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John Kerry's 'born-gay' science: Caleb Price debunks inborn homosexuality myth
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, October 29, 2004 | Caleb Price

Posted on 10/29/2004 5:59:13 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Friday, October 29, 2004



John Kerry's 'born-gay' science

Posted: October 29, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: The media's made a big deal over John Kerry's statement in the last presidential debate that Dick Cheney's daughter is a lesbian. What was overlooked, though, was his contention that homosexuality is an inborn condition – a distortion Focus on the Family Homosexuality and Gender Analyst Caleb H. Price refutes in this commentary.

By Caleb H. Price


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

It was bound to happen eventually. Before an audience of 51 million during the final presidential debate, John Kerry trumpeted the cultural myth that homosexuality is inborn and immutable. Flying in the face of the facts, he misled the public by declaring, "If you talk to anybody, it's not a choice." No doubt this assertion pleased gay activists seeking credibility for the view that homosexuality is normative and should be embraced by society.

However, for a man known for his faith in science and attention to nuance, Kerry has ignored the best data. He also hasn't talked to any ex-gays. The truth is that "nature vs. nurture" in sexual orientation is far from settled.

As someone who self-identified as gay for 14 years, I, too, struggled mightily with this issue. Like many homosexuals, I knew that I had not consciously "chosen" my feelings of attraction to the same sex. In the '80s, I remember having long conversations with my gay friends pondering the origins of our homosexuality. We concluded there were reasons we experienced homosexual feelings – we were trying to somehow bond with the same sex because we had poor relationships with our fathers, had been rejected by same-sex peers, had domineering mothers, had been sexually molested, or some combination thereof.

Looking back, I'm amazed at the clarity we had on the issue. But then, in the early-'90s, something amazing happened: The media reported that a "gay gene" had been identified. Gay people everywhere were thrilled and relieved. I remember sharing this with my father: "See, Dad, I was born this way!"

Indeed, several studies were reported in succession: Simon LeVay highlighted subtle hypothalamus differences in the brains of gay and straight cadavers; Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard studied twins and concluded that homosexuality is substantially genetic; and Dean Hamer looked at a marker on the X chromosome and speculated that at least one subtype of male homosexuality is genetically influenced.

Like countless others who were encouraged by these "scientific" assurances that homosexuality was our destiny, I decided to embrace "who I really was" and be proud. I joined a gay church, went to a gay gym, lived in a gay neighborhood, participated in gay bowling leagues, went to the Gay Games as an athlete, and attended every Pride Parade that rolled through town. Although I never found Mr. Right, I was well adjusted and happy – with good friends, a great job, and a nice condo.

I also witnessed firsthand the undeniable and deadly consequences of homosexuality: high levels of sexually transmitted diseases including HIV-AIDS, drug and alcohol abuse, promiscuity, domestic violence and depression.

It wasn't until 1999 – when I began the journey out of my gay identity following a profound spiritual experience – that I began to seriously question the idea that I had been "born gay." I found that there was an increasing body of research indicating that people can and do change their sexual orientation. I learned that there is no consensus even within the gay community about "nature vs. nurture" and that many gays and lesbians continue to adamantly defend "choice" as the critical factor in the development of sexual identity.

Furthermore, I discovered there are significant methodological weaknesses with every single study claiming a genetic link to homosexuality and that the conclusions reached by the researchers were simply not supported by the data. Even the American Psychiatric Association in 2000 confirmed there are no replicated studies supporting any specific biological origin for homosexuality. In sum, the current consensus in the scientific community is that homosexuality is likely caused by a complex interaction of biological, psychological and social factors.

Despite these facts, however, we have seen dramatic shifts in public opinion on homosexuality since the mid-'90s. Thanks to the largely unchallenged and unrelenting promotion of the "born gay" view in newspapers, television and Hollywood, more Americans are coming to support "civil rights" for gays. I suspect this has been the progression in John Kerry's mind as well.

