Posted on 07/17/2004 4:05:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
There is a large fire in the Santa Clarita Area of Los Angeles County....if you are in SoCal, that is the very large smoke clouds to the north.
It has been going for two months. Very dry and lots of fuel.
When I worked for them it was Terminal Refrigerating (division of long gone Beatrice Foods); they'd bought it from a guy named Louis Rasky with the proviso that they gave a job to his brother Joe...he was the "sales guy", very nervous, who generally made a fool out of himself running around to all the local meat and veggie packers trying to sell them space.
I left in 1978 for another 25 years in the food biz, working with a seafood importer that continued to store the lobster tails at Terminal, and then Americold.
9:00 p.m. - 12:00 a.m.: Temps expected down to 70 degF 4 mph winds light and variable west at 3mph
12:00 a.m. - 6:00 a.m.: Temps 65 degF falling to 60 degF clouds 500 ft w/3 mile visibility winds light and variable less than 3 mph
Evacuees being taken to Escondido High School.
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Further report says that the brush fire is small about 10 X 10.
all of Hansen Dam is on fire...the entire perimeter around the area...
where is channel 9?
6:19PM - PER CH2 TRFF UNIT ADVS HAD A VISUAL OF THE SUSP AND HE IS SB SIERRA TOWARDS THE COMMAND POST
6:19PM - PER B4 THE CAPTAIN OF LACOFD ADVS THERE IS A MWA IMPERSONATING TO BE A FIREMAN, MWA BLND HAIR APPROX EARLY 20 S DRIVING A BLK FORD BRONCO W / MAGNETICSIGNS ON IT READING FIRE DEPT
6:18PM - SUSP VEH IS BLK FORD BRONCO NO PLTS W/MAGNETIC FIRE SINGS ON SIDE - INDIVIDUAL ID D HIMSELF AS BEING ASSOCIATED W/VENTURA CO STRIKE TEAM
6:18PM - PER B4 - INFO PER LA CO FD CAPT WILLINGS, THERE IS A M/W/A EARLY 20 S BLONDE HAIR YEL FIRE CLOTHING IMPERSONATING A FIREFIGHTER
Hansen Dam? Oh my...
Okay I'm back... looking for a map to see where Hansen Dam is.
FF impersonators now! That's a disturbing turn of events.
Are you talking about for the HazMat situation in San Diego? Or I know the folks they are evacuating from there are being sent to Esc. High School?
Yep, pretty strange. Is Ch 9 covering anything yet?
They have an 8 o'clock news show which I joined at 8:10. They've said nothing at all about the Crown fire, other than power lines are still in possible harm's way and may lead to a large load tomorrow.
Is this the Haz Mat situation you are referring to? Very alarming situation.
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Hansen Dam is in Pacoima....between I5 and I210
Hansen Dam is in Pacoima....between I5 and I210
Hansen Dam is at the confluence of Big Tujunga Canyon and Little Tujunga Canyon at Lakeview Terrace. I think Pacoima is further EAST.
What does inorganic chromium for, do you know?
Ironic both situations are evac-ing to a HS with the same name. I didn't realize there was another one with the same name up near that fire. Sorry for the confusion!
And yeah, that hazmat situation was what I was referring to...very scary...it's going to be a very long night down here...and possibly very long commute again tomorrow...
They broke in during prime time programming with our local news saying more about it...
At that point (about 30 mins ago) hazmat still hadn't figured out how to handle it.
Some folks here were trying to find out.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1175957/posts?page=31
Here's more:
History
(Gr. chroma: color) Discovered in 1797 by Vauquelin, who prepared the metal in the following year, chromium is a steel-gray, lustrous, hard metal that takes a high polish.
Sources
The principal ore is chromite, which is found in Zimbabwe, Russia, New Zealand, Turkey, Iran, Albania, Finland, Democratic Republic of Madagascar, and the Phillippines. The metal is usually produced by reducing the oxide with aluminum.
Uses
Chromium is used to harden steel, manufacture stainless steel, and form many useful alloys. It is mostly used in plating to produce a hard, beautiful surface and to prevent corrosion. Chromium gives glass an emerald green color and is widely used as a catalyst.
The refractory industry uses chromite for forming bricks and shapes, as it has a high melting point, moderate thermal expansion, and stability of crystalline structure.
Compounds
All compounds of chromium are colored. The most important chromates are those of sodium and potassium, the dichromates, and the potassium and ammonium chrome alums. The dichromates are used as oxidizing agents in quantitative analysis, also in tanning leather.
Other compounds are of industrial value; lead chromate is chrome yellow, a valued pigment. Chromium compounds are used in the textile industry as mordants, and by the aircraft and other industries for anodizing aluminum.
Handling
Chromium compounds are toxic and should be handled with proper safeguards.
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Chromium is a naturally occurring element found in rocks, animals, plants, soil, and in volcanic dust and gases. Chromium is present in the environment in several different forms. The most common forms are chromium(0), chromium(III), and chromium(VI). No taste or odor is associated with chromium compounds. Chromium(III) occurs naturally in the environment and is an essential nutrient. Chromium(VI) and chromium(0) are generally produced by industrial processes. The metal chromium, which is the chromium(0) form, is used for making steel. Chromium(VI) and chromium(III) are used for chrome plating, dyes and pigments, leather tanning, and wood preserving. |
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