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Freeper Says she's sorry to Vietnam Vets. Many who believed Kerry and VVAW lies, now are crying.
Free Republic | 8/27/2004 | Freeper

Posted on 08/29/2004 4:44:09 AM PDT by stockpirate

To: stockpirate I am not sure this is the proper place to put this...but here goes... To All The Vets of Viet Nam,

I was born in 1955, a baby boomer...into an alcoholic and abusive family. I was 14 years old when Woodstock rocked this nation. I remember standing in front of a 12" black and white set watching it unfold on the 6 o'clock news. I also remember my father using the term..".long haired hippie pukes" and being totally disgusted with the whole mess. Being 14 with a father who like to use his fists..I naturally rejected anything he said as any kind of truth. He had lost my affection and my trust many years ago. My father also told the story of being wounded in the Korean war...he even had a scar to prove it. I later found out when I got older, that he had spent the entire war in England..so much for his credibilty.

My mother thought it would be good to alert me at that tender age of 14 about the drug scene that was waiting to prey upon me. She handed me a bunch of Life magazines with an expose of the underground culture of drugs. Living in a small town in Central NY..this was definitely a foreign concept. I was mesmerized by the pictures of hippies and the freedom they appeared to have. Oh how I longed to have a place in this world where I could breathe without fear of being hit. I was ripe for the picking.Within 6 months I found myself hobknobbing with drug dealers and the like.

The next couple of years I was entrenched in the drug scene..my friends were of like thinking..we had all bought into the Love, Peace, Free Sex and drugs doctrine being perpetuated on the youth of this nation. I became a sympathizer of the likes of Abby Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. Their books became gospel for me....I devoured the book.."Soul on Ice" by Eldredge Cleaver. I hated the Viet Nam war...not because of it's political significance...but the idea of war and chaos in general. I had seen too much of that as I was growing up...I longed for peace in my soul. I drank and drugged to relieve some of the inner pain.

I bought into anything that my father hated....and hated anything he bought into. My father was a veteran and stood by the President..even though he was a democrat.....He stood by his brothers in arms. So it was natural for me to take the opposing view. I hated war. Our little town had 3 casualties in the Viet Nam war..two of whom rode on my school bus....they were older than me but each had made a distinct impression on me as I rode the bus....I remember Joe who used to make the sound of a cricket as he ran his fingers along the roof of the bus...he was so tall!!..and Ron was the cute older brther of my sister's friend. Both gone, both dead and for what purpose? My teenaged brain couldn't comprehend the whole idea of death and war.

In 1975, I was 20 years old...a survivor of years of self abuse through my reckless lifestyle..and now a mother of two children. I sat in front of another TV and watched as they were airlifting people out of Saigon. A plane full of refugees were taking off when the plane, carrying children, crashed on takeoff. I sat in front of the TV set and cried...sobs coming from somewhere so deep inside of me....I realised as I was sitting there...that this was the first time I had ever cried for anyone else but myself. My heart was starting to unthaw from years of guarding it.

When the war ended I didn't abuse the vets who had served bravely for my country, no my attitude was worse than any abuse bestowed on them...mine was one of indifference, one of apathy, a "so what and who cares attitude." I never spoke a word that brought shame to a vet, but my heart was full of hatred for anyone who would willingly go and make war.

On Memorial Day, my father would put on his legion uniform and march in the parade and shoot his gun off at the village green in remembrance of those fallen. I watched with a mocking spirit within me. It was a big deal to him (dad) when he became post commander..all I could see was another opportunity for him to drink. I saw him as a hypocrit..a man who espoused peace and freedom ...who oppressed his family with violence and bondage.

But something happened to me over the years...an ideological change, a paradigm shift of thought. I woke up in the mid 1990's and I found myself with the same ideals my father had about his country. I fell in love with where I live and what it stands for. Maybe it was watching my children growing up and wanting better for them or Maybe it was watching CNN during the first Gulf war knowing my brother was in a tank somewhere inside Iraq... or maybe it was the day I sent my youngest son off to the Marines for safe keeping. Maybe it was coming to have faith in Christ. But something definitely changed within me. Maybe it was turning off the TV for a moment and allowing God to speak to me without all the static.

