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DEMOCRATS' DILEMMA
The New York Post ^ | November 7, 2004 | George Will

Posted on 11/07/2004 4:19:27 AM PST by stockpirate

Edited on 11/07/2004 4:26:32 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

JOHN Kerry's liberalism had something to do with his defeat. Hence so did this: By Jan. 20, 2009, all the elected presidents for 44 consecutive years will have come from three Southern states

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2004; georgewill; kerrydefeat; losers; winners
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"Never in this marathon did Kerry himself do anything to change the campaign's dynamics. He counted on events in Iraq, and on the power of his party's unconcealed belief that Bush is an imbecile. But Democrats cannot disguise from the country their bewilderment about how to appeal to a country that is so backward, they think, that it finds Bush appealing."

He counted on events in Iraq, ie death of our brave fighting men and woman.

1 posted on 11/07/2004 4:19:28 AM PST by stockpirate
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To: stockpirate

Sorry here is the link;

http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/33489.htm


2 posted on 11/07/2004 4:19:54 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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To: stockpirate

What I enjoyed the most about this election was watching that fool Soros throw his money down a bottomless pit of old, retreaded ideas.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 4:24:16 AM PST by BushCountry (http://www.cafepress.com/bushcountry2004 <-- Want to annoy a liberal?)
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To: stockpirate
....Just 25 years ago there were many liberals and conservatives in both parties. On Tuesday, four moderate-to-conservative Texas Democratic congressmen were defeated, the result of a second redistricting since the 2000 census. A conservative Georgia Republican won a Senate seat vacated by a conservative Democrat and a conservative Louisiana Republican won a seat vacated by a moderate Democrat. This continues — and very nearly completes — the process of producing a perfect overlap of America's ideological and party parameters. ....

The Democratic Party will continue to shrink.

Zell Miller tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen and they still are choosing left-wing leaders to rally lock-step, anti-GOP votes on the Hill.

4 posted on 11/07/2004 4:27:52 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stockpirate
When a conservative finds someone broken down on the road they stop to help.When a liberal finds someone broken down they condemn capitalism,the government, for not providing a better car as they drive by.

All the talk about the dems needing to understand the "red state" voter is a waste because if a dem truly understands a consevative they become one.At that point the arguement breaks down.

True compassion is trying to raise someone up from the depths not feeling sorry for them being there.

5 posted on 11/07/2004 4:37:51 AM PST by carlr
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"Zell Miller tried to tell them but they wouldn't listen and they still are choosing left-wing leaders to rally lock-step, anti-GOP votes on the Hill."

Saw an interesting interplay on CNN last Wednesday. A republican, a democrat, and the moderator, all women, were discussing what the democrats had to do to regain power. In response to a the republican's comment that the democrats needed to learn moral values, the democrat said: "We're not going to become 'born again Christians'." She immediately sensed how this sounded and began to stress that she too was a 'Christian', just not the 'born again' kind.

IOW, it's ok to be a Christian, just not the 'born again' kind who takes their religion seriously.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 4:43:55 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

They're fish out of water.


7 posted on 11/07/2004 4:45:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: carlr

It's a simple concept that cuts out government and that they can not abide.


8 posted on 11/07/2004 4:46:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wish Zell would do one last good deed by working on those conservative democrats to change parties. I'm not sure how many there are. Remember when clinton took office? Shortly there after, I think, 3 democrats from the Senate switched. This would send a huge message. We need to find good Republicans to replace the RINO'S in our party.


9 posted on 11/07/2004 4:51:26 AM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: stockpirate
Kerry ran a high-risk "biography candidacy" based on a four-month period 35 years ago

Ahem ! George

Kerry tried to run a campaign based on his bogus 4 months BUT some how his "Reporting For Duty " ploy at the convention got broadsided by a navy Swift Boat Squadron and was put in drydock for the remainder of the campaign
10 posted on 11/07/2004 4:54:23 AM PST by uncbob
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To: stockpirate

Ronald Reagan is from Illinois.


