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Vote to ban gay marriage "Not a mandate" says Oregon activist.
11/3/04 | Me

Posted on 11/03/2004 1:43:00 PM PST by Splatter

The delusion continues. I heard an opponent to Oregon's same sex marriage "ban", (Not really a ban. Defined marriage: One Man One Woman) say it was "Not a mandate" because the vote was "so close". The "ban" passed by 8% in LL Oregon. If gay marriage had any chance of success, it was in Portland Or., where progressive fools rule.

Let's see, eleven states pass eleven same sex marriage bans and that is not a mandate? What would the activist community consider a mandate? Maybe mandates are accompanied by back room deals, uncivil protests and manipulation of our court system.

I would like to thank the tolerance crowd for helping President Bush win the white house. I believe their manipulation, subversion and strong arm tactics had a huge influence on this election. They managed to divide the Democrats, polarize the progressives and motivate the traditional values voters. Good Job!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: ban; mandate; marriage; samesex
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1 posted on 11/03/2004 1:43:00 PM PST by Splatter
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To: Splatter

It's only a mandate if one deciding vote by a judge mandates it. Get with it, man.


2 posted on 11/03/2004 1:44:20 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wearing BLACK Pajamas, in honor of Hanoi John)
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To: Splatter
Clinton: "The margin was small, but the mandate was clear."
3 posted on 11/03/2004 1:44:44 PM PST by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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To: Splatter
The "ban" passed by 8% in LL Oregon.

Ahem.

It has passed by 13.8% at this time.

4 posted on 11/03/2004 1:45:07 PM PST by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: Splatter

Notice they hold up ultra-liberal Oregon's results to "prove" there is no mandate. In the other states, the propositions passed with landslide results.

Actually, considering how liberal Oregon is, that the proposition passed by any significant margin (as it did) CAN be interpreted as a mandate!


5 posted on 11/03/2004 1:46:24 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide.)
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To: B Knotts
Ok. I am in not there. Just thought that the comment was searching for reason to keep pushing GM.
6 posted on 11/03/2004 1:46:59 PM PST by Splatter
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To: Splatter

Let the results sink in... and give them a chance to save face... They'll come to their senses in time...


7 posted on 11/03/2004 1:48:50 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: Splatter

It could be 100% - 0% and she would still be in that river in Ebypt, De Nile...


8 posted on 11/03/2004 1:50:22 PM PST by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Splatter

Bump!


9 posted on 11/03/2004 1:50:57 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: B Knotts

America is Finally waking UP!

Montana -- the BIG SKY State is proud to say that a marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN

NOT two men, NOT two women, not a frog, a dog and a woman, NO THANK YOU LARRY FLINT, NO THANK YOU John (Communist agent) Kerry.

We are proud Americans NOT STOOGES FOR EUROPE!
America rejects your immorality! WE will win!


10 posted on 11/03/2004 1:51:33 PM PST by GaryMontana (The future belongs to the bold, not the cowards who hide under rags (ragheads)!)
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To: Splatter

As my old 1st Sergeant used to say, "Let me tell you how it will be. You can put that entirely out of your mind."


11 posted on 11/03/2004 1:51:55 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: Splatter

Are you sure he wasn't asking for a 'man date'?


12 posted on 11/03/2004 1:52:01 PM PST by Antonello
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To: Splatter
What would the activist community consider a mandate?

When a judge gives them a win. That's a "mandate".

As Ann Coulter says, Democrats really don't believe in democracy. And on this issue in particular they hate it when it's brought to a vote.

13 posted on 11/03/2004 1:52:07 PM PST by angkor
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To: Splatter

denial is always the first stages a person goes through during a crisis. here is to hoping that you stay in the denial for a long, long time


14 posted on 11/03/2004 1:53:25 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: FredZarguna
I think the worst thing is they are hurting their cause by forcing change. I also believe same sex marriage had a huge influence on the election results. Remember the "Chaney has a gay daughter" remark?
15 posted on 11/03/2004 1:53:26 PM PST by Splatter
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To: Splatter

I heard a similar activist who also pointed that historically the U.S. has had a "patchwork" of laws on various social issues (like abortion) until the Supreme Court brings all the states into uniformity and that in time that is what would happen to bring the equality and freedom of gay marriage into civil rights reality.

I'm paraphrasing him, but they plan to litigate what they can't get from the electorate.

We need a federal constitutional ammendment and to remove it from the jurisdiction of the courts both!


16 posted on 11/03/2004 1:53:53 PM PST by Valpal1 (The constitution is going to be amended, the only question is by whom?)
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To: Valpal1
They are taking straight /gay relations back a decade with their tolerance mantra.
17 posted on 11/03/2004 1:55:38 PM PST by Splatter
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To: Splatter

Michigan says they're taking it to Supreme Court. They think it's unconstitutional...


18 posted on 11/03/2004 1:57:52 PM PST by queenkathy
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To: Splatter
Well, I think it's very telling that here in Oregon, where the gay lobby focused all their money and efforts, they still lost by roughly 14%.

Oregon is not as liberal as they thought.

Naturally, they are going to try to overturn the will of the people in the courts, but I think this measure is pretty bulletproof.

19 posted on 11/03/2004 1:58:34 PM PST by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: B Knotts

I agree.

I guess that it's only a mandate when it's what THEY want.

Just like you're disenfranchised if they don't LISTEN to you, and "give you what you want" (focus on "give") - quote from now-famous P. diddy "I'm disenfranchised" speech...


20 posted on 11/03/2004 2:01:02 PM PST by mumzie (www.combatvetsagainstkerry.com)
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