Unprecedented Ice Age Cave Art Discovered In UK

National Geographic ^ | 8-18-2004 | John Pickrell

[blam]

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[Henchman]

Sounds like state sponsored art fraud to the French

[JimSEA]

This article fits in beautifully with what I am reading now -- Brian Fafan's "The Long Summer: How Climate Changed Civilization". I used to wonder what had happened to these folk as no comparable art followed the paintings. Fagan makes a good guess in their high mobility as huinters / gatherers following the warming and their possible use of wood, etc. as a media which has a short life.

[Missus]

I've always had to giggle over the cave-art furor. No one ever seems to even stop and consider that it might just be teenage graffiti... would explain the fascination with female body parts and dead animals.

Heck, it does inspire me to find a rock and scratch some breasts into it. It will be art in a few thousand years.

[randog]

Heck, it does inspire me to find a rock and scratch some breasts into it. It will be art in a few thousand years.

I see that you're as underwhelmed as I am.

[blam]

"Fagan makes a good guess in their high mobility as huinters / gatherers following the warming and their possible use of wood, etc. as a media which has a short life."

This guy, Mr Targett, didn't wander to far from home.

Descendent Of Stone Age Skeleton Found

[Pharmboy]

Hmmmm...I did not know the Picts could draw.

[JimSEA]

I recall when you posted the Chedder Man decendent story a while back. Targett's ancester could have walked to "Paris" and back.

[freedumb2003]

Early man also gave crayons to their children:

[SunkenCiv]

Eventually this cave art movement was abandoned when political agitators crusaded against representational art. ;')

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[RightWhale]

what had happened to these folk

They moved to Egypt and Mesopotamia, then to South America. No sign is left of who those people actually were, but they are still here.

[eno_]

Other themes include "conga lines" of what are believed to represent dancing women and stylized depictions of female genitalia, Pettittt said. Both forms are typical of continental cave art from the same period.

The dancing women may have some ancient religious or cosmological significance, Pettitt said. "The art is perhaps recording a spiritual dance at some very important religious event."

Isn't it hilarious how everything old is "religious" or "spiritual?" Maybe this cave was a prehistoric strip club.

[SunkenCiv]

	The Future of the Past: Archaeology in the 21st Century by Eberhard Zangger
[W]hen the Spanish nobleman de Sautola discovered the Late Ice Age painted cave at Altamira, 'critical' scientists described him as a forger and a cheat -- and their error was only recognised 22 years later. [p 289]

[SunkenCiv]

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. I think prehistoric art in general (with all those buxom baby machines) is the work of prehistoric teenaged boys. In the case of Catal Huyuk, some of those internally decorated structures were probably whorehouses.

George W. Bush will win reelection by a margin of at least ten per cent.

[SunkenCiv]

At least one painted cave was located by divers in the Mediterranean. The entrance had been submerged for over 10 thousand years, and the upper, painted galleries were above modern sealevel. This not only sealed off the work from human discovery, it also buries the idea that it wasn't done a very long time ago, regardless of one's perspective of history.

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[Doctor Stochastic]

I did not know the Picts could draw.

I didn't know the Pilts could draw.

[SunkenCiv]

Original topic, 2004. This is an update.

Experts search for Ice Age man
in excavation at cave beauty spot
by Lucy Harvey
8 August 2006

The engravings of animals were found at Church Hole cave, Creswell Crags, at Welbeck near Worksop three years ago and are evidence the limestone gorge near Worksop is one of the most northerly areas explored by man in the Ice Age... Dr Paul Pettit from Sheffield University's Department of Archaeology, who is leading the dig, said: "This is a fantastic opportunity to work at such and important site. We know that Church Hole was excavated very rapidly by the Victorians in the 1870s and very little is known about the animals and people who inhabited this cave during the Ice Age. Many of the bones and stone tools would have been thrown away and now lie within the Victorian spoil heap directly outside the cave's entrance. Our plan is to excavate this spoil heap and find the original Ice Age sediments below which contain bones and other artefacts from the period."

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