[AndreSOCAL]

For American, it's a dark day. The entire system of checks and balances is now non-existent. Bush and the right wing wacko Christian right rule this country, dispute being a self-righteous nation that it claims, this country retains the single most evil entity in the world. (Nothing in this essay should be confused with a knock on religion or God, only criticism to use them as an excuse to do evil.)

Osama Bin Laden released a tape to the American people explaining why he attack New York, and how to prevent more attacks, and the government suppressed it, because made to much sense. When Al Jazeera released part then the whole transcript they were threaten by military attack. I guess our “New, Free Iraq won’t get the right to free speech and press? The government would rather have you believe we never did anything to Bin Laden or his people to cause that attack on 9-11, and that the reason why Bin Laden dislikes American is simply, because we have freedom. I never bought into that line to of horseshit for one second, and anyone who has, well for you there is no hope. You fall into the category of American people that A) bought so deeply into the belief that America is a holy nation with nothing but moral values and good or even Godly intentions, or B) are so comfortable living your undisturbed life, your completely comfortable being ignorant to anyone else's suffering as long as you don't have to see or hear it. Politics in boring, and you want nothing to do with it. For you people, I say excitement is having the power hungry American government rule every aspect of your life threw the means of a police state because no one cared enough to stop it. But by the very nature of this forum, I will assume for most of you in disagreement with me, it is the latter of the two.

The founders of the land stole it away from the Native Americans, something we claim to be greatly shameful of. I don't so much spend time feeling sick in the fact that the government has slowly taken away every bit of compensation away that they gave the Natives, as they say none that are alive today felt the effects of the mass murders and stealing of the 1700 and 1800s, though I disagree with the notion. Is it not true that without the "white man's" invasion on this soil, those ancestors would still own this beautiful land, and not be fighting to keep it safe from the pollution and misuse the Bush Administration is now suggesting? Though disgusting in itself, I focus more of my concern and ill feelings toward the Americans help and involoment with a modern day slaughter and land invasion in the Middle East. The Jews are taking land occupied by the Arabs for generations on the authority of the Bible, an ancient text, and we, in the spirit of robbing the land for the native Americans have to problem aiding the Jews with the grace of God. God Bless America. We level their towers, kill their women and children, aid with money and the 6th fleet, and while the murders and terrorism continues, we bless our self as doing Gods children. Funny, so does Bin Laden.

I am reminded of Axle Rose of Guns N Roses when he said "Freedom is not in your hands when everyone is fighting for the promised land," and that's what's happening. Bin Laden's people have been murdered by the Jews and Americans on the authority of the Bible which states the land in question indeed belongs to the the Jews. But if this is so, why did the Jews abandon the land? And now the fighting back and forth has turned the most beautiful land in the Middle East, green and fruitful land, to a disgusting pile of waste and death.

To see the connection between this and what happened on 911, read Bin Laden's words, not mine. But don't be confused, I am not a terrorist. I am not encouraging or promoting or applauding the attacks on American soil. I am an American, and that remains true despite this distain for the empowering government. And please don’t send me emails saying “well if you don’t love his country leave it” because ill call you a dumbass. Not to question your government is un-American, NOT SPEAKING OUT AGAINST IT is un-American. This country was founded on the idea and beliefs that we will not settle for what we have, we will fight for the best that we can obtain. We will allow people to do things that we don’t like, as long as they don’t directly harm our freedom. This country has moved away from that line of thinking. And to sit back and fund a government with your tax money that murders and lies to you, well that’s beyond un-American, that’s out right disgusting. To have so apathy and be so ignorant to not watch and control your Government is startling, and to be ruled by our very creation is embarrassing. That right, I’m becoming embarrassed of the title “American”. I thank all you for that.

As far as the election, do I feel Kerry would have made a difference? Would he have made all Bushes wrongs right? Would he have saved 200 years of a declining society? No. But I believe more so than Bush, he would have stopped this country from spiraling out of control. He would have been MORE honest than Bush. I believe he would have begun to mend some ties that Bush destroyed. He would have made being an American a little more honorable. Bill Maher, how about this for a “NEW RULE!”…. no more cowboy presidents! They seem to be so quick to fight, but the first to dodge one if they have to fight in it.

