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Gary Hart criticizes polls, Bush
Lawrence Journal World ^ | September 29, 2004 | Dave Ranney, Journal-World, KS

Posted on 09/29/2004 2:39:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Hall Center lecturer criticizes polls, Bush - Humanities series to open with former U.S. senator

It's true the polls show President Bush leading Democratic challenger John Kerry.

But the polls are off, said Gary Hart, a former U.S. senator from Colorado who sought the Democratic Party's nomination for president in 1984 and 1988.

"At this point in time, they're not very accurate," he said, noting that many of his moderate Republican friends have assured him privately they'll not be voting for Bush.

"They're not going to show up in the polls," said Hart, who has advised the Kerry campaign in the past.

The military, too, is disenchanted with Bush's handling of the war in Iraq, he said.

"They're furious," Hart said. "But again, they're not going to show up in the polls."

Too close to call

Hart, who grew up in Ottawa, said the presidential race was too close to call.

"If the polls showed Sen. Kerry ahead by 15 points, I wouldn't believe that either," he said.

Hart, 67, will open the Hall Center for the Humanities 2004-05 lecture series at 7 p.m. Thursday at the Lied Center on Kansas University's west campus.

His lecture, titled "Security in the New Age of the 21st Century," will focus on the nation's need to develop domestic and foreign policies more in keeping with a post-Cold War world.

After the lecture, the first 2004 presidential debate will be shown on the big screen at the Lied Center. At its conclusion, Hart will moderate a panel discussion on the debate.

Before the lecture, Hart will sign copies of his 2002 book, "Restoration of the Republic: The Jeffersonian Ideal in 21st Century America," in the Lied Center lobby. The signing is expected to start at 6:30 p.m.

None of the evening's events -- book signing, lecture, debate, discussion -- requires tickets.

‘Act of empire'

Hart called the invasion of Iraq a shortsighted "act of empire" that's justly being compared with the Vietnam War.

"Unless we can internationalize the conflict in the next one to three years, we're going to be there a long, long time," he said. "And there's no question it's going to cost us hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands more lives."

Hart served as co-chairman of the U.S. Commission on National Security and on Sept. 5, 2001, met with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, warning the White House about the likelihood of a terrorist attack.

He also co-chaired a Council on Foreign Relations task force, which in January 2001 warned that the United States was vulnerable to a significant terrorist attack.

Hart marveled at the Bush administration's record deficits and go-it-alone foreign policies.

"I remember in 1976, (U.S. Sen.) Bob Dole said if you want to go to war, vote Democratic. That was the standard Republican Party line," Hart said. "And when I was in the Senate, it was the Republicans who railed against deficit spending. Now, it's totally flip-flopped."

Hart called Dole's comments questioning Kerry's war record "unfortunate," adding, "to my knowledge, he's not repeated them."

Appearing on CNN last month, Dole, who was seriously wounded in World War II, said Kerry "never bled that I know of" and likely didn't deserve his three Purple Hearts.

"That's been his reputation in the past -- making those kinds of comments," Hart said, referring to Dole. "It's a reputation that for the most part he's overcome. But it still pops up once in a while."

Asked about growing up in Ottawa, Hart compared his childhood with the television show "Happy Days."

"It was about as normal a small-town upbringing as you could ask for in the very best sense of the word," he said.

While running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988, Hart was forced to quit the race after he was caught in an extramarital affair. Photos surfaced of he with model Donna Rice aboard a boat called Monkey Business.

Hart and his wife, Lee, remain married. They live in Colorado.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: donnarice; election; garyhart; monkeybusiness
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1 posted on 09/29/2004 2:39:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bringing out the big cannons now I see-- a disgraced former Presidential candidate who was caught openly cheating on his wife after daring the press to follow him.

I don't think many people care what he and his imaginary "moderate Republican" friends think. And, his point that the military is against Bush is laughable.

2 posted on 09/29/2004 2:43:34 AM PDT by RobFromGa (A desperate man is a dangerous man, and Kerry is getting desperate.)
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To: RobFromGa

How could anyone sit through such spin?


3 posted on 09/29/2004 2:46:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RobFromGa
I wonder if he and Gephardt have the same invisible friends. *Snicker*
4 posted on 09/29/2004 2:48:31 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, Hart was speaking in the Lied Center.
5 posted on 09/29/2004 2:50:53 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah, as if we're going to listen to anything from "Mr. Monkey Business."


6 posted on 09/29/2004 2:52:19 AM PDT by somerville
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How could anyone sit through such spin?

Not me. Most Kansans try to forget the whole liberal mecca of Lawrence exists... it reflects badly on the remainder of the state.

7 posted on 09/29/2004 2:58:01 AM PDT by Exigence
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To: RobFromGa

Wow! The Democrats just keep pulling losers out of their cast of characters to make unquantifiable statements. Gary Hart, the man who had to drop out of a presidential race due to an extramarital affair! Hopefully the Dems will keep rolling out their top actors; Kennedy, Hart, Carville, etc. They are a shameless bunch, have no dignity and are living proof of what the Democratic party is; a group of people with no ideas, direction or leadership. . Yup, I will vote for Kerry before I don't vote for Kerry (sarcasm). Where's Clinton? Still recovering from his heart surgery or staying clear of the Kerry run for the White House?


8 posted on 09/29/2004 2:58:54 AM PDT by tuvals (America First - Support Our Troops!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another kool-aide drinking has-been with nothing to ad but insults and wishful thinking.


9 posted on 09/29/2004 3:06:20 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

He's hoping for a slot in Kerry's cabinet.


10 posted on 09/29/2004 3:11:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I bet I have more Democrat relatives voting for GWB than Hart has Republican friends voting for Kerry.


11 posted on 09/29/2004 3:13:07 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: RobFromGa

Aren't the dems the ones who lived by the polls during the Clinton years? Now all I hear is the polls are all wrong, not conclusive, skewed.

In reality the dems are sounding more and more desperate as they try to give some good news to their base. Heck, I'm not even sure they're trying to court the independent voter anymore.


12 posted on 09/29/2004 3:33:08 AM PDT by DancingMyRainbow
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The only "poll" Gary Hart needs to criticize is his own...it certainly got him into enough trouble!


13 posted on 09/29/2004 3:35:39 AM PDT by Lurking2Long
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

14 posted on 09/29/2004 3:37:12 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: Lurking2Long; gridlock

LOL


15 posted on 09/29/2004 3:38:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: FreedomForce
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....

Oh, Hart isn't laughing.


16 posted on 09/29/2004 3:41:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Note to the Dems: Gary Hotpants is not what I'd call a good character reference.


17 posted on 09/29/2004 3:41:57 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here is a short Bio page on Bob Dole's service:

http://www.bobdole.org/bio/wwII.php

After I read it, it was very easy to understand his comments, not that I was questioning him before. It is a very interesting quick read.

I work in West Palm Beach and I have a friend who feels the polls are wrong based on his circle of associations. I had to take him to a map and show him we are here, which is mostly democratic and this is the rest of the country. I used www.electoral-vote.com and he was pretty depressed for the rest of the day. hehehe
18 posted on 09/29/2004 3:44:00 AM PDT by JrAsparagus
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think the polls are worthless as well, and my opinion rests on the same basis as Gary Hart's...my own bias and intuition. I have no facts to back up my opinion. I believe that Bush is actually much farther ahead than the reported polls indicate.


19 posted on 09/29/2004 3:45:51 AM PDT by aardvark1 (Something was seared in my memory but I forgot what it was.)
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To: JrAsparagus

Thank you.

Hart has a lot of nerve knocking Dole.


20 posted on 09/29/2004 3:47:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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