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Giant hail killed more than 200 in Himalayas
The Sunday Telegraph (UK) ^ | November 7, 2004 | By David Orr

Posted on 11/07/2004 8:13:34 AM PST by aculeus

For 60 years the skeletal remains of more than 200 people, discovered in 1942 close to the glacial Roopkund Lake in the remote Himalayan Gahrwal region, have puzzled historians, scientists and archaeologists. Were they soldiers killed in battle, royal pilgrims who lost their way and succumbed to hypothermia, or Tibetan traders who died of a mysterious illness?

Now, the first forensic investigation of one of the area's most enduring mysteries has concluded that hundreds of nomads - whose frozen corpses are being disgorged from ice high in the mountain - were killed by one of the most lethal hailstorms in history.

Scientists commissioned by the National Geographic television channel to examine the corpses have discovered that they date from the 9th century - and believe that they died from sharp blows to their skulls, almost certainly by giant hailstones. "We were amazed by what we found," said Dr Pramod Joglekar, a bio-archaeologist at Deccan College, Pune, who was among the team who visited the site 16,500ft above sea level.

"In addition to skeletons, we discovered bodies with the flesh intact, perfectly preserved in the icy ground. We could see their hair and nails as well as pieces of clothing."

The most startling discovery was that many of those who died suffered fractured skulls. "We retrieved a number of skulls which showed short, deep cracks," said Dr Subhash Walimbe, a physical anthropologist at the college. "These were caused not by a landslide or an avalanche but by blunt, round objects about the size of cricket balls."

The team, whose findings will be broadcast in Britain next month, concluded that hailstones were the most likely cause of the injuries after consulting Himalayan historians and meteorological records.

Prof Wolfgang Sax, an anthropologist at Heidelberg University in Germany, cited a traditional song among Himalayan women that describes a goddess so enraged at outsiders who defiled her mountain sanctuary that she rained death upon them by flinging hailstones "hard as iron".

According to the Guinness Book of World Records, the heaviest hailstones on record weighed up to 2.2lb and killed 92 people in Bangladesh in 1986.

The National Geographic team believes that those who died at Roopkund were caught in a similar hailstorm from which they were unable to find cover. The balls of ice would have been falling at more than 100mph, killing some victims instantly. Others would have fallen, stunned and injured, and died soon afterwards of hypothermia.

"The only plausible explanation for so many people sustaining such similar injuries at the same time is something that fell from the sky," said Dr Walimbe. "The injuries were all to the top of the skull and not to other bones in the body, so they must have come from above. Our view is that death was caused by extremely large hailstones."

The scientists found glass bangles, indicating the presence of women, in addition to a ring, spear, leather shoes and bamboo staves. They estimate that as many as 600 bodies may still be buried in snow and ice by the lake.

Bone samples collected at the site were sent to the Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit of Oxford University, where the date of death was established about AD 850 - 400 years earlier than supposed.

The team has yet to resolve the identity of the nomads. DNA from tissue samples suggested that the group was closely related. One match pointed to a community of high-caste Brahmins in central India.

The investigators agreed that the victims were Hindu pilgrims from the plains, rather than the mountains, because of their large size and good health.

"The skeletons are of large and rugged people," said Dr Dibyendukanti Bhattacharya of Delhi University. "They are more like the actors John Wayne or Anthony Quinn. Only a few have the characteristics of the Mongoloid hill people of the Himalayas."

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1 posted on 11/07/2004 8:13:34 AM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Global cooling caused by Jinjis Kahn.


2 posted on 11/07/2004 8:16:46 AM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: aculeus; mhking

Just D-mn


3 posted on 11/07/2004 8:18:06 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: aculeus

Nope. It was aliens that did it. /tinfoil


4 posted on 11/07/2004 8:18:20 AM PST by csvset
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To: cripplecreek
"Prof Wolfgang Sax, an anthropologist at Heidelberg University in Germany,"

Wait a minute . . . this phrase sounds like something written up in the Weekly World News!

5 posted on 11/07/2004 8:19:56 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: aculeus
round objects about the size of cricket balls

And still the little critters rub their back legs together to make noise.

6 posted on 11/07/2004 8:20:16 AM PST by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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To: cripplecreek
"blunt, round object about the size of cricket balls".

Kinda describes a......rock....duh!!

7 posted on 11/07/2004 8:22:09 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Blue Screen of Death

ROFL.. cricket balls, oh my goodness. LOL thanks.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 8:25:49 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Sacajaweau

This time of year I'm a little afraid to drive down the backroads when it's windy. We have a lot of osage orange trees around here. For those who don't know what an osage orange is, Imagine a walnut the size of a softball.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 8:25:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: cripplecreek

I know what you mean about osage oranges. I'm getting ready to go take a walk and they are out there waiting. Of course, I remember 30 years ago, sleeping outdoors in a hammock in a coconut plantation.. I kid you not and then deciding that it was not a good idea after the first night when I lay awake listening to the coconuts fall.


10 posted on 11/07/2004 8:27:39 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Blue Screen of Death

round objects about the size of cricket balls

And still the little critters rub their back legs together to make noise.



I nominate this as the funniest comment for the day. I laughed so hard my stomach now hurts.


11 posted on 11/07/2004 8:35:30 AM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: aculeus
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce120500.html
 
CCNet ESSAY: THE CATASTROPHIC YEARS AROUND 850 AD

By James T Palmer and Trevor Palmer <
trevor.palmer@ntu.ac.uk>

Summary

Records from northern Europe between 830 and 875 AD describe a period of
political and environmental turmoil, accompanied by frequent sightings of
comets and other celestial phenomena. Although the evidence is insufficient
for definite conclusions to be drawn, it could, with good reason, be taken
to indicate that an encounter between the Earth and debris from a
disintegrating giant comet occurred at this time.
 
I wonder if this is connected somehow?  An asteroid throws a large amount of water into the atmosphere, it freezes and falls as hail?  Just a thought.



12 posted on 11/07/2004 8:40:16 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: sully777

Crickets are harmless little critters that rub their legs together and make a lot of noise. I'm thinking we should stop calling the french "frogs" and call them crickets.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 8:40:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: Blue Screen of Death

You have a future in wit, laughter and comedy.


14 posted on 11/07/2004 8:43:36 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: BenLurkin

I was thinking Hollywood is missing a bet here for a new
SCI-FI flick! Or possibly, a new James Bond flick with
the Eevil SPECTRE launching yet another weather assault on the world!


15 posted on 11/07/2004 8:44:11 AM PST by Grendel9
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To: csvset

Why would aliens bean 'em with huge hail instead of just using their alien death rays?


16 posted on 11/07/2004 8:47:40 AM PST by kenth
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To: aculeus

That's "hail of a way to die".


17 posted on 11/07/2004 8:54:08 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: Lokibob

I've read that the Earth is still adding 1,000 tons of meteor dust a day. And also, that water-ice from comets could have been the major source of water on our planet.


18 posted on 11/07/2004 9:00:04 AM PST by DJtex (;)
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To: cripplecreek
I'm thinking we should stop calling the french "frogs" and call them crickets.

Won't work, crickets have balls.

19 posted on 11/07/2004 9:00:59 AM PST by OSHA (George W Bush - 59,054,087 <----- That's ME (The dumb one on the end!))
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To: Mercat

Around here, the thing is to NOT drive around in a convertible (top in either position, open or closed) or the moonroof open on a windy day....big ole heavy and sharp palm fronds can come flying down from those 60 or 70 foot tall trees and do a number on ya.

20 posted on 11/07/2004 9:05:15 AM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham....the ultimate Menage a Quatro)
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