Because of his faith in the notion that homosexuality is inborn, he has pledged to remove the ban on gays in the military, to pass "hate crimes" legislation, and to appoint Supreme Court judges who will fight for "equality" and oppose discrimination against gay couples. Ultimately, Kerry will support same-sex marriage, too, because this position inevitably flows from the belief that homosexuality is inborn and unchangeable.

Given such sweeping implications, it is imperative that Kerry and other policymakers get the facts straight before trumpeting the gay party line and embarking upon radical social overhaul. The myth that people are "born gay" and left without choices betrays both the scientific facts and the personal experience of ex-gays like me. Indeed, my very existence proves that change.




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1 posted on 10/29/2004 5:59:13 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2

Homersexuality is a behavior!!!!!!!


2 posted on 10/29/2004 6:07:41 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: JohnHuang2
I can remember similar controversies over the extent to which alcoholism was an inherent weakness versus a matter of just making wrong choices. Different people cite evidence on each side, and I don't doubt that the causes are influenced by genetic make-up, environment, and personal choices. Trying to understand this mix might be helpful in helping the alcoholic free himself or herself from excessive drinking, but proving that alcoholism was entirely an inherited condition still wouldn't make it normal, natural, or healthy.

The strongest societies are those in which the basic unit of society is the traditional family. We shouldn't persecute those who are not in families. There can be many valid reasons for someone not to be in a family, and a homosexual shouldn't try to fake a normal life by marrying when he or she doesn't really want a heterosexual relationship. However, we shouldn't pretend that all other relationships are just as valid as the traditional marriage.

Bill

3 posted on 10/29/2004 6:16:55 AM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: JohnHuang2
I forget were I heard this one but here it goes

If it was a choice then Kerry would still be making up his mind.

4 posted on 10/29/2004 6:17:59 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Everyone calm down, Ohio is still Bush country)
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To: JohnHuang2
In the '80s, I remember having long conversations with my gay friends pondering the origins of our homosexuality. We concluded there were reasons we experienced homosexual feelings – we were trying to somehow bond with the same sex because we had poor relationships with our fathers, had been rejected by same-sex peers, had domineering mothers, had been sexually molested, or some combination thereof

It is good to see at least some homosexuals recognize the realities of their behavior... it is not based in genetics, but their desire to be accepted by men. (The domineering mother/lousy relationship or no father) Or by being predatorized by a homosexual in their youth.

This is the reality of it folks, its not rocket science. Before the Gay lobby got into the Psychiatric fields and undermined the science it was pretty much accepted and understood that these are the 2 almost universal foundations of Homosexuality. There may be some small numbers of fringe cases that do not fit into these 2 categories, but the overwhelming majority do.

Homosexuality is a behavior.

5 posted on 10/29/2004 6:23:40 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: JohnHuang2

If one has no choice, than why are there many cases where homos turn hetero?


6 posted on 10/29/2004 6:52:16 AM PDT by lormand (Dead People Vote DemocRAT)
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To: HamiltonJay
It is good to see at least some homosexuals recognize the realities of their behavior... it is not based in genetics,

They even admit that, read Biology My Ass.

7 posted on 10/29/2004 6:56:14 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: PeterPrinciple
Homersexuality (sic) is a behavior!!!!!!!

I believe the terminology should be Homophilia for the preference, and Homosexuality for the behaviour.

8 posted on 10/29/2004 6:57:39 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Gondring

John Kerry said that Dick Cheney's daughter is a Lesbian. Dick Cheney's Lesbian daughter works for Coors. John Kerry won't drink a Coors Beer. HMMMMMMM.....


9 posted on 10/29/2004 7:09:37 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: lormand

Bingo.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 7:19:04 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: dubyaismypresident

LOL!


11 posted on 10/29/2004 7:19:27 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2; PeterPrinciple; WFTR; HamiltonJay; Clint N. Suhks; lormand
One of the most amusing things I've ever seen was at a lecture that Penn State sponsored for "Healthy Loving Week" (sic), where the university paid to bring in a homosexual activist to speak, and I was reporting on the event. The speaker's main point was that he had "no choice" in the matter, that he had not wanted to be homosexual ("homophilic," he meant) but he just *was* that way.

