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Eyeing Iran Reactors, Israel Seeks U.S. Bunker Bombs
Reuters ^ | 21 sep 04 | Dan Williams

Posted on 09/21/2004 3:17:51 AM PDT by F14 Pilot

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States plans to sell Israel $139 million worth of air-launched bombs, including 500 "bunker busters" able to penetrate Iran's underground nuclear facilities, Israeli security sources said on Tuesday.

The Haaretz newspaper quoted a Pentagon report as saying the planned procurement sought "to maintain Israel's qualitative advantage and advance U.S. strategic and tactical interests."

The U.S. embassy in Israel had no comment, referring queries to Washington. Israel's Defense Ministry also declined comment.

But a senior Israeli security source who confirmed the Haaretz story told Reuters: "This is not the sort of ordnance needed for the Palestinian front. Bunker busters could serve Israel against Iran, or possibly Syria."

Haaretz quoted Israeli government sources as saying the sale, including 4,500 other guided munitions, was not expected to go through until after the U.S. elections in November. Earlier this month, Haaretz said Israel sought to obtain the U.S.-made, one-ton "bunker buster" bombs for a possible future strike against arch-foe Iran's atomic development program, which the Jewish state considers a strategic threat.

Tehran denies hostile designs, saying its nuclear program has peaceful purposes only. This week, it rejected international calls to comply with a U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency demand that it halt all uranium-enrichment activities.

Among the nuclear facilities that Iran has declared are uranium mines near the city of Yazd, and a uranium-enrichment plant in Natanz incorporating large underground buildings that could accommodate thousands of gas centrifuges.

Western diplomats accuse Iran of having several undeclared facilities close to Tehran thought to be related to uranium enrichment, a process the United States and some other countries believe Tehran will use to produce fissile material for weapons.

The exiled Iranian opposition group known as the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) says Iran is constructing numerous secret facilities under its Defense Ministry.

DIPLOMACY STILL SEEN AS PREFERABLE

Known by the military designations GBU-27 or GBU-28, "bunker busters" are guided by lasers or satellites and can penetrate up to 30 feet of earth and concrete. Israel may already have some of the bombs for its U.S.-supplied F-15 fighter jets.

As they are part of the weapon set for the F-15, I would assume them to be in place," said Robert Hewson, editor of Jane's Air-Launched Weapons. He said the bombs proved effective in the 1991 Gulf war and 1990s NATO strikes on Serbian forces. Israel, which is widely assumed to be the Middle East's only nuclear-armed nation, wants to stop Iran going atomic, but officials say diplomatic pressure on Tehran is the best method.

Many believe a military strike, especially by Israel, could kill off any chance of a diplomatic resolution or efforts by Iranian opposition groups to achieve internal reform. "I think (military action) should be a last, last, last resort. Unlike Iraq and North Korea, there is at least some chance of bringing about an undermining of the Velayat-e Faqih's authority," former CIA director R. James Woolsey told Reuters this month, referring to Iran's ruling Islamic clerics.

Convinced Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear weapons, Israel bombed Iraq's Osiraq reactor in 1981. While the move drew international censure, eventually many U.S. experts saw it as an important blow to Saddam's strategic weapons capabilities.

"The response of the United States was, unfortunately, negative with respect to Osiraq," Woolsey said. "The Israelis were right and everybody else was wrong, including us, in 1981."

The Osiraq strike did not stop Saddam's quest for the bomb. Instead, Iraq went underground and worked in secret until the program was uncovered by the U.N. nuclear watchdog in 1991.

(Additional reporting by Louis Charbonneau in Vienna)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: axisofevil; axisofterror; bomb; iaea; iran; israel; miltech; napalminthemorning; nuke; southwestasia; us; wot
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1 posted on 09/21/2004 3:17:51 AM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: DoctorZIn; McGavin999; freedom44; nuconvert; sionnsar; AdmSmith; dixiechick2000; onyx; Pro-Bush; ...

IMPORTANT PING


2 posted on 09/21/2004 3:19:17 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: F14 Pilot

If Israel is talking about it, this is a political interdiction effort, not a military operation in the planning pipeline.

However, once the capability is in place, one has the capacity to turn into the other.

GBU 28's will be effective against above ground reactor containment shells, perhaps against the core vessel itself. Underground facilities are another story. I hope the US Legislature doesn't have cause to regret its refusal to grant research into high energy systems for this purpose.


