Posted on 10/10/2004 4:54:33 AM PDT by HubCon4
For those of you in the “vast right wing conspiracy” who seem to believe that the liberal establishment in America bears some resemblance to the muslim fascist terrorists, let me point out just a few differences between the training of young people in America's public schools and the Saudi Madrasas where muslim fascism is part and parcel of the school agenda.
Subject: America Liberal Madrasas (formerly referred to as the American Public School System): America is the root of all evil in the world today. Saudi Madrasas: America is the root of all evil in the world today.
Subject: 9/11 Liberal Madrasas: 9/11 was America's fault. Saudi Madrasas: 9/11 was America's fault.
Subject: Iraq (#1): Liberal Madrasas: America should have never attacked Iraq. Saudi Madrasas: America should have never attacked Iraq.
Subject: Iraq (#2): Liberal Madrasas: The beheadings in Iraq are America's fault and we will show them to children to impress upon them the price of America's wickedness. Saudi Madrasas: The beheadings in Iraq are America's fault and we will show them to children to impress upon them the price of America's wickedness.
Subject: Morality Liberal Madrasas: The children of America are being raised by their parents in a moral belief system that is bad for them, and we will change that belief system for them even if by force for their own good. Saudi Madrasas: The children of America are being raised by their parents in a moral belief system that is bad for them, and we will change that belief system for them even if by force for their own good.
Subject: Judeo-Christian Influence Liberal Madrasas: The influence of Jewish and Christian morality in the American culture must be eliminated. Saudi Madrasas: The influence of Jewish and Christian morality in the American culture must be eliminated.
Subject: The Koran Liberal Madrasas: The reading of the Koran can be required of American children while the reading of the Bible shall be prohibited. Saudi Madrasas: The reading of the Koran can be required of American children while the reading of the Bible shall be prohibited.
Oh...guess I was wrong. There really is no difference.
Care to cite any proof of all this, or should we just take your word for it, O Imam?
The Saudi Madrasas wish to impose their version of Islam on America. The Liberal Madrasas wish to impose socialism.
Reply:
1. Beheading
The public school system creates an environment where the airing of the beheading of Nick Berg is possible. We are all aware of the public school teachers from New Jersey to California who showed the video to their classmates. I tried a Google search for Judaeo-Christian private schools whose teachers showed the video and found none (please let me know if you do find one). The El Capitan high school teacher declared to his students “That's why we should not be at war.” The America bashing and the resulting “America as the root of all evil” philosophy that is so prevalent among the liberal education establishment lends itself to this type of extremely poor judgement.
2.Koran reading in school
Federal Judge Phyllis Hamilton ruled in favor of public school students memorizing and reciting prayers to Allah, the same words pronounced over Paul Johnson and Nick Berg as they were beheaded. Please cite one example where a contemporary federal judge permitted the memorization and recitation of “Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has bestowed on us in Christ, every spiritual blessing in the heavens.”
3.Morality and Politics
Public school institutions encourage a morality in our nation's children that is not acceptable to most Jewish and Christian parents. An acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle is encouraged: children in my school district cannot even make any statement opposing the homosexual lifestyle on school grounds without risk of expulsion. I am not speaking here of bashing homosexuals: simply opposing the lifestyle. But positive talk of that lifestyle is encouraged and praised as “tolerance”. Speaking against the homosexual lifestyle on school grounds is considered a hate crime, but bullying is not. The attitude toward sex and abortion in the public school system is far more liberal than the children encounter in church and at home. So parents and pastors spend much time fighting that influence. It is no mistake that most public school students graduate as “good little liberals”: conservative politics are disdained. In our district four years ago, one small child came home crying because her parents were going to vote for Bush and the teacher said that if the parents vote for Bush, all of the animals and trees will die.
You might live to see it; if you are not killed in an atomic blast on a continental US target. - Tom
Incidentally, are you arguing (item 3) that Madrassas are a hotbed of gay rights? Somehow, I don't think they are.
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