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When Mr. Bush begun his presidency, the number of illegal aliens was estimated between 4 and 8 millions. As of today, it's estimated between 12 and 20 millions. So, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. most likely doubled during Mr. Bush's tenure. This fact indicates how impotent his administration has been, and how serious a problem, now requiring extraordinary measures, illegal immigration is. The administration is not going to listen to their core constituencies. It will blindly follow devastating ideas of opening America's borders to hordes of unassimilating "migrants" from Mexico and other Third World countries against clear will of vast majority of American people that it is supposed to serve.
1 posted on 08/25/2004 2:04:07 PM PDT by robowombat
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2 posted on 08/25/2004 2:05:03 PM PDT by escapefromboston
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3 posted on 08/25/2004 2:13:17 PM PDT by TheExperiment_Is_Over
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While a lot of us don't agree with Bush on his immigration policies, I can honestly say we don't agree with some of the things you've said. Since I don't have 3 hours to read through the whole post, I'll simply respond to what you said.

When Mr. Bush begun his presidency, the number of illegal aliens was estimated between 4 and 8 millions. As of today, it's estimated between 12 and 20 millions.
No kidding. Blame lawyers, Civil rights activists, special interest groups, senators in California, and Mr. Fox for this. I won't bother posting proof as it's all over the place.

So, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. most likely doubled during Mr. Bush's tenure. This fact indicates how impotent his administration has been,
The simple fact that he's transformed 2 countries into democracies doesn't phase you in the slightest does it. It's our fault that people are running across our borders illegally right? I agree something drastic should be done, but prioritization is a necessary component to leadership.

4 posted on 08/25/2004 2:17:14 PM PDT by TheZMan (What we need here is a really big boat.)
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Youch! Long read.

Nothing is going to change right now. What I suggest is that after Kerry's burial in November, we start an email, phone, and letter writing campaign to President Bush, and every single influencial person to express our displeasure and concerns. We should also pay close attention to who expects to be the GOP nominee for the run in 2008.


5 posted on 08/25/2004 2:23:41 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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It will blindly follow devastating ideas of opening America's borders to hordes of unassimilating "migrants" from Mexico and other Third World countries against clear will of vast majority of American people that it is supposed to serve.

I ask this, not to be argumentative but to be informed. Why aren't those, in the states that are currently most adversely impacted by illegal immigration, electing people to Congress who can make this a national priority? It may be against the clear will of the American people but it is not a clear priority across the country.

7 posted on 08/25/2004 2:28:00 PM PDT by Dolphy (Support swiftvets.com)
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The administration is not going to listen to their core constituencies. It will blindly follow devastating ideas of opening America's borders to hordes of unassimilating "migrants" from Mexico and other Third World countries against clear will of vast majority of American people that it is supposed to serve.

The elites who run both parties don't care that the majority of US citizens (from both parties)don't want more immigration. Democrats and Republicans have agreed to not discuss important issues like immigration and trade, but to fight it out on fringe issues like gay marriage and stem cell research. When your government no longer listens to you, it is a tyranny!

8 posted on 08/25/2004 2:28:42 PM PDT by AppleButter
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Not just GW Bush, but John Kerry and their respective political parties are pushing to reward these criminals. That's right, criminals! They broke the law. Nothing will ever change what they've done to get here. It is a criminal element with an equally criminal mentality.

Nearly 30% of the federal prison population is comprised of non-citizens. That's remarkable considering they comprise a mere 2-4% of the overall population. Even more remarkable is that most of the non-citizens are in prison for committing violent crimes. Very few are in prison for violating immigration laws.

Illegal immigrants must be sent packing. For every illegal immigrant we ship off there is a law abiding non citizen trying to use the legal process to enter our country. These law abiding potential immigrants should be given priority, not criminals.

I'll not mask my feelings on the importance of this issue. I am voting for Peroutka of the Constitution Party as he would deport all illegal immigrants.

REF: Federal Bureau of Prisons: Inmates by Citizenship: http://www.bop.gov/fact0598.html#Citizenship
11 posted on 08/25/2004 2:47:10 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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Excellent post. Thanks for this article. A keeper.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 3:00:31 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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16 posted on 08/25/2004 3:01:43 PM PDT by gubamyster
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When Mr. Bush begun his presidency, the number of illegal aliens was estimated between 4 and 8 millions. As of today, it's estimated between 12 and 20 millions. So, the number of illegal aliens in the U.S. most likely doubled during Mr. Bush's tenure.

Many have been waiting for him to shut the flood gates, but it appears he is intent on flooding the entire country

18 posted on 08/25/2004 3:07:05 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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Folks, this is how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Enough people could stay home on election day to make this election closer than it should be or lose it altogether. This is just insane!
24 posted on 08/25/2004 3:25:23 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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Robowombat, very good post. A lot of reading, but certainly worth it. Thank you.


32 posted on 08/25/2004 3:50:55 PM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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Please don't carry on the authors disrespect for our President. He was Mr. Bush BEFORE we elected him to the Office of President.

I think everyone on FR knows how strongly I disagree with almost everything the President has done regarding our open borders but it infuriates me to follow an intellectual debate were the President is referred to as Bush or Mr. Bush.

We were the ones who gave him the title of President, why don't I see more people on FR using it?


35 posted on 08/25/2004 4:21:41 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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I'm with you on this. While I can't / won't vote for John Kerry I also can no longer support Bush anymore since he no longer stands for the Rule-of-Law.


39 posted on 08/25/2004 4:32:39 PM PDT by Ron H. (If you can't support the rule of law then don't expect me to support you!)
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He criticizes the current (immigration) laws as the "system [that] is not working".

Thanks for posting this long but interesting article. Mr. Bush has made it clear that HE DOESN'T WANT THE SYSTEM TO WORK, even though America is begging him to enforce immigration laws and protect the borders. Our votes don't count anymore to him, that's why I'm taking my vote to the Constitution Party. We won't win, but maybe we'll send a message.

51 posted on 08/25/2004 9:29:35 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - ILLEGAL ALIEN HEAVEN)
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Mr. Fox brags that 10% of his population is here in the U.S.


52 posted on 08/26/2004 6:25:54 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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In the future someone is going to run for office.....that vows to secure the borders and to enforce the current laws.

They will have overwelming support...AND opposition. It will be a battle royal.....

54 posted on 08/26/2004 6:34:23 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Not all of us are sheep.............................................................................)
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