The American Government is, in my mind, without a doubt the most evil government in the world ruling over either the most dumb or appathic people in the world. Usually after an unfavorable election, I would support the idea of coming together as a nation and solving the problems. In this instance I wont. I will tell you to remain divided, because I would rather see America fall divided, with self respect intact, then to support this evil empire that is the United States. I rather see this nation dissolve and join the N.W.O then to be a puppet for the Bush. I rather let the rest of the world know, I am Andre Verdun, an American, not stupid, not a murder, not a terrorist, even if others are. This country doesn’t control me. I will exercise my rights to protest, till the point of being arrested for not taking off my “Bush is a terrorist” T-shirt despite my “guaranteed rights” to do so. So when all the smoke clears, I can live with myself. I know I did the right thing. I didn’t give in to get the label "patriot", I defied my government, and I saved my own personal freedom.

America’s founding father would be proud of me, I know it.

If you have any questions, concerns, agreements, disagreements, or hate mail, please refer them to andreverdun@hotmail.com

Please read the supplied transcript.

Thank you.

[Malleus Dei]

10 out of 10 international terrorsists preferred John Kerry for president!

[Chode]

[Nataku X]

That Bin Laden says that they are/were free men when in fact the Taliban was the most oppressive theocracy in current existence automatically invalidates the rest of what he says.

[Shqipo]

I prefer shorter Islamic jihad rants such as "Americans will be devoured by the desert and scorpions will chew their noses," or "The mother of all battles will birth maggots to feed off the infidels' bowels," and the like.

[intolerancewillNOTbetolerated]

Andre, Andre, Andre. Is this some exercise for your tenth grade remedial English class?

If so, I hope your teacher is one of the many Kool-Aid drinkers who grade on how well you demonstrate your Socialist indoctrination rather than on intellectual or grammitcal worth.

[stboz]

Some dogs just need killin'.

[bad company]

[Billthedrill]

Andy, look - when you do grow up big enough to vote, kindly remember that to adults, Axl Rose isn't exactly Soren Kierkegaard. The Founders would not be proud of you, they'd wince in embarrassment. But that long-winded bag of gas bin Laden? He'd be proud of you.

[pharmamom]

Jeesh. The trolls lately have been way too easy to spot. I like more of a challenge. Is there any way to attract more subtle, more intelligent trolls? Make us work at it, for once!

[Slings and Arrows]

[MarineBrat]

People like you are the reason why they put warning labels on Superman Halloween costumes that say "WARNING: This costume does not enable you to fly!"

[Twinkie]

Sweetie - I know you all loved John Kerry and John Edwards
as much as we love the President and Vice President, and
I know you are disappointed. That is life, for you, and
for us all.

I can remember being SICK when Clinton was elected the
second time. Clinton thrice had bin Laden offered to him
on silver platters, but turned him down. Too much of
that good campaign moolah coming from terrorist groups;
and he was too busy getting sexual services in the Oval
Office furnished by the office staff. Use your head.

Then go out someplace nice and have a nice meal, quit
obsessing about this stuff and enjoy your youth while you
still have it. Believe me, 58 yrs. of age, and it amazes
me how youth flies out the window. That's why Susan
Estrich looks so bitter. She was probably always angry
at some political thing or the other, and her youth was
far too wasted on it.

[spunkets]

"Osama Bin Laden released a tape to the American people explaining why he attack New York, and how to prevent more attacks, and the government suppressed it, because made to much sense."

Right... We here at FR uncovered all that govm't suppressed stuff. Like this one here: Religion of peices honors truth and Free speech. Uncle binny's boys in action.

"the reason why Bin Laden dislikes American is simply, because we have freedom. I never bought into that line to of horseshit for one second, and anyone who has, well for you there is no hope.

Bush is right and you're wrong.

"don't be confused, I am not a terrorist."

You are an apologist for them and indeed, you probably are a terrorist. You think like one and are here on their behalf.

[Leonora]

You stupid liberals! When Clinton bombed Serbia - liberals supported him. He bombed schools, hospitals, marketplaces.. For 2 months of bombing he spent nearly $80 billion, I did not hear any of the liberals complain. Now what's the difference? Clinton bombed Serbs for nothing. Bush bombed Iraq because of terrorism, and yes, because of oil, because it is dangerous that such a resource falls into hands of terrorists.

But, I suppose for you salon liberals, it is always politically correct to bomb white Christian nation.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Your pain is my sweet, sweet nectar, dewdrop. :)

[trussell]

[weegee]

Here is some more leftist spew to step around (I post it to FR so that we are aware of the latest "War For Oil" talking points but note that I post it in a ZOT thread).

This arrived in my email today:

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Starting the fight against fascism in America
by Bob Fertik on November 3, 2004 - 2:25pm.

