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Bush calls for halt to Swift Boat vets' ads
MSNBC ^ | 8/23/04 | staff

Posted on 08/23/2004 12:33:38 PM PDT by ppaul

CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush says a veterans’ group should stop television ads criticizing John Kerry’s war record.

The president's criticism of the ads by Swift Boat Veterans for the Truth came as Bush denounced all TV ads by outside groups attacking both Kerry and himself on Monday and called for a halt to all such political efforts.

“I think they’re bad for the system,” he said.


Pablo Martinez Monsivais / AP The president, center, was meeting at his Texas ranch with his defense team when he made his remarks on the ad controversy.

When asked specifically whether the ads by the group "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" should be halted, Bush said: "All of them. That means that ad, every other ad. Absolutely."

"I can't be more plain about it," Bush said. "I hope my opponent joins me in condemning these activities of the 527s (political groups that sponsor to ads). I think they're bad for the system."

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2004electionbias; ads; brownshirtsforkerry; brownshtsforkerry; crawford; dirtytricks; dnctalkingpoints; doublestandard; goebbelswouldbeproud; kerry; lyingliars; mediabias; propaganda; shillsforkerry; smearcampaign; swiftboatveterans
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To: rudypoot
"Rush was dead on with this. As soon as he heard the news conference he predicted what the headlines were going to read and then what the media would ignore."

ABC top of the hour news was bashing President Bush for not doing as Kerry demanded and specifically condemning the SBVfT ads.

41 posted on 08/23/2004 1:28:29 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: ppaul

This story is simply an outrage. I mean, this is the MSM after all, but the President SAID NOTHING OF THE KIND as far as "denouncing" the Swift Boat Vets.

This is yet another new low for journalism. I have to shut up before I get profane.


42 posted on 08/23/2004 1:29:13 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Texas Federalist
"It seems like every move he makes for purely political reasons is poorly calculated. When he sticks up for what he truly believes, he is successful. Bush needs to dump Karl Rove and get some new advisors."

Better Rove than people like the blind bashers on this thread screaming at him to stop doing what he is NOT DOING.

43 posted on 08/23/2004 1:30:29 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: uncbob

"Yep Signing CFR was a BRILLIANT move"

Yes, brilliant, indeed. That and his failed immigration policy, appointing Colin Powell to head State, the prescription drug entitlement, and budget-busting spending.

Having said all that, I am as certain as I am of the sunrise that electing Kerry would be a disaster on many fronts. I have always supported President Bush, even though some of his policy errors have been hard to swallow.

I justify my continued support by hoping a second Bush administration -- free to operate without thought of re-election -- will correct many of the mistakes.

Although I get a charge out of watching Kerry squirm in the face of the Swiftboat ads, I fear all this attention is detracting from Kerry's post-war traitorous behavior and his nineteen years as a liberal, do-nothing senator.

I think the Bush campaign finds the ads a hindrance, and I sincerely believe they will end up hurting the effort by election day. People do not appreciate being reminded of such a divisive time in history; why can't we concentrate on the Kerry of TODAY?


44 posted on 08/23/2004 1:31:14 PM PDT by thelastvirgil
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To: Chieftain

Paul Galante (7 year patron of the Hanoi Hiltion for you blind bashers) to be interviewed on Hannity soon.


45 posted on 08/23/2004 1:32:03 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
ABC top of the hour news was bashing President Bush for not doing as Kerry demanded

As little johnny DEMANDED? LOL!!!
Who the hell is little johnny to tell the President of the United States what to do?
Man, how arrogant is this little twerp?

46 posted on 08/23/2004 1:32:40 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: ppaul
This was win-win for Bush. He knows that even if he asks, they aren't going to pull the ads. ...and I'm fairly certain he isn't going to press the issue.

But...at least now it's on the record that he has spoken out against them. Great move on his part. :-)
47 posted on 08/23/2004 1:32:45 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: ppaul

Relax guys... the damage from the truth about Kerry has been done. Remember this is politics.... well kind of like war. You through your bomb at the enemy and see where it lands, where it losens the teeth. It is all a part of winning the war. I think you will be pleasantly surprised when you see the other side of the rope a dope at the end of the convention. Kerry's knees are wobbling but you dont want to knock him to the canvass till the last possible moment to prevent sympathy backlash.
This is an ugly game, No one likes the rules, but these are the rules to get into the office. You can be a target or a participant .... you choose.


