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1 posted on 09/07/2004 3:06:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Horseface will either be completely paralyzed, not knowing which of his Heinz 87 positions is the "right one" to give in response, or will stick his foot in his mouth again and again.


2 posted on 09/07/2004 3:22:24 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Cincy, I just don't think the debates carry the weight they used to, except with the chattering classes who like to talk among themselves endlessly about stuff most people aren't interested in.

To put it another way, I think most Americans today see anything and everything they view on TV as entertainment- it's all of equally little value, except for titillation or a laugh.

Unless one candidate really screws up. ala Al Gore in 2000, it won't mean much.

3 posted on 09/07/2004 3:34:17 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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According to Kerry's personal friend and debating coach at Yale, only William F. Buckley was better than Kerry. Rollin Osterweis felt there were none better than Buckley and then Kerry. But I watched as O'Neill debated the issues with Kerry in the 70's and I didn't get the feeling that Kerry was superior in any way. And now we see Kerry coming unglued in this campaign. It will be interesting to see these debates between Bush and Kerry, for sure.

The Kerry campaign is trying to lower the bar for Kerry by talking up Bush's debating skill. My own feeling about it is Bush is in command of the issues and is more likely to give a straight story. Kerry has changed his position on many of the issues and it makes it much more difficult to be coherent. Plus, Bush is far more likeable. Kerry is arrogant and aloof. Kerry has that aristocratic european fringe about him that most Americans just aren't into. The way Osterweis scores a winner is likely very different then the way you or I might. That said, I think Bush might just walk away with these debates. Easily.


4 posted on 09/07/2004 3:34:44 AM PDT by MistyCA
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And from there he went on to win the election - barely.

You should properly rephrase this to: He went on to win the election by voter Fraud. Had Nixon been of such low moral character as Al Gore he could have contested the election and would have WON. Nixon knew unlike Gore that while this was undeniably true it would have harmed the country so he stepped aside and ran again later.

9 posted on 09/07/2004 3:39:44 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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Kerry definately CANNOT win the debates on charm or looks. Bush has him beat in both areas hands down. I don't see Bush having a major misstep in the debates either.

Every question asked Bush can simply point out the LACK of a Kerry record on the topic (in spite of 20 years in the Senate) or the repeated waffling on it by Kerry over the past 20 years.... Kerry will be on the defensive throughout the debate if the moderators ask anything remotely relevant.


11 posted on 09/07/2004 3:42:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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WHO will be the moderators? That makes alll the difference! Brit Hume better be there!
13 posted on 09/07/2004 3:44:09 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Free Martha Mitchell......... and Jail Teraaaaaayza)
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Expect Kerry to handed his own ass on a plate!


19 posted on 09/07/2004 3:53:46 AM PDT by Bommer (John Kerry is a Vietnam Traitor)
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I expect the debates to be a fight for the middle/undecided. If they turn-out to be anything more, I will be pleasantly surprised.


22 posted on 09/07/2004 3:58:24 AM PDT by GVnana
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Expect the Unexpected

Bush: Before we get started, I got someone here I'd like y'all to meet. Could you guys bring Mr. Bin Laden out here please?

28 posted on 09/07/2004 4:16:46 AM PDT by NeonKnight
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The debates bother me. Bush will look like a short little man next to lurch, and I hope it does not make him look like Dean did.


31 posted on 09/07/2004 4:19:26 AM PDT by freeplancer
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The writer needs to check his facts.

The Nixon-Kennedy Debates had zero to do with the election of Kennedy; voter fraud had everything to do with it in Cook County, ILL, and elsewhere. The debates were merely public perception and window dressing.


34 posted on 09/07/2004 4:25:56 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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I think the only debate that really matters is the first debate. That's the one where the undecideds will get the chance to size up the candidates one on one. If Bush is seen as the winner or as holding his own, that's all that matters, IMO. The other debates will be anti-climactic.

Actually, I am looking forward more to the VP debate. Expecting some priceless Cheney quotes to come out of that one.


35 posted on 09/07/2004 4:31:35 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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Kerry might be easy to rile up. He will be vulnerable on Iraq, Flip-flops, gay marriage, etc.

I hope Bush just plays it straight and cool, but at the same time not too shy about hitting it pretty heavy on Kerry's inconsistency.

Bush needs to be prepared (while not getting dragged down into the details) for a severe attack on the economy, and be ready to point out the Clinton years having more unemployment, etc.

38 posted on 09/07/2004 4:50:16 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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39 posted on 09/07/2004 4:51:32 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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IMHO, these debates will be meaningless. Other than to reinforce Kerry's constant blowing in the wind.


41 posted on 09/07/2004 5:01:48 AM PDT by OldFriend (GIVE EM ZELL)
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[Bush] may not understand or deal with nuance the way Kerry does

Hm. A subtle way of saying Kerry's smarter. I just don't see that. Kerry is more "arrogant," but "smarter"? Suppose it depends on how one defines "smart"....

46 posted on 09/07/2004 6:15:49 AM PDT by Theo
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Nixon was supposed to demolish Mr. Kennedy. At least, that was the talk among the press - and hence that was the opinion that the public was reading and hearing.

Just goes to show, it it goes back at least 30 years, DON'T TRUST THE PRESS.

The media is almost always wrong. they think Kerry is ahead and will win. Imagine their "surprise" when Bush wins in a landslide. The only other people who will be surprised are the people who rely only on NBC, CBS, and ABC and AP stories in their local papers.

51 posted on 09/07/2004 7:26:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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There's a little-reported fact about Bush's campaign stops, that will probably be the deciding factor in these charades they call "presidential debates."

One of the things Bush does, is take unscripted questions from the crowd. Apparently this is a pretty standard thing. What that means is, he's been practicing for the debates for months, now. He's not only figured out what people are interested in, he's also figured out how to answer these questions in an affable, understandable manner. (You see the positive results of this at work in his more recent press conferences.)

Kerry's going to come off as a stilted, pompous ass.

52 posted on 09/07/2004 7:33:39 AM PDT by r9etb
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Kerry's handlers will warn him to avoid long, run-on sentences. They will instruct him how to avoid looking pompous and condescending. Kerry's handlers will give him jokes, snappy one-liners, but he'll blow the delivery. Kerry's wild hand and arm gestures will look even more out of sync in a debate than they do in campaign speeches. Kerry's disdain for Bush will look like disrespect for the presidency. Kerry will lose his temper.

Bush will be Bush. Voters will join Poppy Bush in saying, "That's my boy!

59 posted on 09/07/2004 11:06:02 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@Real, Genuine, Authentic, Not A Phoney Bone In Bush's Body.com)
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From my experience with Kerry's debating style, he leads with his arrogance. He doesn't expect anyone to mount a successful challenge to any of his positions because he is, after all, JOHN KERRY. His advisers will tell him to can the arrogance, and act natural and friendly.

Well, Kerry may try to do that, but it isn't in him. Arrogance is his normal state. Natural and friendly are not normal to Kerry. I think he will provide enough glimpses of the real John Kerry to drive his numbers into Dukakis-ville.

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65 posted on 09/07/2004 2:31:38 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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