Posted on 07/25/2004 6:36:08 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
See City votes on volume of Islamic call to prayer
HAMTRAMCK, Michigan (AP) -- Residents of this once-predominantly Polish city voted Tuesday on a ballot measure that organizers hoped would be a referendum on whether to allow mosques to issue the Islamic call to prayer over loudspeakers.
Excerpt from the origional. See link above.
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Mayor Tom "Mumbles" Menino practically gave the city owned land away and Saudi money is building it.
The minaretts are supposed to be 120ft high and undoubtedly will call the Islamfascists to prayer with amplifiers.
Diversity is a beautiful thing.
This story reminds me of the quote of Kruschev back in the 60's that the US would be overtaken without a shot being fired. Here a community is held at bay. And there is no end in sight.
Little did it occur to the Founders that government would set immigrant policy so vague as to allow into America contagious human disease, criminal trespassers, and religious zealots whose beliefs directly conflict with Judeao-Christian Western culture standards and beliefs.
Everyone,
I rather THEY not broadcast their call to prayer. The city said it was equivilent to that of the the bell on a Church that why the ordinance was passed in the first place. I didn't think so. Loud broadcast of something in Arabic in 2 minutes several times a day is not the same as a sound of a bell.
My company even let these people take 2 hours off every Friday to go to their prayer thing. If that isn't a special treatment, I don't know what. I never seent a Christian, Jew, Hindu, or Buddhist making these much noise.
Seems to me they could get out there and call in person, but loudspeakers should be banned everywhere.
On C-span1 now...Fyi
I think it's ironic to see the woman in her full robes and headscarf coming out of the voting booth. Would she have this amount of freedom in the country from which she came?
I have not heard church bells for Sunday services in years.
The noise from the bells offended the Saturday nite drunks.
You only need one person to be offended by the noise of the call to prayers. Hopefully it will be take to the supreme court to protect that one person from being forced to listen to it.
and the funny thing is that after the revolution, they deported all the appeasers and sympathizers which amounted to 1/3 of the entire population.
Where are the atheists at the ACLU when you really need them?
The atheists at the ACLU don't support the free practice of a religion, unless it's Islam. You should know that.
That has already been accomplished. Many of the planks of the Communist Manifesto have been implemented in America, without any significant opposition. We were too busy being entertained to take notice of what was going on within our own education cartel; within the media, and within the government. Interstates here in New England now have PERMANENT Border Patrol "checkpoints" established, and the American sheep just file through with nary a complaint. Baaaaa...baaaaaaa.
I cannot imagine having to listen to something in Islamic being broadcast across the city several times a day. I should think that would be right up there with water torture!
The solution is very simple... have all the church bells start ringing about 30 seconds into their friday prayers. :)
Then the ACLU WILL get involved.
This terrorism took place in Maluku, Indonesia which has been about half Christian and half Muslim.
Similar to the present voting demographics of Hamtramck, Michigan.
"Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States." (Masud Khan, of the Al-Islah Islamic Center)
THE PRAYER
Allahu Akbar
Allah is the greatest
Allah is the greatest
Allah is the greatest
Allah is the greatest
Ash-hadu alla ilaha illallah
I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah
I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah
Ash-hadu anna Muhammadar Rasulullah
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah
Hayya alassalah
Come to prayer
Come to prayer
Hayya alal-Falah
Come to success
Come to success
Allahu Akbar
Allah is the greatest
Allah is the greatest
La ilaha illallah
There is none worthy of worship except Allah
See also http://michnews.com/artman/publish/article_3429.shtml
Let them have another vote....Should church bells ring for two minutes every day (the same time the Islamic Call to Prayer is broadcast?)
If that second vote passed, it would be very interesting to see who jumped into the mix. Lines would definitely be drawn then.
Onward Muslim Soldeirs - PING (must read)
Scary.
Demographics "There is a demographic catastrophe happening in Europe that nobody wants to talk about, that we daren’t bring up because we are so cagey about not offending people racially,” he said. “And rightly we should be. But there is a cultural thing as well. … By 2020, 50% of the children in Holland under the age of 18 will be of Muslim descent.” He even drew attention to the birth dearth in the West.
“And don’t forget, coupled with this there is this collapse of numbers,” he said. “Western Europeans are not having any babies. The population of Germany at the end of the century is going to be 56% of what it is now. The population of France, 52% of what it is now. The population of Italy is going to be down 7 million people.”
9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:
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Jermaine Jackson(L), brother of Michael Jackson, Jackson family spokesman Firpo W. Carr(C) and Khawaja Khurshid Reshi hold a rug with a woven picture of Michael Jackson April 19, 2004, in Manama. Jermaine Jackson, in the Gulf to promote understanding between Muslims and his fellow Americans, said Tuesday that Muslims are 'the new Negroes in America.' Jermaine, a convert to Islam and dressed in white Arab garb, has been speaking about Islam and U.S. 'adventures' in Iraq to enthusiastic audiences at Koranic centers and universities in the Gulf Arab state of Bahrain. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters) |
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AMERICA'S ISLAMIZATION
CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) spokesman Ibrahim Hooper indicated in a 1993 interview with the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he wants to see the United States become a Muslim country.
