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Size seems to matter in Kerry-Bush debate
Reuters ^ | Tue, Sep 28, 2004

Posted on 09/28/2004 6:55:47 AM PDT by presidio9

When it comes to presidential debates, it seems size does matter.

John Kerry, a 6-foot-4-inch Democrat, poked fun on Monday at George W. Bush, the 5-foot-11-inch Republican president for reportedly insisting that podiums be set far apart to offset his opponent's five-inch height advantage.

The Massachusetts senator told a town hall meeting in Spring Green -- where he is rehearsing -- that voters should not be afraid of changing commanders in chief in the midst of war with Iraq and the battle against terror.

"You know when your horse is headed down toward the waterfalls or when your horse is drowning, it's a good time to change horses in midstream," Kerry said.

After a pause, he added: "May I also suggest that we need a taller horse? We could get through deeper waters that way."

Bush and Kerry face each other for the first time on Thursday in Coral Gables, Florida, where they will debate foreign policy and homeland security. Two more will be held next month before Americans vote on November 2.

The two camps have negotiated an elaborate 32-page set of rules, including whether they sit or stand, how much they can move around, and precisely how long they have to answer questions.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; 2004debates; bushkerry; bushkerrydebates; debate1; debates
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1 posted on 09/28/2004 6:55:47 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Hey Kerry, why the long face?


2 posted on 09/28/2004 6:57:05 AM PDT by frog_jerk_2004
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To: presidio9

A tall orange horse?


3 posted on 09/28/2004 6:57:44 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: presidio9

He is big! A big pr%#k.


4 posted on 09/28/2004 6:58:04 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: frog_jerk_2004

5 posted on 09/28/2004 6:59:55 AM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: frog_jerk_2004
Kerry: "May I also suggest that we need a taller horse?"

frog_jerk_2004: "Hey Kerry, why the long face?"

What a PERFECT response to a lame horse!

6 posted on 09/28/2004 7:00:08 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: presidio9
I'm in Wisconsin, I am embarrassed this orange horse face flip flopper is hiding out here
7 posted on 09/28/2004 7:00:20 AM PDT by UB355
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To: presidio9

Instead of reporting for duty he'll open the debate with Youuuu RRaannngggg.


8 posted on 09/28/2004 7:00:44 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: presidio9
If Kerry thinks his taller stature is an advantage against GW, that just demonstrates either his non-knowledge of GW's performance against the larger Al Gore, or bad advice from his handlers, or both.

I remember during the debates of late 2000 when the Gorebot left his podium, strode over to where GW was speaking to the crowd in order to physically intimidate him. GW stopped speaking, looked around and saw Gore standing there, then simply turned his back to Gore and continued speaking. All the Gorebot could do was slink back to his podium.

Dissed, pissed, easily dismissed.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 09/28/2004 7:01:04 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: presidio9

Wow, Kerry's actually said something that is indesputable and he cannot flip flop on...

..That's real progress.....for him.


10 posted on 09/28/2004 7:01:44 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: UB355

This jerk is alientating men everyday. First he makes fun of balding men, now shorter men????

How dumb is this guy????


11 posted on 09/28/2004 7:01:54 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: presidio9

I can't believe Kerry is really 6'4". I have to admit that I actually met him a year and a half ago, and politely shook his hand. I am 6'1" and maybe he was hunched over but it seemed we were eye to eye.

Of course, you supposedly shrink as you age as your spine compresses, so maybe they haven't measured him lately.

Now, Bill O'Reilly looked like a giant next to Mike Wallace as they were walking down the street.


12 posted on 09/28/2004 7:01:56 AM PDT by MaineRepublic
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To: presidio9

The Kerry team also wanted the temps set in the mid 60's 'cause Tall Horse is big on perspiration. The Bush folks declined.


13 posted on 09/28/2004 7:02:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: presidio9
When in the near vicinity of John F. Kerry, it's not wading through water that's the problem.
14 posted on 09/28/2004 7:02:39 AM PDT by Axiom Nine (Death to all fanatics!)
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To: presidio9
The article fails to mention that they rejected to lower the temperature below 70 because Kerry sweats like a pig.
15 posted on 09/28/2004 7:02:51 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: presidio9
"You know when your horse is headed down toward the waterfalls or when your horse is drowning, it's a good time to change horses in midstream," Kerry said.

