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To Our Readers (and Writers) (WA Post editorial about Democrat email spin)
Washington Post ^ | 10/2/04

Posted on 10/03/2004 9:22:14 AM PDT by lowbridge

WE RECEIVED THE following letter from a woman in Yonkers, N.Y.: "Dear editor: This debate made it clear: John Kerry is a leader we can trust to tell us the truth when it comes to our nation's security. George Bush has had his chance; I'm ready for a new direction."

Cogent, succinct, personal -- everything we look for in a letter. So why are we writing about it here, instead of publishing it in the columns to the right? Unfortunately, the letter, perfect in every other way, arrived in our electronic in-box Thursday afternoon, four hours and 14 minutes before debate moderator Jim Lehrer posed his first question.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004debates; 2004electionbias; brownshirtsforkerry; debates; democratvoters; dncemail; du; duinthenews; emails; freepthispoll; howtostealanelection; kerrycampaign; lyingliars; mediabias; mobysmarchingmorons; onlineactivism; onlinepolls; propaganda; spin; usefulidiots; washingtonpost; wp
In case you don't want to register to read the entire editorial:

http://www.bugmenot.com

1 posted on 10/03/2004 9:22:15 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
And of course the DUmmies are up in arms about this editorial:

Wash.Post condemns DU Activists in editorial

2 posted on 10/03/2004 9:23:31 AM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: lowbridge

good for them!


3 posted on 10/03/2004 9:25:05 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: lowbridge
Bug me not never helps.

Amazing the Wash Post is admitting, and writing about,this.

I guess they know it would get out without them.

The question is, how many other papers printed the same variation? I'm sure more than just the ComPost received these seminar letters.

4 posted on 10/03/2004 9:26:09 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: lowbridge

Score one for the Washington Post.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 9:27:32 AM PDT by kesg
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To: lowbridge
And we especially like to hear from readers who can think and write for themselves.

BREAKING: WASHINTON POSTS MOCKS DU.

6 posted on 10/03/2004 9:27:48 AM PDT by Drango (NPR-When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: lowbridge
Unfortunately, the letter, perfect in every other way, arrived in our electronic in-box Thursday afternoon, four hours and 14 minutes before debate moderator Jim Lehrer posed his first question.

This is the real story about all those polls taken immediately after the debate. The DNC cooked the polls, as usual. Maybe I missed it, but I saw and heard very little coverage on it. It helps to negate all those "Kerry won the debate polls".

7 posted on 10/03/2004 9:30:42 AM PDT by sarasotarepublican
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To: lowbridge

Sweet.


8 posted on 10/03/2004 9:30:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The economy won't matter if you're dead.)
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To: lowbridge; All

The punchline: "[O]ur goal is to present a sampling of genuine reader opinion, not to become one more battlefield in the spin wars raging all around. And we especially like to hear from readers who can think and write for themselves."

Good on 'em! I imagine many in the media are now afraid of being the next Dan Rather.


9 posted on 10/03/2004 9:32:45 AM PDT by jocon307 (Exuding grim purpose and resolve since 1958)
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To: lowbridge

A similar story in the Chicago Tribune by Michael Tackett:

Democrats don't fool anyone in post-debate e-mail punditry

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/perspective/chi-0410030319oct03,1,1685545.story?coll=chi-newsopinionperspective-hed


10 posted on 10/03/2004 9:35:53 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: tallhappy
Bug me not never helps.

Oddly enought BugMeNot only works for me with the comPost. It even remembers me every time. BugMeNot hasn't worked for me on any other newspaper website.

11 posted on 10/03/2004 9:37:45 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: An American In Dairyland
Bugmenot works a day or two at the NYSlime and then they get wise to a thousand readers all registered as "Biteme"
12 posted on 10/03/2004 9:39:15 AM PDT by Drango (NPR-When government funds a "news" outlet that has a bias...it's no longer news...it's propaganda.)
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To: lowbridge

thanks for the login link.

It seems to me the Washpost is being honest.
They didn't have to mention any of the tactics being used by the dnc. Maybe they're not as partisan as the nyt or the lat.


13 posted on 10/03/2004 9:39:49 AM PDT by concretebob (Honor a Veteran...Vote on 2 November)
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To: concretebob
They didn't have to mention any of the tactics being used by the dnc. Maybe they're not as partisan as the nyt or the lat.

No.

More aware of the danger of being shown to be pulling transparent scams a la Rather and CBS.

14 posted on 10/03/2004 9:43:54 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: concretebob

They don't call it the comPost for nothing.


15 posted on 10/03/2004 9:49:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: tallhappy
email address: fedup@mailinator.com

PW: fedup

16 posted on 10/03/2004 10:04:02 AM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: gilliam
good for them!

You took the words right out of my mouth!

17 posted on 10/03/2004 10:06:36 AM PDT by maryz
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To: lowbridge

When I worked for a local newspaper in New Jersey, we got letters with the SAME PHRASES IN CAPITAL LETTERS always making exactly the same points. Never got one from a Republican. We never printed them.


18 posted on 10/03/2004 10:07:09 AM PDT by MoralSense
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To: Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

Not an indictment of the Washington Post, just a curious question as to why they waited for days to announce the DNC's email when FReepers knew of it BEFORE the debate?

