Actress Ellen Barkin Would Force Her Daughter to Have an Abortion

LifeNews.com ^ | September 10, 2004 | Steven Ertelt

[ravingnutter]

Imagine having to live with the fact that your mother wanted your child dead-- I can't.

It is my reality and it is hell. My mother forced me into an abortion 30 years ago. I ran away from home and did not go back for over 20 years and only then because my father was slowly dying of a Parkinson's-like disease (PSP), he died 3 years ago. My life was a living hell because of the abortion, I lost 4 other children due to miscarriages and almost lost my only daughter because I was so screwed up inside, not to mention the emotional aspect. I had constant nightmares about dead babies chasing me. The hatred I felt for her was consuming me. I finally had to turn it over to the Lord and take comfort in the fact that she would have to deal with Him when her time came. She finally apologized for it just last year, we are trying to mend our relationship now.

[Zack Nguyen]

I have no data on this, but I suspect that mothers strongly urge or force their teen daughters to have abortions more often than most of us suspect. Particularly when the pregnancy is in a "happy" family with a good image.

[stuartcr]

OK, that's good to hear. I'm not a doctor, and the subject of pregnancy doesn't normally enter my everyday life.

[Psalm 73]

"....something specific that would help the situation."

Yes, those ARE all specific prayer requests that will help the situation.
None of us really knows the dynamics of prayer - we just know that God tells us to pray, to pray often, and to be bold about it.

BTW - You have come a long way on the pro-life/abortion issue - I remember your comments on these threads from a few years ago - I see how your heart has softened. I am certain that you have been prayed for, and you've been keeping good company, too ; )

[Psalm 73]

"Why do you thing president Bush starts his mornings on his knees?"

Because he says he does, and uses Oswald Chambers for morning meditation. (He also acts like he does, too - it's the humility with a swagger thing)).

[Zack Nguyen]

God bless you.

[stuartcr]

That's nice that you say that, but I'm really pretty much the same person...I don't understand the abortion issue at all, and I certainly don't understand anything about being maternal. I agree with all, though, that it is murder.

By prayer helping the situation, I assume you mean that everyone will come to accept the new baby and love it as a family member?

[MarkL]

This really says a lot about Barkin... Up till this moment, I thought that she was one of the sexiest women ever on the screen (from "The Big Easy" and "Bad Company" - With Lawrence Fishburn, not the one with Anthony Hopkins and Chris Rock). Not any more!

For what it's worth, my best friend was in exactly that situation, although a bit older. When she was 14, she got pregnant, and her parents forced her to get an abortion. She was told that she would have the abortion, or she was to be kicked out, and disowned by her entire family. To say that she was damaged by he experience is a huge understatement. It's something that she thinks about nearly every day. Of course, as soon as she was old enough (16) she moved out and has been on her own ever since, with no contact with her family. And that's caused her plenty of problems as well, but that's another story.

Mark

[Question_Assumptions]

If you spend any time talking to the "pro-choice" people, you'll find out that it's not really about choice at all.

[Psalm 73]

"By prayer helping the situation, I assume you mean that everyone will come to accept the new baby and love it as a family member?"

If that is what you would pray for, sure, those are normal prayer requests.
And I'd add that God would grant us the wisdom and the strength to make the proper choices - to align our will with His.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Even Dr. Mengele took the young girls calmly, soothingly...

[<1/1,000,000th%]

She could abort her 12-year-old daughter and save herself the trouble. Isn't that just a "partial-birth abortion"?

[unlearner]

"Would that be legal?
Of course it's legal. On the other hand, it would be illegal to DENY an abortion to her."

Actually, no. This would be destroying evidence of a crime. But the problem with liberals in power is not always the laws but often the selective enforcement of them.

Of course legacy media will call this harlotwood movie star "pro-choice" even though they really are abortionists. Coercion is not pro-choice. Legacy media will never acknowledge someone to be "pro-life".

Teenagers and even twelve-year-old's have at least as much likelihood of healthy childbirth as other pregnant women AS LONG AS THEY GET PROPER MEDICAL CARE. I emphasize that because teen mothers often do not because of the stigma or because societal expectations.

By the way, most theologians believe Mary was between 12 and 14 when she was mother to Jesus. Early childbirth has been common in history. Delaying to marry and have children is the result of society moving from an agricultural to an industrial economy, resulting in requiring more education to make a living. The other factor was feminist influence of the late 1800's which asserted that thousands of teenage factory and office workers were being taken advantage of sexually. The outcome is the modern age-of-consent laws.

Before these laws, premarital sex was always the girl's fault. After these laws, it is always the man's fault.

Abortionists often claim a girl cannot give consent to have sex but can give consent to have an abortion.

This actress may have a daughter but does not know how to be a mother.

[Dianna]

women aged 30-34 had a modestly higher risk of dying from a pregnancy-related cause than women younger than 20 (1.4),

The phrase "younger than 20" can mean a lot of things. I suspect the vast majority of women referred to here were between 16 and 19. Has anyone looked at very young girls and pregnancy specifically?

What a hellish thing to have to contemplate.

[uncitizen]

Actress Ellen Barkin, who stars in the film "Palindromes," startled those attending the Venice Film Festival this week by saying she would force her daughter to have an abortion.

It's her daughters body not hers. Shouldn't her daughter be able to determine what happens to her own body?

[Prov3456]

Unfortunately, coerced abortion happens more often than most people realize.

The mother of the pregnant woman isn't the only person who may coerce abortion. It may also be the boyfriend (Jennifer O'Neill's experience), father of the baby (Rae Carruth), father or sibling of the pregnant woman, and others. In short, anyone who doesn't want the "hassle" of the pregnancy OR the pregnant woman.

See the website of the Elliot Institute for lots of interesting and informative information about "choice"

www.afterabortion.org

[Prov3456]

Thank you for your testimony. May the Lord enfold you with His love and forgiveness, and may He help you to forgive your mother and yourself.

America, this is what 31 years of "choice" has given this nation. May God have mercy on us all.

[Aquinasfan]

It is my reality and it is hell. My mother forced me into an abortion 30 years ago...

Bless you. Like I said, I can't even imagine.

But you can't go wrong in turning to the Lord. I'll keep you in my prayers.

[Aquinasfan]

Has anyone looked at very young girls and pregnancy specifically?

That's all I could find. But if God designed the female body to give birth at that age, then giving birth should be a perfectly healthy activity.

If the baby was the product of rape or incest, OTOH, that's a different story.

What a hellish thing to have to contemplate.

Pregnancy itself or the relationship that brought the baby into the world?