3 posted on 09/21/2004 3:24:19 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: F14 Pilot

To our US President:

Oh, Mr. President, please send 'em the ordnance! ...please!

Those bunker busters are safe, humane, effective, and there's very little clean-up!

Even our very large craters made by the very old test cratering devices in the US southwest were easy to clean up. People in the US take sightseeing tours into them.

The bunkerbusters would be no problem for civilians in Persia.


4 posted on 09/21/2004 3:28:39 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: jeffers

There are nuclear bunker busters, though, that are very safe and leave very little above-ground fallout. Israel should be requesting those, IMO, and before the target is made more dangerous by the fuel rod shipment.


5 posted on 09/21/2004 3:31:53 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: F14 Pilot
Tick tick tick tick ..... are the smelly unhygienic Iranian Ayatollahs reading this too?
6 posted on 09/21/2004 3:32:07 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: F14 Pilot

I think the Israelis should be seeking cratering devices (bunker busters) that go deeper, though. They would be safer than any device that only penetrates 30 feet.


7 posted on 09/21/2004 3:34:39 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

If we wait for the fuel rods to be loaded, the contamination would reduce the odds of reusing the site. The cpntamination might also mask our use of a nuclear bunker buster, or at least make it argumentative.


8 posted on 09/21/2004 3:35:09 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Bathrobe Bombardier)
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To: familyop

Deeper and deeper using 3 waves of bunker busters to dig deeper on each turn until the Ayatollahs squeal....

"Such is the will of Allah the merciless, who the Jews control"


9 posted on 09/21/2004 3:35:50 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: F14 Pilot; jackmercer

Jackmercer's earlier speculation: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1177612/posts?page=1,50


10 posted on 09/21/2004 3:41:14 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("let them go naked for a while"...Theraaazaaaaa Heinz-Kerry)
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To: dennisw

You know, that's not a bad idea. It would be more cost effective than using the devices I mentioned.

My thinking was limited to experience with firing an old ground-based cratering device (M180).


11 posted on 09/21/2004 3:44:42 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Rebelbase

I'd read it, Thanks


12 posted on 09/21/2004 3:45:54 AM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: ProudVet77

...true. And might a good hit or twelve even prevent a meltdown? That would also take care of the problem of the existence of the fuel. Hmmm.


13 posted on 09/21/2004 3:48:20 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

A 15-25 megaton warhead detonated at the surface digs REALLY deep. About 600 feet. Yes, there's lots of fallout. At least it would be fallout that we could predict, unlike any fallout from an Iranian device that was detonated at a place and time of their choosing.


14 posted on 09/21/2004 3:48:22 AM PDT by datura (Democrat=Communist=America's Enemy Within)
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To: familyop

The Nuclear Bunker Busters in our arsenal have never received a full field test, but the specs are awesome.

http://www.wired.com/news/story/0,1240,47319,00.html

Check out the B61-11... our nuclear bunker buster.


15 posted on 09/21/2004 3:51:44 AM PDT by coconutt2000
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To: F14 Pilot

Nice! The article does not point out that the bombing of osiraq set saddam's bomb efforts back years.

thanks for posting


16 posted on 09/21/2004 3:53:33 AM PDT by steve w ("Carry a message to Garcia"if-03.jpg)
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To: F14 Pilot
Tehran denies hostile designs, saying its nuclear program has peaceful purposes only. This week, it rejected international calls to comply with a U.N. International Atomic Energy Agency demand that it halt all uranium-enrichment activities.

Iran is OPEC's second largest producer of oil. Why do they need a nuclear reactor to produce energy? They lie.

17 posted on 09/21/2004 3:57:55 AM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: F14 Pilot

Wait, I thought a nuclear power plant could be destroyed by a Cessna-150. That's why we need to ban general aviation from those areas, according to the feds.


18 posted on 09/21/2004 3:59:56 AM PDT by snopercod (In addition to medical, military and financial records Kerry won't even release his school records.)
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To: coconutt2000

Thanks for the link. The B61-11 sounds pretty handy. I suspect it would be hard to know for sure if it ever had a full field test.
I'm fascinationed how you make a nuke into a directional charge.


19 posted on 09/21/2004 4:02:38 AM PDT by ProudVet77 (Bathrobe Bombardier)
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