Americans did not vote for fascism - but the fascists now control all three branches of our government - the Presidency, Congress, and the Supreme Court.

In 1935, Sinclair Lewis warned against the rise of an American fascism in It Can't Happen Here. Well, it can - and it will, unless we stop it now.

The media - and much of the progressive Internet - is full of concessions, explanations, and blame. You should ignore it all because none of it matters. We can't wait until the 2008 election, or even 2006. We must recognize that America in 2004 is like Germany in 1933, and get to work.

We must develop a plan to stop Fascism in America.

The first rule of war is to know the enemy. What do Bush and the Fascists want?

1. Global war for oil. The evidence is now clear: Bush's conquest of Iraq was planned long before September 11. Its origin was the PNAC plan to control the world's oil by using America's military power to seize control of the world's oil-producing regions.

2. Unlimited corporate power. Bush wants to eliminate every tax on corporations, and every regulation limiting their actions. He wants to make the people of America (and the world) little more than feudal serfs, with (perhaps) the illusion of freedom - but no power to challenge the corporate lords.

3. A police state. In case the American people decide to resist .1 and .2, the "Patriot" Act was designed to give the Federal government absolute and unchecked power to watch us at every moment of the day. And if John Ashcroft simply says we have ties to "terrorism" (whatever he wants that to mean), he can send us to a "legal" CIA torture facility in an undisclosed spot on the planet where lawyers - and the Supreme Court - can't find us.

4. Elimination of all forms of government help. Bush wants the rich to pay no taxes, period. He wants working people to pay for .1, .2, and .3. That will soon leave no money for programs that help people: Social Security, education, health care, environmental protection, etc.

So how do we fight this Fascism?

Let's start with an inventory of our strengths.

1. We are not alone. 55 million Americans voted against Bush, despite a massive propaganda campaign. We have enormous support from friends of freedom around the world.

2. We can communicate. We have the Internet (including outstanding blogs and enormous e-mail lists), some excellent publications and broadcast alternatives, a handful of friends in the mainstream media, and fast-growing Air America Radio.

3. We have money. Apart from George Soros, very few of us are rich. But nearly all of us have a few dollars we can spend every month fighting Fascism. In 2004 alone, we collectively raised hundreds of millions of dollars for Democratic and progressive campaigns. More importantly, we collectively earn - and spend - trillions of dollars.

With all of these assets, what can we do?

1. Protest Bush everywhere he goes. John Kerry had to concede under tremendous pressure from the media and the financial markets. But we - the 55 million Americans who voted for Kerry - do not have consider Bush a legitimate President until every vote be counted, every election crime is investigated, and every black box voting machine is audited. Until that work is complete, we truly will not know if George W. Bush won the 2004 election. In 2000, we protested the Inauguration and every Presidential visit until 9-11 because we believed Bush was not truly elected, and the facts ultimately proved Gore won Florida. We can - and should - resume our protests and continue our in-depth investigation of the 2004 election.

2. Boycott fascist funders. In October, progressive activists launched a spontaneous boycott against Sinclair Broadcasting and its advertisers. After two weeks of lost advertisers and falling stock prices, Sinclair buckled. This was a huge success, and we should now broaden this boycott to all right-wing media networks, especially FOX, ABC talk radio, Clearchannel, and NBC. We should also broaden it to the corporations whose owners contributed hundreds of millions to the Bush campaign and its 527 allies.

3. Investigate and demand prosecution for Republican corruption and crimes. Attorney General John Ashcroft is a leading fascist, but he is not the only person who can investigate and prosecute crimes. For example, Austin District Attorney Ronnie Earle is investigating fascist Tom DeLay. New York State Attorney General Elliot Spitzer has taken on huge corporations and won. The blogosphere is super at investigating complicated issues, without the need for any hierarchical structures; any determined individual can start a blog and enlist help in their effort. (We encourage you to create a blog at Democrats.com for your efforts). Working together, blog teams should go beyond raising suspicions, and actually assemble hard facts that honest prosecutors can use in court.

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Sounds like plenty of counter FReep opportunities for these scum. They think that bilionaire George Soros is on their "side" and thus an asset to the 527 movement, Republicans' 527s should be denied the rights of peaceful assembly. What F'n hypocrites.

Beware the Red Menace (commies, not Bush Country 2004).

[PigRigger]

These people are insane. Could you imagine if they had control during WWII.

[Not A Snowbird]

Bush and the right wing wacko Christian right rule this country

Yeah... Ain't life grand?

[Cubs Fan]

Can anyone tell the difference between Osama's tape and DNC talking points?