I joined Free Republic over a year ago at the request of a friend. And today I watched a video clip of the VVAW throwing their medals. I must have watched it 6 times. It was this clip that prompted me to write this piece. After so many years I wonder if it would really make any difference to the men and women who served our country by going to Viet nam, if I were to say.. from the bottom of my heart...that I AM SO SORRY for not giving you the Honor you so richly deserve. I am sorry for the indifference I showed you when you returned...of turning my eyes and closing my ears.. when I heard a derogatory remark aimed at you. Would it make a difference if I told you that I am proud of the service you gave to us on behalf of our freedom..that I appreciate your sacrifices and the blood shed for the freedom we all share today. It is 30 years late but I couldn't let another day pass with writing these thoughts down.Please Forgive Me.....


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To: BykrBayb

Well I am sorry you can't keep up. I guess.


261 posted on 08/29/2004 7:59:42 PM PDT by JLO
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To: JLO

If you can't speak English, please quit posting to me. You're wasting my time.


262 posted on 08/29/2004 8:01:42 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

I don't have a clue...

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You said it yourself - BykrBayb - LOL! Man, you are too easy! LOL!!!!!!!!!!


263 posted on 08/29/2004 8:04:16 PM PDT by JLO
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To: JLO

Are you incapable of reading the entire post? Or are you just deliberately misrepresenting what was written? Let me be very clear what I'm saying. You are either illiterate, dishonest, or both.


264 posted on 08/29/2004 8:07:01 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb

WAAAA!

Man,you're a hoot!

LOL!


265 posted on 08/29/2004 8:07:42 PM PDT by JLO
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To: JLO; BykrBayb

JLO, do not post to BykrBayb.


267 posted on 08/29/2004 8:32:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: BykrBayb; All

I have never ever beaten around the bush.
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What about you - here???

What you said:
-- You know what? I didn't buy it either. I think that guy was just trying to be melodramatic. I'm sure he had no intention of actually carrying out the threat. So I agree with you on that point. Unless you're still beating around the bush, and refraining from saying what you really mean.


268 posted on 08/29/2004 8:33:11 PM PDT by JLO
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To: Admin Moderator

Ok I won't. Can you please explain why? Fair question.


269 posted on 08/29/2004 8:36:34 PM PDT by JLO
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To: Admin Moderator

OK - Thanks a bunch.

Got it.


270 posted on 08/29/2004 9:04:50 PM PDT by JLO
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; stockpirate
Thanks for the ping Tonk. Thanks stockpirate for sharing. Please let the author know that the emotions from this history of Vietnam are shared by many, many people. I am of the same generation as the author, but I was lucky. Being a child of a Navy veteran of WWII, and a very beautiful and responsible mother, I was taught a measure of respect for our veterans and soldiers. My parents chose to not have the media color and direct my place in the world by turning off the television at 6:00 p.m. I was taught to respect the person I was addressing. My parents never said an objectionable word against our Vietnam veterans, and they absolutely did not discuss how the media was portraying "The War" in Vietnam. I was able to choose, as an adult, an educated view of our Country's participation in Vietnam.

We are all fortunate here that we have the ability to help correct the betrayal that JFKerry began, and has perpetuated, as early as 1962 when he joined Ted Kennedy's political entrapment. Kerry has been groomed for this moment in time for 40+ years. There is almost a half-century of deception from democrats (way more, but in the context of Vietnam, we will stick to this time frame), a groundwork that has been laid to lure honest American people into believing their lies, and an agenda of socialist mentality that democrats have tried to shove down our throats, and we do not have to accept this manipulation. Our Vietnam Veterans deserve our absolute support. In an age where their service to our Country was questioned 35 years ago, we are now in an age of truth, the veterans of Vietnam get to speak the truths of what they know, and get to expose JFKerry for the traitor we all know him to be.
271 posted on 08/29/2004 9:17:29 PM PDT by laurenmarlowe
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To: laurenmarlowe

Time to turn up the heat on Kerry's anti war protests!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1202515/posts


272 posted on 08/29/2004 9:28:10 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hippie Dippie Hanoi Kerry and Hippie Dippie Hanoi Jane sitting in a tree! F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: stockpirate
"...Maybe it was coming to have faith in Christ."

Maybe??? - How could she fail to realize that the central issue with all leftists, and America-haters is their rejection of the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

This is the very essence of the war that every one of is fighting every day, whether it is presidential politics, property rights, or the cannard of 'free trade,' the real attack is against the Gospel.

273 posted on 08/29/2004 10:13:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (There are thousands of men of higher moral character than Hanoi John Kerry waiting on Death Row)
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To: stockpirate

Thank you for sharing this.. may God bless you.

I too went through a change several years ago after having something really horrible happen to me. My life was filled so much hatred and simply not caring. I don't even think I could explain in words. I woke up thanks to finding my husband and God and my whole outlook on life has changed.


