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Dan Rather to Discuss Document Authenticity
Drudge Report ^ | September 10, 2004

Posted on 09/10/2004 1:49:38 PM PDT by RWR8189

CBS EVENING NEWS WITH DAN RATHER to address, in detail, the issues surrounding the authenticity of the documents broadcast in the 60 MINUTES report on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard... Developing...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; blather; cbslies; danrather; drudge; forged; forgeddocuments; forgery; killian; mediabias; medialies; napalminthemorning; rather; rathergate; selectricgate; sitzpinklerrather; whatliberalmedia
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1 posted on 09/10/2004 1:49:42 PM PDT by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Make a list of every sponsor through the News Hour as during 60 Minutes show Sunday Eve. Then the MASSIVE BOYCOTT shall begin. Take no prisoners.


2 posted on 09/10/2004 1:50:51 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: RWR8189

I can't wait for the live thread on this one!


3 posted on 09/10/2004 1:50:56 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Steven W.

Ab-so-friggin'-lutely!


4 posted on 09/10/2004 1:51:40 PM PDT by mattdono (Chris Matthew is Zell Miller's b*tch!)
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To: RWR8189

Is Dan Rather going to qualify himself as a typeface expert so that he can then ask questions of himself regarding the authenticity of the documents in question or is he going to have another expert on the air who will discuss the authenticity of the documents? I am giving odds that Dan will be the expert and not some legit third party.


5 posted on 09/10/2004 1:52:46 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Steven W.
If Freepers watched CBS, it would double their Nielsen ratings.

I wrote them an e-mail demanding that they fire Rather for blatent bias and incompetent fact checking.

6 posted on 09/10/2004 1:52:49 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: RWR8189

I anticipate that he'll try to lie & obfuscate his way out of the journalistic mess his biases have created.


7 posted on 09/10/2004 1:52:52 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: RWR8189

Rather had better re-think this. If he comes out trying to prove the documents are real it will be proven to be a cover-up and CBS will just dig a deeper hole. At some point you have to come clean and take your medicine. The medicine gets much worse with each flagrant defense of the indefensible.


8 posted on 09/10/2004 1:53:09 PM PDT by go star go
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To: RWR8189; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; blam; MEG33; Howlin; Pukin Dog; SunkenCiv

This ought to be good!


9 posted on 09/10/2004 1:53:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: RWR8189

I'm sure he will say "We stand behind our documents and our sources...blah blah blah" and then he will say that their sources are confidential and that "you just have to trust us on this one"


10 posted on 09/10/2004 1:53:49 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: RWR8189

Bet he doesn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.


11 posted on 09/10/2004 1:54:03 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Oh, and Dick Cheney too.)
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To: RWR8189
I hope whoever Rather and his crew are covering for can recompence them for their shattered dignity and destroyed integrity.

Imagine being forced to defend the authenticity of the Hitler Diaries or the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
12 posted on 09/10/2004 1:54:14 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: RWR8189
McSchadenfreude...

i'm lovin it

13 posted on 09/10/2004 1:54:21 PM PDT by Constitution Day (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: Steven W.

Agreed. Someone needs to start a thread, or point me to the thread, that has listed all the advertisers on 60 minutes. Dan has more guts than brains if he is going to stand by these memos. He's more arrogant and stupid than I originally thought (and that's about as big of an insult as you are going to get!)


14 posted on 09/10/2004 1:55:24 PM PDT by GeoPie
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To: Mike Fieschko

Noone expects the Spanish Imquisition!!!!!


15 posted on 09/10/2004 1:55:26 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: RWR8189

"I have investigated myself and found myself innocent. And that's the way it is because I said that's the way it is."


16 posted on 09/10/2004 1:55:34 PM PDT by Lexington Green (It just ain't right to ask an American soldier to salute John Kerry.)
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To: RWR8189

What's the font Kenneth?


17 posted on 09/10/2004 1:55:38 PM PDT by billb
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To: cspackler

Inquisition, dang it.