11 posted on 11/07/2004 5:04:13 AM PST by T'wit (The more intelligent candidate won.)
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Democrats will continue losing ground as long as the embrace socialism and every liberal, whacked out, thorazine-deprived fringe element on the planet.

They will also continue to lose ground as long as they refuse to acknowledge the truth. IMO, Kerry's biggest problem in the campaign was that truth tended to be malleable - it was whatever he thought at the moment.

His non-record in the Senate, his phoniness as a "hunter", his despicable lies about Vietnam and the VVAW are all powerful indicators of his fundamental lack of character and integrity. After 8 incredibly long years of Clinton and the "playboy mansion", I don't think that America is ready for a return to that era.

Bush brought the integrity and character issues back to the frontline - demonstrating first and foremost what a president is supposed to be. As long as the Dems are driven by McAuliffe and the Clintons, their losses will continue to mount.


12 posted on 11/07/2004 5:04:31 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: sarasotarepublican

In the information age even a marginally motivated person can search the internet for voting records, speech transcripts, blogs, and news about a candidate. Cable news adds another layer of information. Even if you are listing to an all pro-otherside news show you can gleen vast amounts of information. Take Kerry's "plans" for instance. He talked about them but never explained them. Sort of like the kid in school that claimed he had a mint Mickey Mantle baseball card but would never show it.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 5:05:22 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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IOW, it's ok to be a Christian, just not the 'born again' kind who takes their religion seriously.

Why of course! We know of a professor at a seminary who - with his wife - is a big Kerry/Edwards supporter. I suspect they take their particular flavor of church (and the salary/pension) seriously, but that's about it. Nice enough people to the eye, but corrosively pro-abort, pro-gay, anti-war, anti-gun, etc.

(I can see him saying, "Jesus? Good guy, great teacher. But that was then, and the needs of today's world..."

The left has spent a lot of time co-opting the trad church, and the increase in the number of "fundies" (NOT evangelicals- that term has been overused and misused) puts them on the wrong foot. And that is making the left pretty nutty this week.

14 posted on 11/07/2004 5:09:59 AM PST by niteowl77 (Next order of business: CBS, Viacom, and the RICO statutes.)
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To: DustyMoment

To read more about Kerry and the VVAW click on about me and read my links to the FBI files.


15 posted on 11/07/2004 5:10:29 AM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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American liberalism reflects the same weakness any political elitist system manifests. The tactics and operational art of today's liberal leadership is nearly identical to their tactics in the 70s.

Kerry's attack upon Bush and the war in Iraq is essentially the same game plan liberal socialists used to overthrow the US during the Vietnam War.

They won control of the democratic party and they succeeded in removing the US from victory in Vietnam. But they never learn from their blunders, while the least politically saavy see right through their foibles.


16 posted on 11/07/2004 5:15:58 AM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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"By Jan. 20, 2009, all the elected presidents for 44 consecutive years will have come from three Southern states"

Really? Where is the 2008 winner coming from? Inquiring minds want to know!

17 posted on 11/07/2004 5:34:53 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: BushCountry
What I enjoyed the most about this election was watching that fool Soros throw his money down a bottomless pit of old, retreaded ideas.

But at least Soros' money was spent in the US economy.

18 posted on 11/07/2004 5:55:41 AM PST by CPOSharky (JF'nK - The election is over, you lost, go back to work. On second thought, don't go back to work.)
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To: DugwayDuke

The Dims truly can't hide who they are. Kerry couldn't, Hillary can't and neither could the democrat on that panel.

The media tries to help them by attempting to persuade us that what we are seeing isn't really what it is. May we continue to be as astute in our judgements about people's character.

Prairie


19 posted on 11/07/2004 5:56:18 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: T'wit

Ronald Reagan was born in Illinois, but was Governor of California and derived his politcal base from there. He ran for President as "Ronald Reagan from California."


20 posted on 11/07/2004 6:01:43 AM PST by TheExploited (R-Illinois)
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