Well, in the question/answer period, he was verbally assaulted by a group of lesbians who were outraged that he would not say it was his choice. You see, they were proud that they had chosen to shun men [those Womyn Studies courses were working well!], and thought he was doing a disservice to homosexuals by insisting it wasn't a choice!

Note that "Biology, My Ass" (cited above) mainly addresses women (though it does say "It is my suspicion that similar forces operate for gay men."), and there actually might be a difference in the populations of male versus female self-proclaimed homosexuals--otherwise, how are Womyn Studies programs so effective at recruiting lesbians from classes of confused freshman?

One thing I recall from the 80's at an Ivy League school I was attending was the transition from "It's a choice--it's our RIGHT to do what we want" to "It's not our choice--we can't help it--we're victims!" What made the change occur? The spread of a four-letter word: AIDS.

12 posted on 10/29/2004 7:26:19 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: dubyaismypresident
If it was a choice then Kerry would still be making up his mind

...and what, be a metrosexual?

13 posted on 10/29/2004 7:27:40 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Gondring
though it does say "It is my suspicion that similar forces operate for gay men."

It would be silly to assume that clinical perversion is gender specific, the axiom of common sense should prove the obvious.

14 posted on 10/29/2004 7:55:58 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: little jeremiah; scripter

new sodomy thread


15 posted on 10/29/2004 7:58:23 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; EdReform; backhoe; Yehuda; saradippity; stage left; Yakboy; I_Love_My_Husband; ...
Thanks for the ping, Clint. This is a great article - anything that discusses former homosexuals is a must read, IMO.

Everybody - little jeremiah's computer finally died, so please ping me to new articles and I'll ping everybody else.

Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)
Homosexual Keyword Search

Let me know if you want on or off the homosexual agenda ping list.

16 posted on 10/29/2004 8:48:02 AM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: JohnHuang2

If you're born with it...look at the study that looks at identical twins. Same dna. One has blue eyes...the other has blue eyes. One has brown hair...the other has brown hair. One like to smoke poles...logically...the other would want to smoke poles.

In the studies that have come out, despite there being a higher propensity for both twins to be gay...it's nowhere near 100%.


17 posted on 10/29/2004 8:51:37 AM PDT by jamz
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To: Clint N. Suhks
It would be silly to assume that clinical perversion is gender specific, the axiom of common sense should prove the obvious.

This is a tired old Liberal argument that has been shattered long ago. The sexes are far more different than the Left has been trying to make people believe, and even Time and Newsweek admit it now. Heck, Newsweek now even admits the "10% homosexuality rate" is bogus! Clearly there are possible differences, both biological and socio-environmental, that could create differences by gender in the composition of the homosexual populations.

Another interesting point in the "nature versus nurture" argument is the recent revelations (at, for instance, Emory University) that women suffering from Post-Traumatic Stress have actual, measurable, physical differences in their brain chemistry...indicating that even if dissected homosexual cadaver show brain differences from heterosexual cadavers, the difference isn't necessarily congenital. That is, it's been determined that our brains DO change during our lives, based on our thoughts and experiences.

18 posted on 10/29/2004 10:19:27 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Gondring
That is, it's been determined that our brains DO change during our lives, based on our thoughts and experiences.

That's it, exactly.

19 posted on 10/29/2004 10:44:31 AM PDT by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Gondring
homosexual cadaver show brain differences from heterosexual cadavers

The Kverner study measures hypothalamus size and concludes that homosexual hypothalamus size in men fell in the upper range of women’s. The problem with that is the upper range of women’s hypothalamus size falls in the lower range of men’s sizes naturally which neither precludes homosexual pathology nor heterosexual behavior.

20 posted on 10/29/2004 10:45:45 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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