Before Americans start pitying the poor Brits (who truly deserve a good bashing from Islam), they should checked their own neighborhoods! Besides Louis Farrakan's Nation of Islam, the Black Panther and New Black Panther Parties with all their black wanna-be Muslims, there are also REAL Muslims and their communities are springing up everywhere. In 1970 there were an estimated one-hundred thousand Muslims in the United States. Today, a mere 34 years later, the number is approximately 7-10 million! More than a quarter of a million people of Arab descent live in southeastern Michigan, making the area the second-largest Arab community outside the Middle East (after Paris, France). One frightening example of their prolific growth in American is Dearborn, Michigan. Of a total population of
90,000 Dearborn residents, 25,000 are now Arabs! And of all the Dearborn children under the age of 18, a full 58% are Arab children! Other developing centers of Arab/Muslim growth are Florida, Texas, New Jersey and California. God Bless America!
Every year huge numbers of Arabs/Muslims from Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Kuwaitis, Syria, Egypt, Albania and dozens of other ethnic Muslim states who hate America swarm into the United States and add to the already increasing numbers of Arab/Muslim. And every year hundreds of mosques, which preach the extermination of all non-Muslims and the Islamization of America, are being added to the thousands already pointing their minarets skyward. The vast majority (80%) of American mosques are funded with Saudi Arabian money and most subscribe to 18th century Wahhabism that calls for the spread of Islam through violence. Many mosques, "Islamic Learning Centers" and Arab/Muslim Student Unions are distributing large numbers of pamphlets and leaflets attacking Judaism, Christianity and other non-Muslim religions and urging young Americans (esp. angry black Americans) to convert to Islam! Not surprisingly, a large number of African-Americans convert to Islam while in the prison systems! The National Islamic Prison Foundation, which coordinates a campaign to convert inmates to Islam claim an average of 135,000 such conversions per year. And if thousands of self-hating, Leftwing Jews hadn't already converted to Buddhism, they too might be targeted!
The nerve of these evil people to exploit the freedoms given to them here in America and other democracies when their goal is to extinguish ALL freedom!
Many Arabs in America are a disloyal fifth column. They work relentlessly to undermine the U.S. struggle to survive in the face of the growing Muslim terrorist threat. The huge Muslim birthrate, Muslim immigration, the massive expansion of Muslim religious and educational institutions that convert Christians to Islam and the purchase of major U.S. companies by Muslim oil sheiks are all also part of their strategy. America's great friend (???), Saudi Arabia, from whose land came fifteen of the nineteen September 11th Arab hijackers (who flattened the World Trade Center, a portion of the Pentagon and made a very big hole in a Pennsylvania field), has for some time been spear-heading the spread of Islamic doctrine. The Saudis have wholly or partly financed some 210 Islamic Centers (check out this one in Boca Raton, Florida!!!), more than 1,500 mosques and 202 colleges and almost 2,000 schools for educating Muslim children in non-Islamic countries in Europe, Asia, South America, Canada, Australia and America. Check out the mosque near you and look for Islamic propagandists exalting the virtues of Islam to appear soon in YOUR kid's school. Speaking of schools, watch them try to infuse Islam and Islamic rights INTO school systems! Did you know that some Islamic schools in America are teaching hatred toward American Jews and Christians? And what about regular North American colleges and universities? Check out one of the so-called "social activities" of the M.S.A. (Muslim Student Association)! And don't forget to pick up the U.S. Postal Service's new 34 cent Eid-il-Mubarak stamp!
Note: For a better appreciation of the colonization of Arab/Islamic terror squads arrive, colonize and flourish in America and how they interconnect, recruit, raise money and use the American freedoms and legal system as a cover.
fah la la la la la.........
I have heard it, and it's not music.
It is some miserable muslim wailing uncontrollably for a couple of minutes.
A few weeks of that five times a day and I'd have to break out the Zoloft.
I recommend that some of the Christian churches in the vicinity start broadcasting a rebuttal, in Arabic, proclaiming Jesus as the one and only Savior. This should be timed to begin directly after the muslim message.
I wonder how that would fly?
Are you saying that 1/3 of the population of the 13 colonies was deported after the American Revolution?
See Post #26. They can ring bells or deliver a message. I prefer the latter, but on second thought perhaps it would be better delivered in English.
The article is from 7/20. In fact, the referendum passed by a narrow margin with only about 10% of the registered voters showing up to polls.
The land once walked by Samuel Adams is subjected to this insanity? Not in his lifetime..not in mine!
Dont think it could happen here simply because the defenders of American Christian values have gattling guns hidden behind their barns.
