Why was this never a big story?

Self & NPR ^ | 09/11/2004 | Self & NPR

[P-40]

Short audio segment here. Click on "Judge Won't Dismiss Nichols State Case" to listen.

http://www.npr.org/rundowns/segment.php?wfId=1846269

[P-40]

In your opinion, why was this story of missing video and possibly additional suspects in the Oklahoma City bombing of the Murrah Federal Building not big news? It just sounds like something that should have been.

[Abcdefg]

coverup?

[P-40]

I have often wondered if this is a coverup...but why would a Bush administration want to cover up something done during the Democrat's reign?

[VisualizeSmallerGovernment]

Nichols was sentenced to something like 168 life sentences without possibility of parole. There isn't anything here that would affect Nichols one way or another.

It's possible that there's more to the story and that further investigation is warranted, but there isn't much to go on here aside from rumor and speculation.

[P-40]

This would not affect Nichols...but this is a Secret Service agent describing in detail the contents of a security video that shows more than McVeigh in the Ryder truck that day, not to mention the FBI logs showing twenty-three such tapes. So are these extra people still running around in the U.S. right now?

[AnimalLover]

I have often wondered if this is a coverup...but why would a Bush administration want to cover up something done during the Democrat's reign?

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[Artemis Webb]

It wasn't big news because Mutt and Jeff acted alone.
There was nobody in the grassy knoll.
Booth killed Lincoln
JFK is dead
Elvis is dead (I think)
Y2K came and went...no problem.
The Matrix is a movie and a work of fiction...though not as wild a story as Fahrenheit 911

[P-40]

Did you listen to the audio clip?

[preacher]

Jayna Davis wrote a book "The Third Terrorist" about a possible Iraqi connection to the OK City bombing.

Book Description
Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were not the lone conspirators in the Oklahoma City bombing—the attack that killed nearly 170 people in a few short seconds. They were part of a greater scheme, one which involved Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq. This book, written by the relentless reporter who first broke the story of the Mideast connection, is filled with new revelations about the case and explains in full detail the complete, and so far untold, story behind the failed investigation—why the FBI closed the door, what further evidence exists to prove the Iraqi connection, why it has been ignored, and what makes it more relevant now than ever. Told with a gripping narrative style and rock-solid investigative journalism and vetted by men such as former CIA director James Woolsey, Davis’s piercing account is the first book to set the record straight about what really happened April 19, 1995.

[Arizona Carolyn]

The whole thing stinks to high heaven. Janet Reno/Clinton covered this up big time (for those who haven't already, I highly recommend reading "The Third Terrorist, by Jayna Davis) what I still can't understand is why John Ashcroft has sat on it...

By the way.. when Clinton was on Larry King he named off (on both hands) all the terrorist attacks on the USA and in a Freuden slip as he went in order, starting with 1993 World Trade Center, he specifically named Oklahoma City. One thing that angers me is the attack on OKC DID have an IRAQI connection....

[Arizona Carolyn]

So are these extra people still running around in the U.S. right now?

Yes..... one of the main characters was working at Logan Airport in Boston of September 11, 2001.

[ladyinred]

It has been in certain circles, but the MSM won't touch it. Clinton administration covered this up, and they will do anything to protect their fair haired boy. There are books on the subject however.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Klintoon and Butch Reno had all the federal agencies hushed and in lock-step. Slick wanted America to blame all those so called notorious "White Right Wing Militia Groups." It was also another push for greater gun control and crippling our second/fourth amendment rights. This is what happens when trailer park trash/pervert and a dyke get into positions of power. America Under Siege(8 years of communist control in the Whitehouse. Terrorism by the MEs made easier by billy blythe and janet (the mug) reno. This message was approved by the Alabama Defense Force. Hell Yea!!

[Rockingham]

Why would an OKC coverup begun in the Clinton era continue in the Bush era? Think of how bureaucracies function.

(1) Even after a change in administration, many of those who participated in a coverup remain in the bureaucracy and must keep the coverup in place in order to avoid exposure, embarrassment, and more serious problems for themselves and their agencies. The same holds true for their successors because they do not want their agencies endangered by exposure of the crimes and follies of their predecessors.

This may seem contrary to the sense of justice of ordinary Americans. It is. But through selection, training, and experience, those who staff the upper levels of government agencies are not ordinary Americans. They might have started as such, but years in the bureaucracy changed them.

(2) New administrations -- indeed, all administrations -- have more important and pressing things to do than taking up the difficult and time-consuming task of exposing their predecessors' misdeeds. They might try to do so, and they might want to do so, but the bureaucracy resists, and the political appointees at the top are outnumbered and run ragged by the demands of their work or seduced by its temptations.

Here's an example of how things works in practice. When Nixon was President and J. Edgar Hoover died, Nixon told a senior Department of Justice appointee named Robert Mardian to get control of Hoover's legendary files of potential blackmail material. Mardian rushed over to the FBI building and demanded that Hoover's longtime secretary show him his files.

Miss Gandy provided Mardian with several folders of recent inconsequential correspondence and management memos. She insisted that everything else was in the FBI's massive central filing system. Mardian went away disappointed and puzzled. Nixon grumbled skeptically. He soon installed a pliable nonentity to run the FBI and told him to acquaint himself with the agency's filing system.

Of course, the files Nixon had in mind were long gone. Shortly after Hoover's death, Miss Gandy and several trusted agents utterly loyal to Hoover and the Bureau spent weeks going through more than half a century worth of Hoover's special files, which resided in a large locked room that directly adjoined his working office. Most of the material was destroyed according to Hoover's directions, with bits useful to ongoing investigations sent to the central file system. Even more sensitive files kept in Hoover's home were destroyed by his aide Clyde Tolson and a similar set of trusted agents.

Of course, if Nixon or Mardian had thought things through, Miss Gandy, Cylde Tolson, and their FBI colleagues could not have put them off with shallow lies. Within an hour of Hoover's death, Nixon could have had dozens of lawyers and agents from other agencies questioning people, demanding answers, and getting locked doors opened -- as a "transition effort" so that Hoover's vital work did not falter for a moment. Nixon though had other things on their mind and, even as smart and cynical as he was, he was no match for the bureaucrats.

As a rule, administrations are a poor match for the bureaucratic practice that coverups are maintained once they are in place. Moreover, no administration really wants to make coverups in general harder by strengthening whistleblower protections and encouraging stronger Congressional oversight. After all, for good and ill, every administration has things to hide.

[Dante3]

There are scores of things about this case that stand out. The rush to get McVeigh executed before he might talk. The leaks and hiding of information. The failure to fully pursue others possibly involved. The relative lack of government support given these victims as opposed to rich New York 9/11 victims' relatives. No celebrity self-promotions. As far as I know no investigation of McVeigh's second wife. ETC.

[P-40]

Thanks, Rockingham. I think you summed up things all too well. I know these bureaucracies contain a lot of good men and women and I hope that things went on behind the scenes to take care of whatever suspects may have remained at large.