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I Predict The Russian Attack is Just the Beginning!
Sept 4, 2004 | Vanity

Posted on 09/04/2004 2:35:18 AM PDT by Cyclops08

Now we know that Al Queda is involved. We know this attack was mastermined by one of Ossama's top men.

----I think this attack was a test. It is a precursor of things to come.-----

Unlike gov't buildings there is a school on every corner, ---you can't protect them all!--- This action also puts the gov't on the spot. It demands total capitulation to the terrorists or the kids die. In other words this terror tactic FORCES the gov't to charge. In Russia the terrorists demanded not just the release of comrads in jail, but the complete withdrawal ot troops from Chechnya. If any gov't does that, Al Queda knows it now owns a puppet on a string.

By forcing the gov't to attack a school rigged with bombs, a great toll of human life is taken. The terrorists know they are not going to live thru this. BUT, this makes emotional parents blame the gov't, and NOT Al Queda for the carnage-or so they hope. I think the goal here is to weaken a gov't by evaporating the peoples trust in it ("why couldn't they save the kids?!").

Look at what the terrorists did. The kids were not allowed to eat or drink for three days. ---There was never any intention to let the kids live.--- This entire terror act was premeditated murder from minute one.

Its a No-Win scenerio. The World's horror makes this a rousing success for Al Queda. Because it cannot be defended against, you can expect to see this happen again, and again, and again. ---> BTW, notice the great silence from muslin clerics about this. There was no great cry from Saudi Arabia, or Jordan, or Eqypt to "Let the children go!" Islam IS the enemy...

This is yet another reason to vote for George W Bush. He will fight the terrorists, Kerry won't.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: alqueda; cair; cairsilentonchechnya; russia; silenceissupport; silenceofcair; terror; whereiscair
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1 posted on 09/04/2004 2:35:19 AM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Cyclops08

"Islam IS the enemy..."

So it appears to be.


2 posted on 09/04/2004 2:42:45 AM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: Cyclops08
By forcing the gov't to attack a school rigged with bombs, a great toll of human life is taken.

I think immediate response has to happen. Immediate. Before they set up their bombs and separate the men and women and children and kill the strong men and make their sham demands.

Less will die that way than waiting.

GLOBAL JIHAD Chechen terrorists follow al-Qaida manual Russia school hostage-takers' cues from online playbook

3 posted on 09/04/2004 2:44:10 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Cyclops08

There should not have been any terrorists in jail whose release could be demanded - they should have been executed to begin with.


4 posted on 09/04/2004 2:44:58 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Time's fun when you're having flies. -- Kermit the Frog)
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To: Cyclops08
Because it cannot be defended against, you can expect to see this happen again, and again, and again.

It can be defended against. But at the moment the civilized world lacks the will to do what needs to be done; namely, the extermination of the subhuman scum. I think that'll very likely change if attacks like this continue.

5 posted on 09/04/2004 2:46:12 AM PDT by LibWhacker (It is the black heart of Islam, not its black face, to which millions object)
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To: Cyclops08

I seem to recall the common sense argument that some adults in every school in America should be armed. It's that little notion of self defense. Terrorists can't rig explosives to blow up your children if they are dead on the floor, riddled with bullets.


6 posted on 09/04/2004 2:48:56 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Cyclops08
The attack on the school was not the beginning. It is part of the middle. This terror war has been going on for a very long time. Do you remember the Opera House takeover over a year ago? Terror attacks with deaths in the hundreds are not unusual for Russia. The war has been going on for a very long time, and will continue for a very long time.
7 posted on 09/04/2004 2:52:55 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Cyclops08
I have a feeling the Russkies are going to take retaliatory action a lot faster than we would have.
8 posted on 09/04/2004 3:02:32 AM PDT by JimVT (I was born a Democrat..but then I grew up)
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Would that it were true. Unfortunately, the Russian military appears to be in pretty bad shape. They have yet to get over their Vietnam (Afghanistan). But this might be enough to get them to focus.


9 posted on 09/04/2004 3:07:27 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Cyclops08

This tactic will be the beginning of the end for Islam. A religion without moral authority has nothing. It will take generations for the corpse to rot, but it is dead.


10 posted on 09/04/2004 3:09:28 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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To: Cyclops08
Looked much more like an attack than a "test".

Here's what's going on in this sort of thing ~ to shoot young children in the back you have to overcome your built in moral standards, one of which is to "protect the young".

This takes an overwhelming threat to one's own person, or an ideological standard that identifies your targets as somehow not being human.

Islam provides both.

11 posted on 09/04/2004 3:16:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cyclops08

Does anyone out there think that the timing of this event had nothing to do with the Republican convention?

And that the ending of this event had nothing to do with the ending of the Republican convention.

They started the shootout just as the morning was breaking on the east coast in an effort to damage the convention. They have underestimated the US people.


12 posted on 09/04/2004 3:20:00 AM PDT by stockpirate ("Kerry, backed by, supported by, lead by, funded by, admired by, COMMUNISTS!" It's about VVAW)
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Does anyone out there think that the timing of this event had nothing to do with the Republican convention?

Right. Terror by proxy. Attack the Russian children to drive a stake through the heart of George Bush.

Peddle that guilt elsewhere for it won't sell here.

