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Beslan Or Boise
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, September 8, 2004 | Editor

Posted on 09/08/2004 4:56:45 AM PDT by Isara

Terror: We're all thinking the same thing now, are we not? That the horror of Beslan could just as easily have been visited on any town or school in America, and that those poor innocent children could easily be our own.

What mother hasn't put herself in the place of those who waited outside that school, listening to the cries of their children as guns were waved in their faces, or urine was poured over their heads, or bayonets were thrust through their bodies as they begged for a little water?

What father hasn't felt that terrible feeling in the pit of his stomach as he reads of the teenage girls who were dragged screaming into rooms adjoining the gymnasium to be raped — and filmed while they were raped?

What parent hasn't shuddered when imagining what it would be like to be given the unthinkable choice of which of your children will be set free and which will be left in the terrorists' clutches?

And what parent hasn't wondered what he or she could have done to stop it, even if it meant stepping in front of the bullets that tore through the backs of the kids who ran when all hell broke loose?

After last week, does anyone — parent or no, American or no — still doubt that Islamo-Fascism is a scourge truly global in scope and just as virulent as the evils that had to be confronted in the last century?

Oh, spare us the homilies about the "religion of peace." We'll be more receptive when more Muslim groups break their deafening silence in the aftermath of the latest round of atrocities, or when clerics such as London-based Omar Bakri-Mohammed no longer condone similar hostage-taking in Britain as long as the cause is "just."

Spare us also the tales of courageous "separatists" and how they've struggled against a brutal regime, or how incompetent Russian authorities have been in this and other showdowns with them. Vladimir Putin's far from perfect, but nothing justifies what happened last week in North Ossetia.

The 9-11 attacks brought it home to America. Bali brought it home to Indonesia. Madrid brought it home to Spain. Now Beslan, on top of the two downed flights and a suicide bombing in Moscow, has brought it home to Russia.

How many times does it have to be "brought home" before civilized people everywhere realize that fanatics with nothing to live for are plotting the next Beslan — or worse — even as we speak?


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; indonesia; isarael; islamofascism; russia; spain; terror
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Madrid brought it home to Spain.

I'm not sure whether the spaniards really get it yet.

1 posted on 09/08/2004 4:56:45 AM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; livius; ...

Preach the New Crusade!


2 posted on 09/08/2004 4:59:11 AM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. +)
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To: Isara

Nope, Spain didn't get it. But look how long it took us to get it.


3 posted on 09/08/2004 5:06:52 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I'm Conspiracy Guy and I approve this message. "John Kerry is a liar!")
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To: narses
If I were Putin, I would be very tempted to set up vetting camps around the edges of Chechnya and give the Chechens a week or so to report to vetting camps, where each one could be interviewed and either released to go to another part of Russia (Siberia) if not involved or arrested if in any way involved with Chechen terrorism. Then impose a Carthegenian peach on Chechnya: anyone who didn't report for vetting would be killed, the cities, towns and village levelled, and the earth salted. No one would be allowed to live there under pain of death.

Oh, I know it's wrong to go so far, but somehow it has to be made clear to the Islamists that the price of their actions is not only their death (which they welcome), but the eradication of their families and the complete eradication of their culture and religion.

4 posted on 09/08/2004 5:10:34 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Isara
I'm not sure whether the spaniards really get it yet.

I'm not sure America really gets it yet, either.

5 posted on 09/08/2004 5:14:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Isara
"The 9-11 attacks brought it home to America."

For the liberal "side" of America, this no longer applies. For 90% of them, I'm not sure it ever did.

Sadly, the outright refusal to address this war for what it is--- a war against Islamic fascism--- will result in more innocents dying. When will we take the gloves off against these vicious psychotic bastards?
6 posted on 09/08/2004 5:15:19 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: Isara
... the horror of Beslan could just as easily have been visited on any town or school in America, and that those poor innocent children could easily be our own...

Our elected officials constantly spout: "Our children are our greatest asset!". Yet we protect our space shuttles better than "our greatest assets".

Our schools are wide open to this kind of attack. Hell, they're wide open to pedophiles and kidnappers.

We recently had a guy go to an elementary school, hang out for awhile and try to grab a little girl. The school is wide open, no security whatsoever.

