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Vanity: How Much Will Voter Fraud Matter? Is the Fix In?

Posted on 10/19/2004 10:22:41 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

OK, here's my fear: I am up late on election night, and state after state that was considered a swing state falls for Kerry. After much attention to this race we all know that the fix was in, and that Kerry has stolen the election. What do we do? Does anyone else think Kerry has the fix lined up? Am I paranoid? Should I fear the fix?


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I am very concerned that massive voter fraud will turn this election. Any comfort out there?

Patriot Paradox

1 posted on 10/19/2004 10:22:41 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I don't know about anybody else, but I have the same fear. The d**m fools who are voting for him will find out the hard way what will happen. By then it maybe too late.
2 posted on 10/19/2004 10:27:53 PM PDT by greatgranny (I was raised not to hate, but I do. I HATE these whiners, rats, kerry, etc.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Suggest you volunteer to work at Bush/Cheney
in your locale. Doing SOMETHING beats the heck
out of hand wringing.

We are ALL worried and concerned.


3 posted on 10/19/2004 10:28:19 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

You are not alone. It is a deep concern and I have no idea what we can do except for volunteer to work at the voting locations or become watchers.


4 posted on 10/19/2004 10:29:08 PM PDT by PlushieWithTeeth
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To: onyx

I was wondering, does FR do anything special on election night? Any special threads, or do we all just sit around watching the returns, fretting, and randomly posting here?


5 posted on 10/19/2004 10:29:52 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: PlushieWithTeeth

I feel a little helpless here in Idaho in that I know Idaho is in the bag for Bush.


6 posted on 10/19/2004 10:30:43 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

If the kerry camp had the fix than they would not still be trying to hire massive amount of lawyers who today on fox said that regardless they have been instructed to take the matters to court(this is of course the truth minus their spin). We alsow wouldn't have learned about the troll playbook to cry about abuse/not being able to vote. Kerry's attacks are way to personal and in the gutter for him to have a fix. In the end the supreme court may have to step in agian but we know how they will go.

Democrats are scared sh**less to see it and hear it all you have to do is listen closely to their actions and deduce as to why they have taken those measures.


7 posted on 10/19/2004 10:31:04 PM PDT by Vortexsg (The only thing neccessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: MarkeyD

Oh we have "LIVE" threads --- one main one,
but I think we ought to have a thread for
each state!



8 posted on 10/19/2004 10:32:57 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: onyx

Ditto. To quote Huge Hewitt, if it isn't close, they can't cheat. (Make that "Hugh")


9 posted on 10/19/2004 10:33:03 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: My2Cents

Yes indeed.
Hugh is right.
Like you, I want a "bloodbath."
Nothing even CLOSE!


10 posted on 10/19/2004 10:34:33 PM PDT by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

First, contact your local Rep party.

They are always looking for people to help with GOTV efforts and poll watching. Even in states that aren't in play, your watchful eye could help a conservative get elected, or help Bush win the popular vote.

Second, mention your worry to your friends and family who don't follow politics that closely. Don't get into specifics or indepth unless they want to talk to you about it though. If it does come to something like this, your mentioning it to them ahead of time will help counteract the likely MSM spin.


11 posted on 10/19/2004 10:34:41 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (Democrats and free speech are like oil and water)
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To: onyx

Since the Clintons, the Democrats have proven to be nothing but a criminal enterprise. With this election cycle, they've branched out to become brownshirted goons. I say pound them into dust, and sweep them onto the ash heap of history.


12 posted on 10/19/2004 10:36:22 PM PDT by My2Cents (http://www.conservativesforbush.com)
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To: MarkeyD
We all chatted last time on Yahoo. Long freaking night!

Patriot Paradox

14 posted on 10/19/2004 10:40:05 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000 ("If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Vortexsg
I am in Nevada. We almost matched the Democrats in new registrations. The difference--I'll bet almost all new Republicans will vote--while the newly registered Democrats will vote in lesser numbers. Nevada will go for Bush by 2 to 5 per cent and the vote will not be challenged because the system is solid. They can actually pull up any provisional voter's registration by computer with the signature right there on the screen. Very few provisional voters will get to vote twice, they will all be checked for fraud. The media will sit on Nevada if it is close on the electoral votes, but I know many Democrats who just can't vote for Kerry. We have a lot of "Mormoncrats" and they will vote Republican based on the moral issues.
15 posted on 10/19/2004 10:40:28 PM PDT by charleston1 (No prisoners.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

MVF is my bigges fear of the election. But I've recently started to think it may not be as bad as we are fearing come election day. Why?

Thinking of all the stories of people paid to register new voters. The guy paid with crack in ohio. The other guy out wset registering 25 or 30 names for $2 each. Now compare that with all the other stories of massive new registrations in swing states.

Simply put, I think these soros funded groups got screwed big time by a bunch of loafers who made up names and voters to make a quick buck. There will be hope of new voters on the dem side, but few actual real voters going to the polls under these names.

The other problem is abesntee ballots. Depending on the states, these can be a big instrument of vote fraud. But the stories are so widespread that these are going to be scrutinized more. And people may be getting jittery about actually trying to commit fraud if they think someone is onto them.

All that's really necessary is an announcement from all local federal prosecutors that all allegations of voter fraud in a federal election will be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The idiots may call this intimidation. And they'd be right- it's intimidating the cheaters.

Now we get to the last part of the equation: Perception. If the polls continue to pull away towards GWB (and I think they will - big time) then these same people may think it's not worth the risk to expose themselves in a losing effort. Also, word may come from above to hold back this time, because the people at the top actually want hillary in 2008 more than they want kerry in 2004.

The direction of the polls have me optimistic once again and I'm back to seeing a 55 toi 57% bush win, pre vote fraud.


16 posted on 10/19/2004 10:46:26 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: sonsofliberty2000

I bet, I was up until 5am and then fretted for the 42 or so days it took to get resolved.


17 posted on 10/19/2004 10:46:34 PM PDT by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com>Maggot</a>)
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To: sonsofliberty2000

I am very afraid and posted this;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1238534/posts

a couple of weeks ago. It is about why the Democrats do not care about the polls or debates. They have been working on this election for 4 years.

Then a few days ago Drudge posted parts of the DNC campaign manual on his site.

This will be one messy election.


18 posted on 10/19/2004 10:48:40 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: sonsofliberty2000
Put on a bumper sticker to "educate" a few:


19 posted on 10/19/2004 10:48:41 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: sonsofliberty2000

Here's a thought on this ...

If there was an upsurge in Demo operators planning to
multiple-vote, some of them would squeal (or actually
be GOP or law-enforcement plants). We're not hearing
anything.

Would we hear? Yes. We are hearing about the registration
scams. Are they troubling? Yes, but. They seem to be
mostly workers scamming the sponsor for per-reg payments.
Yes, some GOP regs have been trashed, but the numbers
may be small.

Nonetheless, you can do things.

Start by protecting your own vote. Vote early, and
in person.

If you live in a swing state, volunteer.


20 posted on 10/19/2004 10:49:10 PM PDT by Boundless (Was your voter registration sabotaged by ACORN? Don't find out Nov. 2. Vote early.)
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