13 posted on 09/04/2004 3:22:01 AM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: tallhappy
re: "I think immediate response has to happen"

As desirable and effective that policy might be it's a hard one to impose. Columbine is a good example. The first responders were reluctant to enter the school until backup arrived. They could hear the shooting going on inside but would not enter to investigate. Few areas have sufficient resources to mount a counter attack in less than a couple of hours, and that's more than sufficient time for the aggressors to do whatever it takes to solidify their position. The kids at Columbine chose to use that time to shoot classmates who professed their faith in God, the animals in Russia felt it was time better spent assuring the terror would outlive them. My wife has been a preschool program director for over 30 years and we have known for the last 10 years just how vulnerable our schools and preschools are to terrorism. Simultaneous drive-by attacks on multiple playgrounds during recess would be so very easy and impossible to protect against. If we are ever going to live without the threat of this kind of terror we are going to have to go after these animals at the source of the problem, those at the top who finance and direct their worldwide network.
14 posted on 09/04/2004 3:28:41 AM PDT by jwpjr
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To: Cyclops08
---you can't protect them all!---

The overwhelming majority of us do just that!

15 posted on 09/04/2004 3:36:39 AM PDT by Nova
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To: Cyclops08

As soon as we re-elect the President, he can go back on the offensive. The more we run the score up, the stronger a hand he can play. Get out the vote.


16 posted on 09/04/2004 3:45:48 AM PDT by johnb838 (As soon as we re-elect the President, he can get back to killing slamics)
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To: stockpirate
Does anyone out there think that the timing of this event had nothing to do with the Republican convention?

I don't know, but if this had happened in the U.S. the MSM would have blamed President Bush. Hell, they may blame him anyway.

17 posted on 09/04/2004 3:55:22 AM PDT by libertylover (The Constitution is a road-map to liberty. Let's start following it again.)
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To: johnb838; All

If I could have 5 minutes with GWB,(like thats gonna happen),here is what I would tell him:

GWB should be on the "Red Phone" ASAP with Putin, and ask him if he is NOW ready to join the "Coalition of the Willing" in the world wide fight against terrorism.

GWB should say "If you are, the US will back you 100% in the UN and against the EU , while you PERMANENTLY take care of your terrorist "problem" IF.....AND ONLY IF...

Russia will back theUS 100% in the UN and against the EU "bunch" while the US,(with 24hours notice so Putin can get his "workers" out) PERMANENTLY takes care of Iran's nuclear "program".

If such an agreement could be made, Russia wins BIG by making the Russian people and their country FINALLY free of their "main terrorist problems" and maybe more "investments"
will happen there because it would be a lot safer, making their economy and country worth taking a monetary "risk" with, making a VERY strong case for Russia and Putin to FINALLY become a part of the "team".

The US would greatly benifit, as the Iranians would be given the "signal" to shed themselves of their oppressive government,which would then no longer be able to keep Iraq in such an unstable state, making the "trifecta" complete a LOT sooner that it looks like it would be completed at present.

The Saudis would maybe FINALLY "get on board" and "clean house"......

...Syria would surely know that THEY ARE NEXT, and MAYBE
suddenly "discover"( like Hillary's "discovery" of those "lost" FBI files,) those WMD's that Saddam gave them for "safe keeping".

......Hamas AND Arafat,would REALLY be feeling "quite
lonely" monetarily, AND in the WMD department....

...and I would wager little Kimmey-Jong would probably be like a B.F.Skinner rat in whatever maze we decided he should be put in, as he would be the the LAST AXIS-OF-EVIL left, with hardly any "customers" with any REAL money, to buy any of his very disruptive "toys" that he NEEDS the financial benifits from to keep him in power....

...and then Pakistan could FINALLY be free enough at that point to "take care of their terorist "biz".

...and one other little plus... oil would no longer be able to be used as an "infidel blackmailing tool" by the Mecca and Medina "crowd, and "gasoline prices might PERMANENTLY become a stable and fairly priced world wide commodity,( quite a "positive" thing if it did.)


....and if this could be worked out RIGHT NOW while the pictures and news of the "school incident" are FRESH in the
minds of the world at large, and (in MY "perfect VRWC Freeper world") say before the end of September (which would spoil lil' kimmy jongs planned "October Surprise").....

..do you think the TRAIN LOAD OF DEMS on their way to the "funny farm" will still want to hear their 2004 presidential candidate, "Smith-Corona-Rambo", aka jf'n, how he woulnd have done ALL of the above "differently", in sort of a "Silver Star with a "V" for Valor kind of way ???



18 posted on 09/04/2004 4:05:48 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Cyclops08
In taking on the Russians the Moslems are going against an enemy not terribly more civilized than the Moslems, at least in their approach to war.

It is not to our advantage to sit around now and let the Russians win this war on their own. They will then be the threat to us that the USSR was. I do not refer here to the skirmishes in Chechnya but to the wider Islamic War. Russia must be induced to limit its responsibility to the Islamists within its own borders. We do that by continuing to vigorously pursue the war in the rest of the world ourselves. That means dealing soon with Korea and Iran.

19 posted on 09/04/2004 4:08:41 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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20 posted on 09/04/2004 4:12:53 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong la nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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