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Why President Clinton was impeached

Posted on 07/27/2004 2:22:15 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP

Why President Clinton was impeached

There is another liberal Documentary out "The Hunting of the President." Susan McDougall has been promoting the movie. She claims in recent interviews that President Clinton’s impeachment was entirely do to a right wing conspiracy to get the President no matter how or what the cost. I have also had liberal friends and acquaintances ask why President Clinton was impeached.

A free society can only function when most citizens obey the laws and cooperate with their government out a sense of respect for the rules and for their government. A police state exits when citizens follow the rules only out of a fear of punishment. When a politician acts as if he is above the law and demonstrates a lack of respect for the rules he undermines an essential foundation of a free society. To disregard a law that you actively and publicly oppose might be acceptable because the contempt shown would be for one particular law, not the whole system of laws.

For a politician to actively support specific laws except when those laws are applied to him is worse than hypocrisy. Such a politician has shown that he values himself more than he values our Country and that he has reversed the idea of being a public servant.

President Clinton actively supported the sexual harassment laws that Paula Jones used to sue him and even to this day has never spoken out against such laws except as applied to himself. Clinton signed the Independent Council law on the assumption that the law would only be used against Republicans like Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush. Only after the Independent Council Law was used to look into President Clinton’s own corruption did he finally come out in opposition. President Clinton and the Democrats have supported an expansive use of depositions to in essence go on a fishing expedition looking into things only tangentially related to the original lawsuit. Other than claiming that he should never have been asked about Monica, Clinton has never voiced opposition to the wide ranging questions currently allowed in depositions.

President Clinton’s decision to lie to the court and to solicit others to also lie is an example of considering himself to be above the rules he applies to us mere citizens.

No one has offered an explanation for why such deliberate misconduct was acceptable except to say that what Clinton did was no big deal or that since the Constitution didn’t mention perjury he shouldn’t have been impeached.

If such behavior is unacceptable then Clinton’s impeachment was appropriate and his removal from office would have been justified. Citizens are supposedly the masters and their elected representatives are the servants. If such behavior on the part of an elected servant is acceptable then why should any citizen obey a rule that conflicts with their personal desires?


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1 posted on 07/27/2004 2:22:16 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Mia T

Some good text in here for your political art.


2 posted on 07/27/2004 2:24:27 PM PDT by Calpernia ("People never like what they don't understand")
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Once the Big Dig is brought to light and the investigations on a 10 plus billion dollar overrun in Mass. happens I would expect that if Kerry were President, he would be subject to impeachment for this.

Ops4 God BLess America!


Sen. Kerry, Pioneer Linked In "Big Dig" Overpayment 02/06/2004


An insurance company led by Bush Pioneer Maurice "Hank" Greenberg has been connected to Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA) - currently the frontrunner for this year's Democratic presidential nomination - in a series of events that appear to illustrate a trade of favors involving a huge Boston transportation project. The Associated Press reported Feb. 5 that in 2000, Kerry stopped a bill that would have forced American International Group (AIG) to repay $150 million related to overpayments for insurance premiums on the Central Artery/Tunnel Project, a $14.6 billion highway, bridge and tunnel complex better known as the "Big Dig." In 2001 and 2002, AIG paid $540 in travel expenses for a Kerry speech in Vermont, gave $18,000 to Kerry's Senate and presidential campaigns, and donated at least $30,000 to a tax-exempt "exploratory committee" Kerry set up to examine whether he should run for president.

The bill that Kerry blocked came after the Transportation Department found in 1999 that Big Dig managers overpaid AIG $128.9 million for unneeded worker's compensation and liability insurance, then let AIG invest the money in the market and keep about half the profits from the investments. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) introduced a bill in 2000 that would have taken $150 million in federal funding from the Big Dig while banning insurers from investing any excessive premiums paid with federal money. McCain relented when Kerry and Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA) asked McCain to drop the bill; instead, McCain held a hearing on the issue before the Senate Commerce Committee. A spokeswoman said Kerry called for hearings to determine whether the investments were legal, but opposed cutting funding for the project.


3 posted on 07/27/2004 2:25:23 PM PDT by OPS4
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

I know we're not supposed to mention it, but another reason so many of us supported his impeachment was because it was fun.


