[AMERICAN] CITY VOTES ON VOLUME OF ISLAMIC CALL TO PRAYER

CNN.com, "Inside Politics" ^ | 20 July 2004 | Editors

[Robert Drobot]

Your proposal is spot on!!! The outcome is obvious. The bigotry and hatred of Muslims toward all religions should banish them from performing their heathen rituals in any country other than the Middle-East.

Unfortunately, our founding fathers had no idea our national policy would favor the immigration of thousands who have no tolerance for the practice of any other belief, other than their own. They are an abomination to all religions, and anyone paying tribute to them should be scorned for betraying their faith and branded a heretic. Speaking of which.....

Below is a photo of Karol Wojtyla at the end of an audience with Patriarch Raphael I of Iraq where "the Pope bowed to the Muslim holy book the Qu'ran presented to him by the delegation and kissed it as a sign of respect".

Karol Wojtyla Kissing The Qu'ran

[Robert Drobot]

The buzz is this is going to court.

Big deal.

American courts are frankly, un-American, as they are now taking their cues from foreign courts so as to develop an 'international presence' in their court decisions.

The legal system has given itself over to the insanity of governing systems having no constitution and or no affirmation of Creator derived citizen rights in their existing 'constitution' in which all rights are subject to the whim of government.

[Robert Drobot]

"Interstates here in New England now have PERMANENT Border Patrol "checkpoints" established...."

What takes place at a checkpoint? Are 'checkpoints actually at the borders of each of the New England States? Are the personnel at the checkpoints federal officers? Have the courts been asked to close the sites as they represent an infringement on the right of travel.

NOTE: As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel. The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thomson, Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights (My emphasis.). Taken from - Things that are not in the U.S. Constitution

[expatguy]

There is really not that much more to say.

I posted back in 2001 that the day would come very soon when this would happen. I got flamed by the majority of Freepers who called me an alarmist among other things. The fact that I have lived in a Muslim country for over 15 years seemed irrelevant to most.

This is not where it ends. It is in fact just beginning.

Things to look forward to in the fairly near future are the segregation of schools according to sex and "halal" food. You can expect school districts and public venues to no longer server pork or any pork related products. It is not a matter of when it will happen, because of little research will show you that it already has been put in place.

It is seems innocent really at first but what one tends to overlook is the simple fact that Islam does not change to suit others. You must learn to accomodate Islam, and you will.

[Mister Blond]

I don't see a big difference between this and any other religious activity that instrudes on "Peace and Quiet". Some have mentioned church bells...Same kind of thing in my opinion.

I say, just like other religious activities...Leave it up to the community in question. I trust "The People" to make the right decision concerning the community they live in.

[Mister Blond]

I have no problem allowing any type of religious edifice. Could not careless. My one and only negotiating position is that we as citizens of whatever non-Muslim country will only allow a Mosque to be built if and only if churches and temples (Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu) are welcomed and permitted in Mecca, Medina and any other Arabian community. Period. Until all religions of the world are recognized legally and protected by the Muslims in Saudi Arabia there will be no more Mosques built. Period.

Aren't we better than those muslim controlled countries? Shouldn't we lead by example? And since when should we Americans be governed by the actions of the rest of the world?

[neutrino]

This is not where it ends. It is in fact just beginning.

I think you're right. We see that Europe and Australia has mo-slime gangs that attack and gang rape the local women; I anticipate similar actions here. It won't be regarded as a hate crime, due to political correctness.

The question of how long America can stand begins to trouble me.

[Robert Drobot]

"make disciples of all the nations" Matt.28:19 "men from every tribe and togue and people and nation"Rev. 5:9

Conversion is, by the pain of death, banned in every muslim country, and in those Arab countries where it is not the law, active terrorists are attempting to overthrow the existing governing system. The Saudi family, as an example, does business with infidels, but remains in power only because they support muslim teachings - including the ban on conversion.

Remember too, the admonition from Our Lord to The Blessed Apostles about people and places where His Word is rejected:

But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city. -- Luke 10:10-12

Where heathens and pagans refuse to accept The Blessed Trinity, eternal damnation will be their judgment. I pray that false god worshipers will repent before that time and be saved from such eternal pain.

[Robert Drobot]

See Post 29.

[Mister Blond]

See post 46.

[Chgogal]

We have led by example for centuries and yet we were brutally attacked in the most cowardly sneaky way imaginable. Many, many Muslims either were dancing in the street or quietly agreeing with the perpetrators.

Sir, look at the regions' history over the centuries, look at the millions of non-Muslims killed just this decade alone at the hands of Muslims, look at how they treat other religions. No, if there is not a change in their behavior, their attitude, their respect towards the non-Muslim citizens of the world, there will be a face-off. It is written by Allah.

[Chgogal]

It is a negotiating position, sir. Attention must be brought to the situation in Saudi Arabia. Upon entering the country, you MUST sign a statement saying that you are either nonreligious, or you are not Christian, Jewish, etc. If you are caught practicing another religion it is punishable by death. Do you understand? If you practice another religion you may be executed. Period. Many Americans do not know this.

This Muslim behavior cannot be accepted by the world at large. If Saudi Arabia, the protector of Islam, insists on this and other teachings there will be a face-off. I simply believe we should decide when that will be.

[Mister Blond]

I'm not interested in the customs or regulations of other countries. They are not America.

[Mister Blond]

I don't judge all muslims by the actions of a few (The only muslims I've ever met are kind, gentle, America loving, hard workers...VERY hard workers). And I hope that favor is returned...And so far in my life, it has been.

Radical Islam will be defeated through the education of those muslims lucky enough to learn we're not the "Great Satan" all too many of their leaders claim we are, I think.

[who knows what evil?]

I can cite one in my neighborhood, for example. There is a "checkpoint" on Interstate 91 southbound, just a mile south of its junction with Interstate 89 in White River Junction, Vermont. It is managed by the Border Patrol. Although originally intended to be "temporary" post 9/11, locals have taken note of the fact that BP vehicles, floodlamps, and road signage are now "stored" at the adjacent rest area, and can be trotted out on to the main highway at a moments' notice, and is usually done so on a daily basis. People must slow to a crawl in order that the agents standing along the highway can get a GOOD look at you and what your vehicle contains before deciding whether to wave you on or have you detained. My understanding is that there are similar set-ups along other Interstates around New England, but I have not seen them myself...just the one here in Vermont. My question is...how did they sneak by the Border Patrol at the entry points along the Canadian border? I am convinced we are being conditioned to accept "checkpoints".

[Hildy]

whatever happened to this story???