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Pentagon to check Kerry war record
Telegraph (UK) ^

Posted on 09/05/2004 5:02:05 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA

This is huge! Leading UK newspaper reports that the Pentagon's inspector general is going to investigate ALL of Kerry's decorations and citations. John Lehmann quoted as saying he never signed Silver Start citation in 1986.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boat; kerry; medalprobe; medals; swift; truth
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1 posted on 09/05/2004 5:02:06 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

I'm not sure I like the idea of the military interfering in any way with a presidential election. Unless Kerry wants them to continue, they should probably postpone the investigation until after the election.


2 posted on 09/05/2004 5:05:19 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

Shhh one long time poster clued me in that those are autopenned so it's not exactly earthshaking...but hey..I'm enjoying it anyway.


3 posted on 09/05/2004 5:05:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
This is huge!

This is HUGH!


4 posted on 09/05/2004 5:05:26 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: xm177e2

Say what? You think Senator Kerry should have the power to control the timing of an investigation which is about the integrity and accuracy of military records?


5 posted on 09/05/2004 5:06:43 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: MEG33

Byt don't Autopens have to be authorized? Apparently, John Lehman did not authorize this award of the Silver Star.


6 posted on 09/05/2004 5:07:15 AM PDT by marvlus
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

Whoa! (not as in 'stop', but as in 'wow'.) That is big.


7 posted on 09/05/2004 5:07:33 AM PDT by theDentist ("John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute.")
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
This should be stopped immediately.

These are commissioned officers who serve at the pleasure of the President of the United States, and this could be construed as interfering in an election.

If the circumstances were reversed, I would be outraged.

8 posted on 09/05/2004 5:08:30 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Hillary becomes the RAT candidate on October 9. You saw it here first.)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
In an angry statement from the Kerry campaign headquarters, Michael Meehan, Mr Kerry's senior adviser, condemned the navy probe as an expensive waste of the Pentagon's resources

"The facts are clear," said Mr Meehan. "The navy awarded John Kerry the Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Combat V and three Purple Hearts. This is a waste of taxpayers' dollars and the Pentagon's time, especially during wartime."

Nothing to see here folks...move along.

9 posted on 09/05/2004 5:10:30 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (JFKerry led the "spit-fest" on Viet Nam Vets.)
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To: marvlus
Hey, he already had the Silver Star. What we have here is a revision to the original citation.

I see the hand of that famous military personnel records specialist SANDY BERGER in this.

10 posted on 09/05/2004 5:11:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Noble

Interfering my foot!

This is a legitimate investigation into the pssible criminal actions of a person who wants to be President!

This is a MANDATORY investigation into whether this man has the moral authority to lead this country!

Our nation's refusal to do this to Clinton lead to 8 years of ineptitude and the adolesence of Islamic Terrorism!


11 posted on 09/05/2004 5:11:56 AM PDT by RaceBannon (KERRY FLED . . . WHILE GOOD MEN BLED!!)
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA

Why is this coming from the UK?!


12 posted on 09/05/2004 5:12:01 AM PDT by johnny7 (“C'mon... you sons-'o-bitches wanna live forever?!” -'Fighting' Dan Daley USMC)
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To: Jim Noble

From the story: "A navy spokesman confirmed on Friday that the inspector-general's office at the Pentagon had authorised the inquiry. "It is the responsibility of all personnel to correct errors in official records," said the spokesman. Another official said privately: "There's a feeling that it's time to deal with this thoroughly, once and for all."

"Among other records to be examined is a citation of Mr Kerry for bravery that was apparently signed by the former Navy Secretary, John Lehman, and contributed to the award of his silver star. The glowing citation states: "By his brave actions, bold initiative and unwavering devotion to duty, Lt Kerry reflected great credit on himself." But Mr Lehman denies all knowledge of the commendation. "It's a total mystery to me," he said last week. "I never saw it, I never signed it and I never approved it." The inquiry will also investigate other reports and citations leading to the award of Mr Kerry's medals.

"On Friday, Mr Lehman endorsed the investigation of Mr Kerry's awards, saying that the relevant navy records needed to be "thoroughly researched and the facts established". Mr Fitton said: "We hope this is the beginning of an actual investigation of the legitimacy of Sen Kerry's awards by the navy and the Pentagon."

This is about the integrity of records. Even John Lehman agrees this needs to be investigated. I cannot understand why anyone thinks this should be postponed for political reasons -- unless you think the Paula Jones case should also have been postponed until Clinton left office.


13 posted on 09/05/2004 5:12:02 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: marvlus

Hugh too?


14 posted on 09/05/2004 5:12:41 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("And oftentimes, to win us to our harm, the instruments of darkness tell us truths")
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To: johnny7

You think the MSM in America will cover this?


15 posted on 09/05/2004 5:12:47 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Jim Noble
The Buddies from Judicial Watch had something to do with this.
16 posted on 09/05/2004 5:12:51 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Jim Noble

Apparently it is SOP for someone to investigate alleged errors or misdeeds within the military. The fact that this is about the awarding of medals, and it pertains to a candidate for POTUS, does not and should not justify any departure from the established rules and regs.


17 posted on 09/05/2004 5:13:37 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ
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To: Viet Vet in Augusta GA
I'm delighted to see this is spreading to the international media. Maybe the American MSM will eventually be forced to catch up with them and report it themselves.

I note that the Telegraph doesn't even try to hide their hostility toward this inquiry...

"The highly unusual inquiry..."

    These inquiries have occured many times. Contrary to what the Telegraph is implying, the Navy is not "out to get" John Kerry. They are doing their job -- probably a novel concept to the scribblers at the Telegraph.
"According to a self-styled group of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, many of whom served in Vietnam during the same period..."

    Self-styled? Oh, that's cute.

    And "many" of them served in VN? How about all?


18 posted on 09/05/2004 5:13:39 AM PDT by Bonaparte (and guess who sighs his lullabies, to nights that never end...)
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"The navy awarded John Kerry the Silver Star, a Bronze Star with Combat V and three Purple Hearts."

I thought Kerry claims he got 2 Bronze Stars. Apparently his campaign manager hasn't heard that yet. Either way, the Navy would be interfering with an election if it DIDN'T investigate now. They can't chose the timing. They just have to follow regulations...which they are doing.

19 posted on 09/05/2004 5:14:31 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: Bonaparte

Telegraph is actually a conservative paper (in the UK newspapers are open and forthright about their political stances; no pretenses of objectivity)


20 posted on 09/05/2004 5:14:44 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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