 11/14/2004 10:13:32 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: weegee
Stalin killed tens of millions more than Adolph Hitler. Both were unfit to lead nations.

But I think that was perceived to be the only choice.

I wonder: when can we say that Hitler's intentions were revealed? I recall one American press account that was essentially laudatory about his making the trains run on time and the calisthenics and public works the youth were impressed into. I think the newspaper dated back to before the stock market collapse.

But I think it wasn't until 1938 before most understood him. I'm not certain Hitler himself knew where he was headed at that time.

46 posted on 11/16/2004 12:41:54 PM PST by tsomer
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