Get a van. Mount some good-sized loudspeakers on the top. Park across the street. When their call ends crank up It's a Small World.
Yes
Those muslims make me nervous.
American believers in Jesus Christ: if you one day start hearing this in your town, it can be a reminder to pray for the Muslims to come out of darkness and believe in Issa, the Lord Jesus. Here's a plan of action:
1.Pray for them
2.Love them
3.Share the truth of the salvation of Jesus with them. Even the Quran (Koran?) says Issa is still alive,( the other prophets are dead). Start with that.
ISLAM= I Shall Love All Muslims
"make disciples of all the nations" Matt.28:19
"men from every tribe and togue and people and nation"Rev. 5:9
Better yet, open up the Disney ride across from the mosque. Unfortunately, I think it would fall under cruel and unusual punishment... surely torture.
Question of the day... Is being subjected to It's a Small World worse than panties on the head? Discuss.
I can speak out this one based on experience. I have been on the ride multiple times unfortunately. Each time it took about a week to get that damn song out of my head. The only thing that kept me from going completely nuts on it was being able to tune out the ride somewhat by looking for Hidden Mickeys (the leaves on the vines are made up of Mickeys).
That said, I haven't been subjected to torture of the military/political type but I have been to subjected to other forms of torture. For example, I had all 4 wisdom teeth pulled at the same time. I have also done numerous trips involving 14+ hours in airports and airplanes. To further round out my qualifications, I have also had to take the 'slow' bus (read 12+ hours) from Nong Khai to Bangkok, Thailand during Thai New Years. A fate I wouldn't wish on anyone. While I am sure I have had panties on my head during college, alcohol prevents me from giving a definitive answer to that one.
I can honestly say, with the exception of the bus ride, Small World was the worst of the lot. The only thing that keeps me from saying it was the worst is the visual stimulation is gone after a few minutes. Of course the aftereffects, that damn song, takes longer. It is the closest that this world has come to the personification of pure concentrated evil.
Unfortunately, our founding fathers had no idea our national policy would favor the immigration of thousands who have no tolerance for the practice of any other belief, other than their own. They are an abomination to all religions, and anyone paying tribute to them should be scorned for betraying their faith and branded a heretic. Speaking of which.....
Below is a photo of Karol Wojtyla at the end of an audience with Patriarch Raphael I of Iraq where "the Pope bowed to the Muslim holy book the Qu'ran presented to him by the delegation and kissed it as a sign of respect".
Big deal.
American courts are frankly, un-American, as they are now taking their cues from foreign courts so as to develop an 'international presence' in their court decisions.
The legal system has given itself over to the insanity of governing systems having no constitution and or no affirmation of Creator derived citizen rights in their existing 'constitution' in which all rights are subject to the whim of government.
What takes place at a checkpoint? Are 'checkpoints actually at the borders of each of the New England States? Are the personnel at the checkpoints federal officers? Have the courts been asked to close the sites as they represent an infringement on the right of travel.
NOTE: As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel. The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thomson, Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights (My emphasis.). Taken from - Things that are not in the U.S. Constitution
I posted back in 2001 that the day would come very soon when this would happen. I got flamed by the majority of Freepers who called me an alarmist among other things. The fact that I have lived in a Muslim country for over 15 years seemed irrelevant to most.
This is not where it ends. It is in fact just beginning.
Things to look forward to in the fairly near future are the segregation of schools according to sex and "halal" food. You can expect school districts and public venues to no longer server pork or any pork related products. It is not a matter of when it will happen, because of little research will show you that it already has been put in place.
It is seems innocent really at first but what one tends to overlook is the simple fact that Islam does not change to suit others. You must learn to accomodate Islam, and you will.
I don't see a big difference between this and any other religious activity that instrudes on "Peace and Quiet". Some have mentioned church bells...Same kind of thing in my opinion.
I say, just like other religious activities...Leave it up to the community in question. I trust "The People" to make the right decision concerning the community they live in.
Aren't we better than those muslim controlled countries? Shouldn't we lead by example? And since when should we Americans be governed by the actions of the rest of the world?
I think you're right. We see that Europe and Australia has mo-slime gangs that attack and gang rape the local women; I anticipate similar actions here. It won't be regarded as a hate crime, due to political correctness.
The question of how long America can stand begins to trouble me.
Conversion is, by the pain of death, banned in every muslim country, and in those Arab countries where it is not the law, active terrorists are attempting to overthrow the existing governing system. The Saudi family, as an example, does business with infidels, but remains in power only because they support muslim teachings - including the ban on conversion.
Remember too, the admonition from Our Lord to The Blessed Apostles about people and places where His Word is rejected:
But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say, Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city. -- Luke 10:10-12
Where heathens and pagans refuse to accept The Blessed Trinity, eternal damnation will be their judgment. I pray that false god worshipers will repent before that time and be saved from such eternal pain.
See Post 29.
See post 46.
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