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A sure way to get Kerry to sign form 180 before the American people

Posted on 10/02/2004 2:33:21 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver

Why didn't the Prez when the moderator asked him if there was anything about his opponents (I forget the word he used) moral character, etc.....reply: "Not per se, but my opponent and the party he represents has made numerous accusations about my National Guard Service as a Fighter Pilot, all which have proven to be false. In light my signing a form 180 that released all my Military records to refudiate those accusations I would request that my opponent do likewise.

As a matter of fact I just happen to have the appropriate from 180 here for the good Senator's signature so he can sign it before the American people tonight....


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1 posted on 10/02/2004 2:33:21 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

If someone can go to the Town Hall debate, and hand out a copy of Form-180 to every single one of the "independants", then I'm sure one of them will ask Kerry the question.


2 posted on 10/02/2004 3:13:00 AM PDT by igoramus987
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

The next debate will be townhall format. Jim Lehrer didn't ask John Kerry how can he be a better commander-in-chief based upon his two decades in the U.S. senate. I hope the next moderator or anyone in the audience will ask him this question.

John Kerry has voted against most military pay raises, voted against new housing for our troops and their families, and as far back as 1994 Kerry voted to practically "gut" defense and spending for intelligence. Kerry voted against the B-1 bomber, the B-2 Stealth Bomber, the F-14, the F-15, the F-16, the AV-8B Harrier VTOL, the AH-64 Apache Helicopter, the Patriot Missle, the Aegis Air Defense Cruiser, the Trident Missle Systems for U.S. Submarines, the M-1 Abram Tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicles and the Tomahawk Cruise Missle.

He just said in the debate that if he is elected to be the next commander-in-chief, he will stop the development of the bunker buster nuclear tip missle.


3 posted on 10/02/2004 3:32:52 AM PDT by sneaky_goofy
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

The next debate will be townhall format. Jim Lehrer didn't ask John Kerry how can he be a better commander-in-chief based upon his two decades in the U.S. senate. I hope the next moderator or anyone in the audience will ask him this question.

John Kerry has voted against most military pay raises, voted against new housing for our troops and their families, and as far back as 1994 Kerry voted to practically "gut" defense and spending for intelligence. Kerry voted against the B-1 bomber, the B-2 Stealth Bomber, the F-14, the F-15, the F-16, the AV-8B Harrier VTOL, the AH-64 Apache Helicopter, the Patriot Missle, the Aegis Air Defense Cruiser, the Trident Missle Systems for U.S. Submarines, the M-1 Abram Tank, the Bradley Fighting Vehicles and the Tomahawk Cruise Missle.

He just said in the debate that if he is elected to be the next commander-in-chief, he will stop the development of the bunker buster nuclear tip missle.


4 posted on 10/02/2004 3:33:57 AM PDT by sneaky_goofy
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
This situation started as no different than Bill Clinton's refusal to reveal his medical records. Damage was done simply by his not fully disclosing them as per customary presidential politics. We all surmise the reasoning is he had something to hide. Speculations abound from past drug use to venereal diseases.

Kerry's team has escalated the predicament further and inflicted more damage to his position because he's lied about it. His campaign and Kerry himself has repeatedly claimed they have released his military records.

Kerry knows this is a lie and the public knows it’s a lie.

Its best to keep this issue open rather than Kerry actually signing form 180. Remember, the cover-up is more damaging than the crime. Whatever is in his record could potentially garner sympathetic acceptance as a youthful indiscretion.

We don’t want that!

5 posted on 10/02/2004 6:14:24 AM PDT by QwertyKPH
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

It's totally inappropriate for Bush to do so. If you don't know or realize that or why then you need to retake "Politics 101"


6 posted on 10/02/2004 11:50:35 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
To: RVN Airplane Driver

From: Bush campaign, grammar and syntax division

Re: refudiate.

Thank you for your excellent submission.

However, we are not accepting entries at this time.

We feel that the President does a fine job of inventing his own malapropisms and the assistance of others is not currently needed.

Do not be discouraged by the fact that your entry was not accepted.

Your submission does have that double-entendre W authenticity in much the same way that "misunderestimated" does.

Please feel free to give us a call at the email address listed below.

Sincerely,

7 posted on 10/02/2004 11:58:44 AM PDT by George Smiley (The only 180 that Kerry hasn't done is the one that would release ALL his military records.)
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To: sneaky_goofy
Or ask, "Senator Kerry, you seldom refer to your decades in the US Senate, and all that gets mentioned about your time there are your votes against the military and gun owners and your trips to support Communist regimes. What the heck did you do since Vietnam that was positive? I mean, you were being paid by US taxpayers, and I'm sure that if they had someone in their employ for 20 years, they'd expect something worthwhile in return--why should they not fire your butt?"
8 posted on 10/02/2004 11:59:32 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Probably because the president:

(a) was ahead in the polls, and therefore planned a more conservative approach (let's hope he doesn't lose the game like a football team using a "Prevent" defense when ahead),

(b) wanted to project a more likeable image, not looking argumentative or mean-spirited, while expressing (and hammering home) a simple message, and

(c) is an honourable man and didn't want to violate the rules of the debate, which didn't allow the candidates to question each other or to solicit a pledge of any kind, etc.

Personally, I agree with you, though, and wish he had made a few more of those comments...hitting the lack of a Senate record, etc.

9 posted on 10/02/2004 11:59:40 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

I don't know ...

A PERFET opportunity.

On the character question Bush could have said, his service from what I know is honorable but others have questions so, John why not sign form 180 and clear up any doubts.


10 posted on 10/02/2004 12:01:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

I think that would be a great idea. BUMP!


11 posted on 10/02/2004 12:02:20 PM PDT by The Real Deal (Proud member of the VRWC!)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Did you know props weren't allowed by the rules agreed to by both sides?


12 posted on 10/02/2004 12:14:01 PM PDT by ironman
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To: QwertyKPH

I totally agree now. Quit asking for Kerry's signature on a 180 and change our attack to "The reason he won't release is because he has something important to hide, his lies".


13 posted on 10/02/2004 12:34:21 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: QwertyKPH; RVN Airplane Driver
" Its best to keep this issue open rather than Kerry actually signing form 180. Remember, the cover-up is more damaging than the crime. Whatever is in his record could potentially garner sympathetic acceptance as a youthful indiscretion."

WRONG!

The military/military-medical records Kerry has withheld are immensely germane. "Youthful indiscretion" doesn't fly when there is deliberate distortion/hiding of military records and events. The SwiftVets have from the start requested Kerry to sign a SF 180 - with very good reason.

Just stating that Kerry hasn't released all his records amounts to essentially nothing. There should now be loud and clear and drumbeat moves to get him to sign the 180. And if he doesn't, then that's the pointer to his not signing it.
14 posted on 10/02/2004 1:59:38 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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