Nothing was done in the aftermath to strengthen the security of our schools. The guy is still on the loose. Heads have been replanted in the sand.

8 posted on 09/08/2004 5:26:30 AM PDT by FReepaholic (George Bush: Saving your sorry butt whether you like it or not.)
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To: Isara
"That the horror of Beslan could just as easily have been visited on any town or school in America, and that those poor innocent children could easily be our own."

If this statement is true, then why do so many citizens advocate the unconstitutional disarming of fellow citizens?

9 posted on 09/08/2004 5:30:32 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: Isara

Every editorial I've seen from IBD has been exactly right, this one being no exception.

Some countries continue to think they can tiptoe around the problem. They might for a while, but it will catch up to them, and at that point it might be too late.


10 posted on 09/08/2004 5:48:23 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Isara
We're all thinking the same thing now, are we not? That the horror of Beslan could just as easily have been visited on any town or school in America, and that those poor innocent children could easily be our own.

Well, not just as easily. There was a lot of inside site preparation that happened in Beslan; the place was wired to explode before the kids even showed up, and an arsenal was installed beneath the floorboards of the gym.

But still, that it could happen here at all is unacceptable. The government should be promoting widespread concealed carry, and offering firearms training for free to all citizens.

11 posted on 09/08/2004 6:45:18 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Isara; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
The 9-11 attacks brought it home to America. Bali brought it home to Indonesia. Madrid brought it home to Spain. Now Beslan, on top of the two downed flights and a suicide bombing in Moscow, has brought it home to Russia.

The outcry from the Mullahs is deafening!

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


12 posted on 09/08/2004 7:16:31 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: Physicist
They had the men pull the stuff out from where it had been hidden and set it all up, after they took the school hostage.

I said later, if only the men, about 20 of them, had raised up right then and resisted, and the other adults joined them. Before the explosives were wired. Because they executed the men after they did the work they needed from them anyway.

13 posted on 09/08/2004 7:29:25 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: NYer
In the last few years, we hospital workers have undergone extensive training for civilians and responses to these kinds of acts. We have practise runs occasionally.

I am to put my life on the line and stand in front of someone trying to take a child out of the building or to set up a hostage situation. Not that it thrills me, but if each and every one of us did this, just resisted right from the beginning, the terrorists would not win.

I am firmly convinced this is the only way we can respond. Let them get everything set in place and take away your water and food for three days and you have already lost.

14 posted on 09/08/2004 7:32:31 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Common Sense 101
Sadly, the outright refusal to address this war for what it is--- a war against Islamic fascism--- will result in more innocents dying. When will we take the gloves off against these vicious psychotic bastards?

Exactly. If Russia woke up, and really joined us in this war on terror, and not sit and crtiticize our treatment of a former ally, we would do so much better.

Of course monkeys could come flying out of my "Kerry rice target".
15 posted on 09/08/2004 8:22:19 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: narses

Please put me on your ping list. Thank you.


16 posted on 09/08/2004 8:25:37 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Bandwidth is too good for these (L)users.)
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To: NYer
"What mother hasn't put herself in the place of those who waited outside that school, listening to the cries of their children as guns were waved in their faces, or urine was poured over their heads, or bayonets were thrust through their bodies as they begged for a little water?"

I am a mother and this is heart wrenching. The reality is we cannot back down or we will suffer the consequences. Kerry did not even mention the Russians in his "foreign relations" speech. It is clear that this father doesn't realize the importance of our national security. I cannot afford to let my children be protected by idiots like John Kerry. Please pray for W.
17 posted on 09/08/2004 8:41:55 AM PDT by Raquel (It's our security - stupid)
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To: CatoRenasci
"not only their death (which they welcome)"

I don't know why we don't bury any remains of terrorists inside the carcass of a pig -- a few public funerals might be effective.

Carolyn

18 posted on 09/08/2004 9:04:31 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: CDHart

Immolation of the corpse after it's been soaked in pork lard should be the standard method of disposal of these scum. Grind the charred bones into a paste with pigfat and feed it to pigs.


19 posted on 09/08/2004 9:54:13 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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Definitely. It's such an obvious way to go -- but not "politically correct" I guess.

Carolyn

20 posted on 09/08/2004 9:56:53 AM PDT by CDHart
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