18 posted on 09/10/2004 1:55:52 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: RWR8189

'in detail'? I bet.


19 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:17 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RWR8189

20 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:17 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kerry Kool-Aid: Changes flavors with every sip. Being Wrong is better than being F'n Wrong.)
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To: RWR8189
"I did not use Microsoft Word... to create those documents"


21 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:20 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (CEO, VRWC: When you think treason, don't think Benedict Arnold - think JOHN FORGED KERRY!)
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To: All

Anybody going to give the play-by-play tonight?

I have to be gone during the 5:30 time slot.


22 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:33 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: RWR8189

Problem - They're going to obsess over the superscript "th" while ignoring the other overwhelming evidence. Then let the weekend and Ivan the Terrible cover up any further discussion of the other issues with the documents. Presto, chango, another Burger-gate coverup.


23 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:34 PM PDT by Crazieman (Hanoi John Effin Kerry. War Criminal. Traitor. Democrat.)
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To: RWR8189

"All documents have been verified. No further answers needed."

Dan "BAGHDAD BOB" Rather


24 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:39 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: RWR8189; All

So Dan is going to say that his source is the same that gave him the Abu Ghraib pics. Should we believe that? And if that isn't true, why would Dan say that? By saying it was the Abu Ghraib source, does that add credibility to the docs since AG turned out to be true?

This is very interesting. Or does Dan figure since he's going down, he might as well re-raise the subject of Abu Ghraib?

This is sooooo curious.


25 posted on 09/10/2004 1:56:44 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: RWR8189

How exactly does a typewriter in 1968 type this?

Bush wasn’t here during rating period and I don’t have any feedback from 187th in Alabama.

Wouldn’t it be more like this?

Bush wasn’t here during rating period and I don’t have any feedback from 187th in Alabama.

On the typerwrites that some are saying could do superscript, did it require changing the print ball or key rack? And would anyone go to this trouble just to make the "th" in superscript? th Sure seems like a lot of trouble to go through.

26 posted on 09/10/2004 1:57:06 PM PDT by BJungNan (Stop Spam - Do NOT buy from junk email.)
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To: RWR8189

Dan is probably typing away on an old typewriter right now, then he`s going to wash it and smudge it up a bit..."Uh uh..All we did is copy from the original ..this is the original document we copied from..As you can see it`s the same document word for word" Then someone is going to point out that the "original" has the CBS logo on it. OOPS!!


27 posted on 09/10/2004 1:57:27 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver ( What`s the difference between a car alarm and John Kerry? Car alarms sometimes do their job.)
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To: RWR8189

I can hear it now...Rove did it


28 posted on 09/10/2004 1:57:28 PM PDT by woofie (What Do You Call a Boomerang That Doesn't work? ...a stick)
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To: faithincowboys

The proof is in the kerning!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/007779.php


29 posted on 09/10/2004 1:57:33 PM PDT by lunatic12
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"To err is human, but to really foul up requires a computer.*"

*(ACTUAL DAN RATHER QUOTE!)


30 posted on 09/10/2004 1:57:58 PM PDT by Constitution Day (What did Rather know and when did he know it?)
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To: RWR8189
Is there anyway to watch CBS News online at 6:30 pm eastern???
31 posted on 09/10/2004 1:58:09 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: RWR8189

Someone give play by play. PLEASE


32 posted on 09/10/2004 1:58:38 PM PDT by ntryerson
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To: Constitution Day

If he doesn't type out a perfectly recreated copy from an IBM executive typewriter (I'm sure CBS has the resources to get one), then I am DELETING MY CBSSPORTSLINE FANTASY FOOTBALL TEAM!!! Who wants Ricky Williams? :)


33 posted on 09/10/2004 1:58:42 PM PDT by rebel_without_much_cause
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To: RWR8189

Rather's betting the farm on his ability to prove the authenticity of these documents. I don't think that the usual one-sided explanation is going to work this time. If that's what he's got in mind, then he might as well take the cyanide now.


