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Mr. Kerry and the FBI
townhall.com ^ | September 10, 2004 | Gary Aldrich

Posted on 09/11/2004 3:59:37 AM PDT by Elkiejg

We are apparently amidst a national conversation between the Kerry campaign and the mainstream media about President Bush’s military records when he served as a fighter pilot in the National Guard. The question of whether he missed a physical or several meetings seems to be asked over and over again. The catalyst for all these questions is the federal records which are kept about each member of the Armed Forces.

These documents are the best evidence of what really happened at that time. Of lesser value are the memories of various individuals who served with George W. Bush. Did they help him get into the reserves? And can they accurately recall whether he was or was not attending a meeting? We all know that memories can fade after 30 years.

With regard to President Bush, the records are the most important find in the minds of the investigative journalists. If the records are not favorable to Bush, then the Kerry campaign benefits.

Meanwhile, Kerry continues to refuse to release his complete military records which would answer a number of important questions about his service, his medals, and what happened after he returned from Vietnam. So why isn’t the mainstream media pounding on Kerry to get his military records?

Lurking just around the corner are some federal records which may have an even greater impact on Kerry’s bid for the presidency, but mainstream investigative journalists are avoiding this issue like the plague.

Somewhere, perhaps in the basement of FBI Headquarters, located at 9th and Pennsylvania in Washington, D.C., are 14 cartons worth of investigative reports involving Mr. Kerry’s activities when he returned from Vietnam. Remarkably, there are records of Mr. Kerry’s attendance at an antiwar, anti-American rally where the assassination of U.S. senators who supported the war was openly discussed as a viable political tactic.

Before the mainstream media scoffs at this evidence, I think it might be useful to review some of the activities of the New-Left, Far-Left, or, as I like to call it, the Hard-Left during those times, which might explain the FBI’s interests in conducting a major criminal investigation of Kerry. These were not just over-the-top statements made by hyperventilating kids. At that time, the country was suffering from wholesale domestic terrorism of a very deadly and destructive kind – and I submit that many of the leaders of these violent groups networked closely together to obtain the maximum impact against the hated “establishment”.

I have in my possession a remarkable, if not well known, professionally made DVD entitled, “The Weather Underground”. This Academy Award nominee for best documentary feature is described by the Christian Science Monitor as “…a terrific movie, energetic and articulate. It’s the don’t miss documentary of the season.” The New York Times is quoted as saying, “A great story! Terrifically smart!” The Boston Globe, now keenly interested in the federal records of Bush, says, “Essential viewing.” The Washington Post shouts, “Exhilarating. Couldn’t be better timed.”

This is the story of violent, Hard-Left radicals with attitudes much like young John Kerry. They bombed, robbed, threatened, rioted, burned, injured, and killed members and symbols of the hated “establishment.” More important, it is about home-grown revolutionaries who supported Communism vs. The Federal Bureau of Investigation.

I’ll leave it to the reader to conclude why The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, and The New York Times like this DVD so much. Do you think they were rooting for the FBI? Does the story of surveillances, arrests, search warrants, and wiretaps excite these mainstream media types? Or, do they really pine for the good old days of overturned, burning police cars and bombing conspiracies hatched over a bong?

The entire issue of what the FBI knows about Kerry and when they knew it is being totally ignored. But not for long. As the existence and contents of federal records become more and more a part of this presidential campaign, it is inevitable that we will finally get around to talking about Kerry’s FBI files and what’s in them. Do Hillary and Bill already know? Is that why they don’t seem too worried about a Kerry win, which would end Hillary’s realistic chances for a run in 2008?

The FBI records on John Kerry go far beyond your usual FBI background investigation – the FBI was trying to determine if John Kerry should do hard time for conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government through violent means - among other possible charges.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fbi; fbifiles; garyaldrich; kerry; kerrysecrets; militaryrecord; skerry
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Can anyone request these files under the Freedom of Information Act? If so, then let's do it.
1 posted on 09/11/2004 3:59:37 AM PDT by Elkiejg
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To: Elkiejg

14 cartons!
Gary specifically notes "14 cartons."
That tells me there's a there, there.


2 posted on 09/11/2004 4:04:11 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry deserves to be the last casualty of the Vietnam War.)
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To: Elkiejg

Even if the mainstream media is "forced" to reveal this info, they'll caveat each report with, "But remember, this was during the Nixon administration."


3 posted on 09/11/2004 4:12:29 AM PDT by libertylover (Keep Marraige Normal)
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To: Elkiejg

The Kerry campaign at first denied being at that meeting (as well as Kerry lying to Biographers about it) and later admitted he was at those meetings, but forgot what they were about. As if the meeting you resign at and the assassination of Senators is something you just forget.


4 posted on 09/11/2004 4:16:23 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: onyx

Yes he does mention a specific amount. I reaaly would like to know what kind of discharge he got from the Naval reserves, with all his criminal activity, it had to be dishonorable.


5 posted on 09/11/2004 4:17:31 AM PDT by marty60
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To: libertylover
Even if the mainstream media is "forced" to reveal this info, they'll caveat each report with, "But remember, this was during the Nixon administration."

so what, we are talking about plotting to kill Senators. I can't see how any spin would diminish that.

6 posted on 09/11/2004 4:19:13 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Elkiejg

Sorry.