It makes a lot of sense to evaluate the second horse pretty careful before you try to change to it. Particularly if it's LAME....or dead in the water.

(What genius decided to link Kerry to the 'horse' image? That's so dumb it's got to be the man himself's idea...)

16 posted on 09/28/2004 7:03:27 AM PDT by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.©)
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17 posted on 09/28/2004 7:04:02 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: UB355
I'm in Wisconsin, I am embarrassed this orange horse face flip flopper is hiding out here.

Be careful. I hear the sun can cause some nasty burns this time of year in Wisconsin.

18 posted on 09/28/2004 7:04:05 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: presidio9

OK. Kerry's taller and thinks he has better hair. And that's all he's got.


19 posted on 09/28/2004 7:04:34 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: atomicpossum

"I'm a tall horse, and I'm reporting for Howdy-Doody."


20 posted on 09/28/2004 7:05:23 AM PDT by OHelix
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To: presidio9
"You know when your horse is headed down toward the waterfalls or when your horse is drowning, it's a good time to change horses in midstream," Kerry said.

hmmm..
make sure the horse doesn't keep changing his direction because he can't make up his mind.

21 posted on 09/28/2004 7:05:40 AM PDT by evad (You cannot proceed to a correct conclusion based on a false premise.)
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To: presidio9

It's easy to be 6 foot 4 inches when your face is 2 feet long. He may be related to Mr. Ed.


22 posted on 09/28/2004 7:06:21 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: presidio9
Bring

it

on

23 posted on 09/28/2004 7:08:11 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: presidio9
Maybe the Reuters scumbags should be investigating the possibility that Kerry has Marfans Syndrome:

Does Kerry suffer from Marfans Syndrome

Clinical Manifestations of Marfan's syndrome!

Skeletal manifestations of Marfan's syndrome are the most obvious. Patients are tall and lanky, with long extremities. Scoliosis and joint hypermobility are common.

There are also associated sternal and spinal deformities.

Marfan's syndrome may also cause attention deficit disorder, hyperactivity, and verbal discrepancies through its effects on the CNS. Maybe the reason Kerry flip flops is due to ADD due to Marfans Syndrome.

24 posted on 09/28/2004 7:08:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Joe Brower

Also, at the beginning of the first debate, the bigger Ghorroid tried to crush GW's hand in the handshake and GW reversed it on him. That is something that Kerry with his abnormally long and deformed fingers should not try.


25 posted on 09/28/2004 7:10:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: presidio9

"May I also suggest that we need a taller horse?"

Of course you have to realize, the bigger the horse, the bigger the horse's ass.


26 posted on 09/28/2004 7:11:29 AM PDT by OldYank1
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To: Grampa Dave

Maybe Martians syndrome


27 posted on 09/28/2004 7:11:46 AM PDT by IamJustright
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To: presidio9

Kerry is such a dork. He isn't even funny when he tries to be funny.


28 posted on 09/28/2004 7:12:58 AM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Is Bush really 5'11"? I though he was over 6'


29 posted on 09/28/2004 7:13:18 AM PDT by BookaT (My Cat's Breath smells like Cat Food!)
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To: IamJustright

Bill Bradley apparently suffers from Marfans Syndrome and when a few doctors made the tv diagnosis, he denied it. Then he dropped out of the run in 2000 shortly after that possible diagnosis started coming out.


30 posted on 09/28/2004 7:14:11 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: UB355
I'm in Wisconsin, I am embarrassed this orange horse face flip flopper is hiding out here

No offense, Wisconsin, but I think this guy is a Royale with Cheese!

31 posted on 09/28/2004 7:14:26 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: presidio9

"Hi. I'm John Kerry. I should be the next president because I think I have nicer hair than George Bush and I'm taller than he is. Other than that, can't think of any other reason. Other than I really want to be."


32 posted on 09/28/2004 7:15:03 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: presidio9

I know that a lot of us here on FR tend to look at every President Bush move, or every event that inures to his benefit, as being part of some grand strategery by the administration. However, that being said, could it be that the President's campaign has actually goaded Kerry into making fun of the President's height?


33 posted on 09/28/2004 7:16:27 AM PDT by Freemyland
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To: dennisw

And if I'm elected, the Terror Alert Level will be available by looking at my face.