48 posted on 08/23/2004 1:32:48 PM PDT by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: ppaul
I can't wait UNTIL the MSM asks KERRY if HE will JOIN the POTUS in condemning and calling for an end of ALL 527 ads INCLUDING specifically all Moveon.org ads.

Waiting..............

49 posted on 08/23/2004 1:33:46 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: ppaul

misleading headline from Kerry's willing accomplicies in the media.


50 posted on 08/23/2004 1:33:49 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ClancyJ
He is merely saying the very same thing he said all along - he condemns ALL 527's

Which, from the guy who signed CFR into law, is consistent, I grant you. Consistently wrong.

51 posted on 08/23/2004 1:34:41 PM PDT by Huck (I love the USA!)
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To: sarasota
It's not political, it's personal. The ads will not be lifted...and W knows they won't. Win/win.

Yep. He called several days ago for the end of 527 ads so this is nothing new. He knows Kerry won't call off Moveon.org and he knows the Vets aren't going to stop (they've already said they wouldn't) so he looks like the good guy trying to calm things down while the Vets keep pounding Kerry. I agree, win/win.

The only bad thing about this article is the intentionally misleading headline. MSNBC is just blatantly supporting the Kerry side in every way possible. They're going to lose the last dozen or so viewers they have left.

52 posted on 08/23/2004 1:34:54 PM PDT by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: ppaul

So much for freedom of speech.


53 posted on 08/23/2004 1:35:46 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: thelastvirgil
People do not appreciate being reminded of such a divisive time in history; why can't we concentrate on the Kerry of TODAY?

Kerry's claim to the presidency is the past. 35 years ago is today for little Johnny. It's all he has.
You don't hear him wanting to discuss the last 35 years he's been AWOL, do you ?

54 posted on 08/23/2004 1:35:58 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: concerned about politics
"Who the hell is little johnny to tell the President of the United States what to do?"

Why, he's THE ONE, THE ONLY, Vietnam War Hero ®! He can say and do anything he wants! How DARE you question his patriotism! How dare you question HIM?!?!

55 posted on 08/23/2004 1:35:59 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Huck
Sure looks weak.

Nope...sure looks "smart"...Bush did a bit of political softball today...took the high ground, and now left Kerry having to deal with the Swifties head on now...he can't run a crying to W anymore...;-)

He knows the swifties won't stop and deep down is probably glad...

56 posted on 08/23/2004 1:36:14 PM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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To: cake_crumb
I assume your IQ is over the double digit mark, so you should know full well that the president is not proposing that the gubmint ban the ads.

Well you just said to me that Bush "called on all 527 ads to stop and called on Kerry to join him in stopping ALL of them." Make up your mind. I know, he is just asking nicely for all the groups to voluntarily stop. This from the guy who signed the law that CREATED 527s, no?

This is the only way he can counter attack Kerry for attacking HIM on the swift boat vets' ads rather than answer the charges.

What is there to counter? Kerry says it's a Bush ad, Bush says it's not. Great CFR law you signed there, GWB! LOL. Come to think of it, maybe it's just desserts. Too bad we all suffer for it.

57 posted on 08/23/2004 1:37:17 PM PDT by Huck (I love the USA!)
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To: Notwithstanding; MJY1288
Bush is a PR master and has managed, like Reagan, to confound and bypass the lamestream media, despite their influence and their collusion with the Democrites.

It's nice to see some grown-ups here this morning. . .

The swift boat ads controversy is starting to work against the President. We need to move on to other more current and relevant issues, and get him re-elected.

58 posted on 08/23/2004 1:39:09 PM PDT by KiloLima (Proud Infidel-American. Any questions?)
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To: sarasota

Don't the ads have to be stopped sometime next month in order to comply with the McCain-Feingold CFR law? (Naturally, this applies to MoveOn.org as well.)


59 posted on 08/23/2004 1:39:14 PM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: Walkingfeather

#48 = excellent!


60 posted on 08/23/2004 1:40:27 PM PDT by KiloLima (Proud Infidel-American. Any questions?)
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