19 posted on 10/03/2004 10:23:13 AM PDT by weegee (What's the provenance, Kenneth? Where did the forged SeeBS memo come from?)
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To: lowbridge
And of course the DUmmies are up in arms about this editorial: Wash.Post condemns DU Activists in editorial

LOL. You have to be a real DUmmy to send an email to the editor critiquing a debate before the debate even begins.

20 posted on 10/03/2004 10:24:46 AM PDT by alnick (US forces armed with what? Spitballs??)
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To: weegee
Related thread:

Democrats don't fool anyone in post-debate e-mail punditry (Chicago Tribune Editorial)

21 posted on 10/03/2004 10:29:05 AM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: tallhappy
sometimes a Freeping is not the answer, so we must learn from their failures.

- finally the Left media is getting their heads handed to them by the left politician. The Post thought only the right was difficult now they see what we have seen in spades because we deal with not only the RAT politican and gov. worker but also their paper of record.

22 posted on 10/03/2004 10:29:41 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: weegee
Not an indictment of the Washington Post, just a curious question as to why they waited for days to announce the DNC's email when FReepers knew of it BEFORE the debate?

It took them days because it was days before they knew others knew about it.

23 posted on 10/03/2004 10:31:52 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy; Silverback

That email that silverback posted the day of the debate was sent to several online blogs, and they probably sent it to the newspapers for Sunday analysis.


24 posted on 10/03/2004 10:32:22 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
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To: lowbridge

Hahaha...someone pushed 'send' too soon. :)


25 posted on 10/03/2004 10:33:17 AM PDT by IamHD
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To: lowbridge
See this post from Thursday night...The Spin Email is out (But didn't the head DIM say it was a draw?)
26 posted on 10/03/2004 10:56:04 AM PDT by jellybean (All my posts are forgeries...)
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To: lowbridge
And we especially like to hear from readers who can think and write for themselves.

SMACK!

Better put some ice on that, DUers!
27 posted on 10/03/2004 11:28:55 AM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Calvinism Fever: Catch It! (Or don't. It's not like it's going to do you any good anyway...))
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To: lowbridge
different DU thread, same article:

WP editors scold Dem readers for debate letters, emails to Post

28 posted on 10/03/2004 11:34:30 AM PDT by lowbridge (I wouldn't want to be a liberals caps lock key on election day)
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To: lowbridge

I read the whole editorial. Remarkable, coming from the Washington Post. There may be a slight glimmer of hope for them yet.


29 posted on 10/03/2004 11:42:49 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: lowbridge

Marvelous!

I think several of us should learn from this example and
signup for email alerts from the DNC and other left wing
extremist groups

Then, when they ask us to DUmp on someone's email box,
we do so like this woman...

(but also conveniently 'forget' to delete the original message from the DNC below the body of your own letter)


30 posted on 10/03/2004 12:22:43 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: lowbridge; jmstein7; tallhappy; alnick; Silverback; mabelkitty; q_an_a; jellybean; libstripper; ...

In fact, WHENEVER we seeBS an e-mail call to arms...

DISTRIBUTE THE ORIGINAL EMAIL HERE to more freepers...

THEN write a pithy but unconvincing argument IN THEIR FAVOR
but include their discrediting 'call to arms' email below yours.

(I'd call it a REVERSE-FREEP)


31 posted on 10/03/2004 12:37:48 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
but also conveniently 'forget' to delete the original message from the DNC below the body of your own letter

LOL!! That is precisely what I'm doing :)

Now pardon me while I sing to the choir...

32 posted on 10/03/2004 12:54:32 PM PDT by upchuck (Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.)
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To: sarasotarepublican

Now, if they will report on the fact that Commy Kerry used cheat notes during the debate. Don't count on it.


33 posted on 10/03/2004 12:58:01 PM PDT by John D
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To: tallhappy

There's 2 other threads about 2 other papers also receiving similar letters.

Also a couple of days ago, somebody wrote an article about the DNC's letter telling people to flood the media with emails .. and said, "That was not a good idea for the DNC to publish that info.

Hmmmm? Is the media getting a sense they are being manipulated ..?? That will be a first!


34 posted on 10/03/2004 3:25:25 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Sen.Miller said, "Bush is a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel")
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To: An American In Dairyland
Bugmenot always works for me.

Are you using Explorer or Fire-Fox as a browser? Fire-Fox also remembers all login passwords.

35 posted on 10/03/2004 3:32:20 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: tallhappy
Bug me not never helps.

Plug the title into Google News.

36 posted on 10/03/2004 6:45:41 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: tallhappy
I guess they know it would get out without them.

Prolly hired an intern to monitor the New Media and give a heads-up on stuff...

37 posted on 10/03/2004 8:53:26 PM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: tallhappy

the debate was Thursday night, this editorial was Saturday, so for a newspaper that's a pretty quick editorial response ... I'm shocked at the Washington Post and Chicago Tribune, to be honest .. whodathunkit?


38 posted on 10/03/2004 9:40:18 PM PDT by EDINVA (a FReeper in PJ's beats a CBS anchor in a suit every time)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Hey, that works, thanks!


39 posted on 10/04/2004 7:56:28 AM PDT by agrace (Funny how socialist leaders never actually practice it themselves.)
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