4 posted on 07/27/2004 2:28:07 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
It's "independent counsel", as in

Main Entry: 1coun·sel
Pronunciation: 'kaun(t)-s&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English conseil, from Old French, from Latin consilium, from consulere to consult
4 a plural counsel (1) : a lawyer engaged in the trial or management of a case in court (2) : a lawyer appointed to advise and represent in legal matters an individual client or a corporate and especially a public body b : CONSULTANT 2

5 posted on 07/27/2004 2:29:09 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
I've always felt that X-42 was impeached for one simple reason: because he was certifiably insane, and therefore had to be remembered in history books with this permanent stigma attached to him.

Don't let him fool you when he says he considers his impeachment a "badge of honor." Nobody today gives a sh!t about Andrew Johnson's popularity ratings, nor can anyone even tell you what the unemployment rate or GDP growth was during his tenure in office.

6 posted on 07/27/2004 2:31:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Put simply, Clinton was impeached because Clinton broke the law.

Sadly, much like OJ, Clinton's escape from justice shows the problems with our legal system.


7 posted on 07/27/2004 2:31:22 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France. -Duke Wellington)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

clinton was impeached because most of the reps in the House went to the evidence room and read convincing testimony that he raped Juanita Broderick.


8 posted on 07/27/2004 2:32:01 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

1994 Crime Bill, Violence Against Women Act. Language submiited by NOW, signed into law by Clinton. Says that a Plantiff like Paula Jones has a right to any information that established a pattern of predatory sexual misconduct on the part of the accused.

Jones (state employee) turned down Clinton's (state Gov) requst for sexual favors and feels she was denied promotion b/c of it. Lewinksy agreed to favors and was "rewarded" with job offers at UN and Revlon. Jones had a right to discover if Lewinsky was coerced.

Clinton/Lewinksy chose to lie about it instead. Perjury, Subornation of Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Tampering with Witnessess.

The real loser here was the Feminist movement. They prostituted their principles in exchange for a veto of the partial-birth abortion ban.

Game Set. Match.


9 posted on 07/27/2004 2:33:56 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

"Treason is the Reason."


10 posted on 07/27/2004 2:34:45 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Snardius

Close but "no cigar".

However, sir, you do deserve an honorable mention.

(1) Clinton was in court for sexually harrassing Paula Jones.

(2) Monica L was asked to testify in order to establish a pattern of illegal behavior by X42 (mistreatment of employees).

(3) X42 then counseled ML to lie in court.

The rest is history.

HE WAS NOT IMPEACHED FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 07/27/2004 2:40:19 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

The Broderick evidence pushed the "fence sitters" over to the impeachment side. Without Broderick coming forward, those on the side of justice would not have had the votes in the House.


12 posted on 07/27/2004 2:46:34 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Snardius

Good point.

I just hate it when people who SHOULD know better (Limbaugh, Hannity, etc etc) fail to remind people that it was the Jones-Broderick issue that impeached Clinton.

The Democrats successfully blamed Clinton for Lewinsky, knowing that if they publicized Monica, the US would forget Paula and Juanita.


13 posted on 07/27/2004 2:55:21 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: mvpel

Thanks, it always helps to have someone else proof read.


14 posted on 07/27/2004 2:58:03 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
According to Larry McMurtry it is because Ken Starr is from Thalia, Texas (my mother use to baby-sit little kenny - true story) and Mr. McMurtry states folks in Thalia don't take kindly to liars and fornicating presidents. This too is true.
15 posted on 07/27/2004 3:00:10 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: fishtank

To stop and think about all the things the clintons were involved in...from Foster's murder to the Travel office, to the purloining of FBI files, to the credibility of Broderick's rape charge, to the pardons it is just amazing that the media still fawn over him like he's a paragon of virtue. Just imagine if he were Republican...no matter how cynical you get, you can't keep up.


16 posted on 07/27/2004 3:01:07 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: Snardius

Yep.

Oh, before I leave for the day, the "close, but no cigar" comment was NOT meant for you personally.

It was just too good of a remark to pass up, know what I mean?


17 posted on 07/27/2004 3:06:56 PM PDT by fishtank
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To: fishtank

No offense taken. But my favorite cigar joke is to tell anyone who is smoking one: "That cigar makes you look like a movie star...Lassie taking a crap."


18 posted on 07/27/2004 3:17:43 PM PDT by Snardius
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To: fishtank
(3) X42 then counseled ML to lie in court.

And Betty Currie.....

19 posted on 07/27/2004 3:24:43 PM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

Clinton was impeached because he used the power of his office to commit crimes for the purpose of denying fellow citizen, Paula Jones, the right to a fair trial of her grievances under the Constitutionof the United States.


20 posted on 07/27/2004 3:27:32 PM PDT by libertylover (The Constitution is a road-map to liberty. Let's start following it again.)
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