Posted on 09/07/2004 12:13:33 PM PDT by sixxiron
I posted this late Sunday night and I thought it might get more traffic today. Here is the original post. W 2004!!!
With the new "dream team" of Carville and Begala in place, I thought it worthy of posting Carville's utter throwing away of Zell and his blaming Republicans for making Zell turn on his Dem buddies. Key points: Zell Miller was Carville's former employer and Miller officiated Carville and Matalins wedding!!! There is no bottom for Carville and this marks the beginning of the next phase in the battle for the White House. I wonder if Carl Rove forced Zell into writing a best-selling book which chronicled his disgust with his party more than a year ago.
Here is the transcript from MTP:
MR. RUSSERT: James Carville you ran that man's campaign for governor of Georgia in 1990.
MR. CARVILLE: Right, I did. It's a shame they put that poor man out there in the twilight of his career with a bunch of half-truths. Then they put him on TV after, out there making a fool of himself, and they're showing how he said, "Well, you said Kerry did this." It's the very thing that Dick Cheney recommended. "You said that he called them occupiers." In fact, President Bush had called them occupiers on three separate occasions.
You know, it's a shame, because Senator Miller's had a distinguished mid-career, and I'm very sad for him and the people that work for him that he's going to be remembered, as Joe Klein said, you know, probably the most, you know, hate-filled speech that he's ever seen at a convention. But the problem is, how does a man who sits on this thing, the vice president, who says that we expect to be greeted with roses and you said--you asked him in a follow-up question, "Well, suppose there's insurgents?" He said, "Tim, we don't expect that." How could he possibly, possibly question John Kerry's judgment about being fit to make decisions as a commander in chief?
The record of this administration is already out there. The president has admitted--and when it comes to the war on terror, in June, President Bush said, we can win the war on terror. By August, he had changed his mind and said we can't win the war on terror. So I think there are legitimate questions about judgment. I think there are legitimate questions that don't relate to what happened in Vietnam or not. But they relate to the record of this administration, the miscalculations, the errors and they are all in that report from this royal institute in London, that we've already lost this. We're not going to have a democracy there.
MR. RUSSERT: Mary Matalin, the vice president did say we'd be greeted as liberators, and now, Jim Schlesinger, Republican secretary of defense said that we are unprepared for the insurgency.
MS. MATALIN: We have never, ever, in our history or any history in war, found on the ground plans that went exactly as were planned. It's called the moment of contingency. We have said, the president has said, that the march to Baghdad was completed more expeditiously than had been expected. And it is true that Iraq's become a magnet for all the terrorist, and we do want to fight them there. We don't want to fight them here. And we are winning. This Iraq is in a relatively short period of time on the road to self-government.
MR. RUSSERT: Senator Miller, spitballs, weak, wobbly. Was he over the top?
MS. MATALIN: No, this is--you know, Senator Miller is a man of great passion. If you look at his 1992 keynote Democratic convention speech, he was equally passionate. This is a man who is angry at his party, his party who left him. He is a delightful and loving and wonderful man who officiate at our wedding.
MR. CARVILLE: I love Senator Zell. I'm just so angry at what those cynical Republicans did to him, putting him up. and making him stay stuff that is indefensible.
MS. MATALIN: Well, you know, Senator Miller...
MR. CARVILLE: ...sticking him on TV when he was questioned on it...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller, since he's been in office, has been with the president. I saw him regularly on the Hill when I would go up there with the vice president. He was disappointed with his party on economic issues, on these issues of war and peace. He is a wonderful senator. He is a passionate man, brought just as much passion to the Democratic convention in 1992 and these guys just don't like the truth.
MR. RUSSERT: We've got to...
MR. CARVILLE: The difference is when Paul wrote Senator Miller's speech in '92 it was based on fact. When Karl Rove wrote Senator Miller's speech in 2004...
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
MR. CARVILLE: ...it was based on no fact.
MS. MATALIN: I think I know who wrote Miller's speech.
MR. CARVILLE: You know?
MS. MATALIN: Senator Miller wrote his own speech.
Yeah saw it... Trying to say Zell didn't know what he was saying...
Seems to me Carville is trying to imply Zell is afflicted with senile dementia. He's a fine one to talk.
That must be some strange marriage
I saw the show. I think Carville was new to the american population a few years ago. Now he's just another freak that people write off.
I can't for the life of me understand, why Mrs. Carville has such access to the VP. She's a security risk whose judgement is suspect.
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Carville/Matlin...never have to worry about family income...one is always working when their party is in.
I think Mary wears the pants in that household & sees his politics as live entertainment.
If Carville and Begala continue to show up on CNN all the time, we need to really protest to the network and the FEC. It is free political advertising.
Who cares what these two think anymore than those of the Klintoons & Kerrys.
Commies in USSR used to accuse those who try to leave the communist party as insane. Looks like there is another similarity to Democrats and Commies.
Who cares what CNN does. Who cares about these two. The are negatives. Let them continue to put pubbies in office. That's one of the Klintoon legacies - more pubbies in office while they continue yapping.
It is just a shtick.
Carville Throws Zell Overboard
does this mean sKerry will run away, circle back and
pick up Zell from the water? (all while bleeding profusely
and taking fire)
I've heard Mary say they do NOT ever talk politics at home or in their personal lives. That would be the ONLY way these two could stay married, IMHO.
Funny, it struck me that Zell had been doin' the throwin'
Good Point!
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