34 posted on 09/28/2004 7:17:12 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (Kerry Campaign: An army of pompous phrases moving across the landscape in search of an idea)
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To: Axiom Nine
When in the near vicinity of John F. Kerry, it's not wading through water that's the problem.

Right... The senior senator from Massachusetts has that down pat. Maybe Kerry should suggest Teddy give some pointers on escaping from deep water?

35 posted on 09/28/2004 7:17:22 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: dennisw

Orange face, regular-colored hands. Nope, no fake tan there, LOLOLOL! (Notice how he's trying to keep his creepy fingernails out of more shots?)

Pssst, the first rule of make-up in the theater is to make sure that your ears, arms, and neck match your face before your performance. You should at least try to look like all your body parts belong to the same body (hands are usually darker because they get more sun exposure). Geez!


36 posted on 09/28/2004 7:18:50 AM PDT by alwaysconservative (Proud member of the FreeRepublic Negligee Brigade!)
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To: presidio9

If Kerry carried himself with more grace he might be an imposing figure, but from the photos and video we see his height just makes him more awkward. Besides, I seem to recall that Little Big Man Ross Perot stole the show in many debates, so I'd say it's the guy with big ideas that wins the day.


37 posted on 09/28/2004 7:18:54 AM PDT by WestTexasWend
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"I can't believe Kerry is really 6'4". I have to admit that I actually met him a year and a half ago, and politely shook his hand. I am 6'1" and maybe he was hunched over but it seemed we were eye to eye. ..."

We tend to view people we respect as being bigger or taller than they really are. The opposite is also true. When we do not like the other party - they appear smaller. Separately, I wonder why the MSM now puts Bush at 5'11". Until this week he was 6'-6'1".


38 posted on 09/28/2004 7:21:57 AM PDT by LisaS
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To: presidio9
So, not only has Kerry insulted millions of men that never went to Vietnam or served in the military by calling Bush and Cheney draft dodgers (and believe me, this is going to hurt him BAD in November).....

but he's also insulted every man that's shorter than 6' 4"?

This guy is a complete dipsh*t ! ! !

39 posted on 09/28/2004 7:22:52 AM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: evets

When you see them side by side, you realize Lurch is BETTER looking than Kerry. No lie!


40 posted on 09/28/2004 7:26:27 AM PDT by OhMike (He which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart...we would not die in that man's company.)
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To: presidio9

In Kerry's case, speaking of horses is not figurative.


41 posted on 09/28/2004 7:26:39 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Anybody but Kerry!!)
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To: dennisw

orange you glad you support President Bush?


42 posted on 09/28/2004 7:33:51 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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"You know when your horse is headed down toward the waterfalls or when your horse is drowning, it's a good time to change horses in midstream," Kerry said.

Has anyone noticed that this is a paraphrase, maybe unconscious, of bin Ladin's famous words? I can't quote exactly, but it was to the effect that if men see a strong horse and a weak horse, they will choose the strong horse.

It's interesting that Kerry is drawing his words of proverbial wisdom from bin Ladin as well as traditional American election lore.

43 posted on 09/28/2004 7:38:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Freemyland
**...could it be that the President's campaign has actually goaded Kerry into making fun of the President's height?**

How would/did President Bush's campaign officials do that? :o/

44 posted on 09/28/2004 7:41:53 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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Sophmoric crap! Pretty stinking sad that at his age he still thinks that his height means a thing. I guarantee you that anyone worth his salt can stare that jack*ss down. Such a statement tells me he's not up to a face to face confrontation with a real man. "Bring it on!"


45 posted on 09/28/2004 7:42:47 AM PDT by discipler
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Hmm. Looks like sKerry's handlers slapped some self tanning lotion on him. Looks really bad.


46 posted on 09/28/2004 7:43:02 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Excellent observation, GD!


47 posted on 09/28/2004 7:43:48 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • veni • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: presidio9

5 11 is the NORMAL size for a MAN. Kerry is abnormal.


48 posted on 09/28/2004 7:44:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Joe Brower

I remember that too and loved it. Didn't GW give a little smirk and then turn back to speaking?


49 posted on 09/28/2004 7:44:01 AM PDT by discipler
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To: WestTexasWend

Thinking people know that height does not make the man. Character does. sKerry lacks that trait.


50 posted on 09/28/2004 7:44:56 AM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle (AMERICA, LAND OF THE FREE **BECAUSE** OF THE BRAVE.)
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