Hillary has 'em.


7 posted on 09/11/2004 4:19:21 AM PDT by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: Elkiejg

Let's not forget the bank robberies, bombings, and police shot and killed in the US. The criminals behind this simply changed tactics and decided to bring down the country by brainwashing children through schools, academia, judicial usurpation of congressional powers, and takeover of the MSM. Classic commmunism. The end justifies the means.


8 posted on 09/11/2004 4:19:40 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Elkiejg

It doesn't matter how many boxes there are, Hillary is running in 2008 after Bush's second term, period.


9 posted on 09/11/2004 4:28:49 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: hershey

The files I assume Aldrich refers to are located in the following link. It is a MESS looking through that stuff though. The things people have found worthwhile are the Paris meetings and the Camil Senator Assassination Meetings. Not sure if every single document has been searched for Kerry info, but likely...
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=VVAWFBI
(I've never posted here, I dont know how to do the "reply" or post new or whatever, sorry if i got it wrong!)


10 posted on 09/11/2004 4:29:35 AM PDT by jbird33
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To: jbird33
(I've never posted here, I dont know how to do the "reply" or post new or whatever, sorry if i got it wrong!)

You did great. Welcome to FR!

11 posted on 09/11/2004 4:33:53 AM PDT by geedee (Who is more foolish, the child afraid of the dark, or the man afraid of the light?)
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To: jbird33

Also judicialwatch.org has been through the files and have some of the best stuff posted. BTW, there is another investigation of Kerry's mil record and antiwar stuff going on but unlikely to yeild much before the election. In a sane world, Kerry would lose his seat and do his time. He falsely accused vets of war crimes, but he stupidly filmed his crew under his command BURNING VILLAGES as he testified to and as he stated on the Dick Caveat Show. Hannity has some inside info about his non-attendance at the closed Inel briefings that he'll make public when we need a boost. Kerry's record is dismal and dirty and this scumbag is going down.


12 posted on 09/11/2004 4:43:29 AM PDT by Wardawg (Hanoi John was here.)
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To: Elkiejg
Remarkably, there are records of Mr. Kerry’s attendance at an antiwar, anti-American rally where the assassination of U.S. senators who supported the war was openly discussed as a viable political tactic.

If Mr Kerry would happen to win this election and then did this VVAW thing again, he would no doubt be impeached! Since it is against the law to plan the assassinations of congressmen, why were no charges brought against Mr Kerry in the 1970's?????

13 posted on 09/11/2004 4:48:42 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: geedee

I am so sick of the media, the lefties, the lies, the manipulation...grrrrrrrrr.

Why is it the media, whoever or whichever piece of it you talk about, can never seem to get all of what seem to be facts together in one place at one time?

An example. The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth questions Kerry's ability to command. There are several aspects to their misgivings, one of those being that Kerry lied about several things during his time in the Navy, more when he came out, which had some disasterous results.

At least it seems they sort of have that part right, but their is more to it than that, it goes beyond his time in the Navy.

He also was "caught" in one of those self inflating lies when he was running for Senate, claiming to have introduced legislation about health care. Which he had done no such thing. When he was a prosecutor he claimed to have cleared a large amount of cases, presenting himself as "super prosecutor", when in fact the number of cases he claimed to have taken care of were a larger number of cases than the entire county or whatever had in the entire year. Again a Kerryflation of his performance. These stories, added to the Navy questions begins to paint a portrait of a man who continues to use lies to bolster himself. I am sure there are more such stories to relate.

The whole point of this is that if the media could/would pull all of these facts together, they would see why I say "yea, right", when Kerry says that other world leaders want him to win. It puts that in a whole new light.


14 posted on 09/11/2004 5:08:58 AM PDT by HannaUSA
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To: Elkiejg; All
-Kansas City Kerry- "The Phoenix Project"--
15 posted on 09/11/2004 5:11:00 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: backhoe
-Kansas City Kerry- "The Phoenix Project"--

WOW Backhoe, I'm ALWAYS impressed with your research and archives...many thanks.

16 posted on 09/11/2004 5:20:22 AM PDT by Elkiejg (I'M A ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT!! GIVE 'M "ZELL".)
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To: Elkiejg
Thank you!


17 posted on 09/11/2004 5:31:40 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: onyx
That tells me there's a there, there.

HUH? ;-)

18 posted on 09/11/2004 5:40:52 AM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: ThomasMore

If you did't in March, grab the links from post #15.


19 posted on 09/11/2004 5:43:42 AM PDT by no more apples (God Bless our troops)
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To: marty60
In regard to Kerry's files, below is an email I received from a neighbor, retired Spec. Ops officer who still has many contacts in DOD and active duty. He feels the following is EXTREMELY important.

Kerry's Discharge----------------

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore,,,,Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge: Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable. My guess is that he was Discharged inthe '70s, but not Honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire. This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

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On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb.1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years -- 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan.1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, specially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar.12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve Inactive. On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's Article 104 part 904, and U.S.Code 18 U.S.C.953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team -Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120 "The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs" www.authentiseal.org

20 posted on 09/11/2004 5:44:30 AM PDT by Elkiejg (I'M A ZELL MILLER DEMOCRAT!! GIVE 'M "ZELL".)
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