34 posted on 09/10/2004 1:59:03 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: nutmeg

bttt


35 posted on 09/10/2004 1:59:11 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: RWR8189
Sheesh... can I get a siren here?!?

36 posted on 09/10/2004 1:59:11 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: billb
Courier New is the drudge font...impacting hard
38 posted on 09/10/2004 1:59:45 PM PDT by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: RWR8189
I guarantee that Rather will raise more questions than give answers. This will keep the issue alive until CBS is forced to allow an independent investigation.
39 posted on 09/10/2004 1:59:51 PM PDT by Pukin Dog ("Offer the enemy a bait to lure him, feign disorder and strike him.")
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To: RWR8189

Succinct write-up re the IBM Selectric's inability to create the memos in question:

http://www.selectric.org/selectric/

The page may require a few tries, as it's reportedly getting LOTS of hits...


40 posted on 09/10/2004 2:00:08 PM PDT by macbee (Hanlon's Razor: "Never ascribe to villainy what is best explained by stupidity.")
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To: RWR8189
First I want to see the mea culpa.

There's plenty of time for the purge later.

41 posted on 09/10/2004 2:00:11 PM PDT by StoneFury
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To: A Jovial Cad
I anticipate that he'll try to lie & obfuscate his way out of the journalistic mess his biases have created.

Right. All he will try to do is legitimize the credibility of his claim to have carefully scrutinized the documents. That's all. He will not prove they are not fakes. He will try to prove that it was feasible to believe they were not fakes. He can't do it. But he will try.

42 posted on 09/10/2004 2:00:30 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: RWR8189

The burden of proof in the documents authenticity is with Dan Rather. He should be able to demonstrate that an IBM Selectric typewriter of the early 70's can create a document that looks like their forgeries! These old typewriters are still around, Dan, get one from Ebay and prove it!


43 posted on 09/10/2004 2:00:35 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Asclepius
"can recompence them for their shattered dignity and destroyed integrity". What dignity and integrity did Dan have in the first place. I still remember his Vietnam reporting.
44 posted on 09/10/2004 2:00:41 PM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: RWR8189

Lies, lies, everywhere lies, telling big, tell them wide, lies, lies, Blather lies. Tell us again Danny boy, another lie. Had all day to come up with a cover lie. Dan Blathering Rather, communist lover supreme.


45 posted on 09/10/2004 2:01:03 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The time is coming for all true Patriots to rise up and take back this Republic!)
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To: RWR8189
CBSGURLIEMANLIAR

YEAH, WELL WE WILL POST STICKERS LIKE THIS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY

46 posted on 09/10/2004 2:01:22 PM PDT by timestax
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To: RWR8189

WhatTH the frequency KenneTH...THuffering THucatash, THis is THrictly outrageouTH! THese commie newTHcasterTH are alwayTH doing thiTH!


47 posted on 09/10/2004 2:01:26 PM PDT by Imaverygooddriver ( What`s the difference between a car alarm and John Kerry? Car alarms sometimes do their job.)
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To: All

Dan "As soon as Bush addresses the serious nature of these charges contained in these seriously forged documents then CBS can admit that we have been duped. Until then, we stand by our initial evaluation."


48 posted on 09/10/2004 2:01:56 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: RWR8189
I'm betting this will be bogus. In order to NOT be bogus, the following conditions must be met:

(1) The originals are produced or their absence is satisfactorily explained.

(2) The source and provenance of the documents is given in detail WITH names and dates.

(3) There's a really impressive explanation for the uncanny resemblance between MS WORD and these documents.

(4) There's a really impressive explanation for how these got typed without error by a man who couldn't type.

49 posted on 09/10/2004 2:02:13 PM PDT by aBootes (Wake me up when a liberal has an original idea that does NOT involve raising taxes -- gunnygail)
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To: BJungNan

Not to mention the chances of the Air National Guard having an updated typewriter in a personnel shop is not very high. They got the leftovers from the AF when we replaced our typewriters.


50 posted on 09/10/2004 2:02:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Kerry is DOOMED!)
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