274 posted on 08/29/2004 10:25:19 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: editor-surveyor

Dear Editor-surveyor,
I am the author of the post you have commented on and I want to clarify something with you....there was a turning point in my life that began in 1975 when I watched that plane full of kids crash...I had spent the first 20 years building walls of protection that I found it difficult to express any kind of positive emotions..rage and anger came easily but compassion for my fellow man was at zero level....

I am glad you had a good upbringing with stablility...I did not..my life was a constant what if...what if dad's in a bad mood...what if something went wrong at work....questions a little kid shouldn't have to worry about...but with an alcoholic the questions were faced on a daily basis...I learned to mistrust everyone. Dad could be smiling.. when something would trigger him and you got the end of his hand.

1975 was a turning point for me...I had two children who I swore would never feel the wrath that I felt..I loved them and hugged them as a mom ought to and they, in themselves, started the breaking of my tough exterior.

There were many cascading events in my life after that...I came to know Jesus during the first Gulf war...not because of the war...but during that time frame....I remember being at work and the reality of war hit me for the very first time...back during Viet Nam....my young mind didn't have that same sense of reality.

My posting showed that there were many things that have brought me to where I am today..the use of "maybe" in anyone of the references was poetic license on my part to get my point across...it was not meant to demean my faith or Jesus Christ..but put in the context of all things that have happened.

Jesus became my Lord and Savior when I came to realise that I was heading to hell without Him....He has taken me from a frightened little girl into the person I am today..a blood bought child of the Living God...he has taken my fears away and has placed me in the position of Worship Leader in my church....my husband and I have taken our guitars to the streets and into the nursing homes to further the gospel..we were cell group leaders for many years...the Lord is first and foremost in my life...

He has had His hand in my entire life..through all the drugs and partying back in the 70's, his hand of protection was upon me...a lot of my friends ended up in jail or are dead..but I am a survivor of my own misdeed..a prodigal daughter, if you will.....He has given me a new life.

I do know that the media is out to crush Christianity..I am well aware of satan's plot to bring about the demise of our faith...I am also aware of the dreadful things to come, as spoken of in the Revelation...but I am also aware of the victory promised....Jesus is a great God..He cares about me and about you....and I also know that there is nothing that surprises Him and that He has everything in control...His will is being done on earth as it is in heaven..the things we see happening in our world today are all going to culminate in the coming of Jesus Christ to take His rightful place as King and Lord of this earth.

I do not worry that the media is playing its part...because I know that with each bit of garbage they spew...it only means the return of Jesus is all that much more closer.

I have been brought to this place in my life for a purpose and a reason..I believe that I am fulfilling that purpose as I do the things He has called me to....and when He shows me new things to do, I step in with full confidence that He will enable me to accomplish it..a far cry from the little girl who hid under her bed when she heard the car pull in the driveway. God's grace has been abundantly poured out on me.

I hope this email clarifies things for you...and that you will pull back on your judgment of me.

Kathleen


276 posted on 08/30/2004 5:51:26 AM PDT by leenie312 (1 John:4-6)
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To: stockpirate

Well as to the drugs, guilty as charged. Why because they're fun...for a while at least, until you wake up in a friends garage with about $1.50 in your pocket and a tenuous grasp on reality.
As to being anti-war, again guilty as charged.
And a lot of us were, we belived we we not trying to win(ie the brass)


277 posted on 08/30/2004 7:55:12 AM PDT by Valin (It Could Be that the Purpose of Your Life is Only to Serve as a Warning to Others.)
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To: John Lenin

So you did order the code red?


278 posted on 08/30/2004 8:24:32 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: leenie312
Wow! You have really opened your heart with that post. It was very moving, and a real testament to your faith. (You done good.)
279 posted on 08/30/2004 12:47:01 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: stockpirate
Being a veteran of that era, I can tell you that your indifference was the norm and apathy was what we vets felt. We were the outcasts, the targets of ridicule and scorn by a country we chose to voluntarily serve. The scape goats for failed policies and easy targets because we wore a uniform. But we who risked conscientiously, did it with honor. We chose to stand and fight when the rest of America chose to hide. We loved our country, even when it chose not to love us. And we tuned out your indifference by burying our experiences deep in our souls. But the one thing we always hungered for was to "come home".

So if you want to say "sorry", it is okay. But if you really want to show geniune sorrow, say "here's a long overdue welcome home". I can't write anymore as this is too emotional for me now.

280 posted on 08/31/2004 10:20:33 AM PDT by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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