Posted on 07/02/2004 2:21:36 PM PDT by pookie18
It's clear his film "Fahrenheit 9/11" will make Michael Moore a ton of money. Moore also hopes it will influence the presidential election. Liberal pundits Ellen Goodman and Richard Cohen fear it may.
"Halfway through 'Fahrenheit 9/11,' I realized this wasn't an audience, it was a fan club," Goodman said in her Boston Globe column.
Goodman came to the theater expecting to be one of the fans. "If 'Fahrenheit 9/11' preaches to the choir, you could find me in the alto section," she said.
But the movie made her uneasy. "Not even this alto believes the Iraq war was brought to us courtesy of the Bush-Saudi oil money connection. Not even the rosiest pair of my retro-spectacles sees prewar Iraq as a happy valley where little children flew kites."
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Very interesting. Especially coming from the Globe. This paper is so left I refuse to buy it and stick with the Boston Herald.
They should, but they won't. Too bad for them.
I don't think there's a lib backlash. They may not like the movie, but they won't vote for Bush. The more significant question is whether it will persuade many 18 and 19 year olds to go out and register to vote for Kerry. I think these are the people whose behavior is most likely actually to be changed by the movie.
Liberals get in trouble when they overreach and/or ordinary folks see them as too idealistic, e.g. Mondale, Carter, Dukakis, HillaryCare. I think we're seeing overreach with Moore's film and Kerry's candidacy.
Even some liberals can't swallowing Moore's outrageous lies. Many liberals also know there are many facts about Kerry's story that ordinary folks will not like. To win, the liberals need another Bill Clinton, someone who is slick enough to make the lies believable. Kerry is no Clinton.
Between Moore and Stern, I believe they can sway a lot of these voters.
Than again, I was more of a democrat in my early twenties. It is not until you are an adult and have to pay taxes that you realize the liberal cause is a lost cause. Well in most cases anyways.
Let us hope.
He's 19. He didn't vote for anyone in 2000. He says he won't vote for Bush, but he isn't going to vote for Kerry either. He just won't vote at all. Won't make any difference. I'll bet he isn't even registered.
In '77 (junior in high school) I went to a Jimmy Carter speech with my best friend, just so we could sit during the standing ovations.
Bush supporters and conservatives either won't see it or certainly will hurl popcorn and JuJubes at the screen in disgust.
Hardcore lefties will see it 47 times and make it a cult film like Rocky Horror Picture Show. They'll probably dress up like their favorite evil character or come as dead Iraqi 'minutemen'.
The centrist, non-activist mature population will probably see it for what it is, a hard core partisan political attack ad, and file it accordingly.
Some youngster who is balancing raging hormones, youthful enthusiasm and idealism with a healthy dose of rebelliousness may see it as a purpose for his/her first vote. Kind of like 'save the whales', except it was made by the whale.
The biggest problem with the virulent Anti-Bush campaign that so many 'Rat groups are conducting, is that the wacko-Left is getting in the best shots. They're not accurate, they have no positive message, but a lot of normally responsible Democrats are letting them lead the way, from Howard Dean to Michael Moore. Can't they see that this is suicide.
When Wesley Clark let Moore get up on stage and call Bush a deserter--he should have repudiated it immediately. Not doing so made Clark look weak, petty, and stupid. Now Moore is doing this on the national stage--now some of Kerry's other supporters are speaking of our President as a deserter even today. The inmates have taken over the asylum. If, after the Democratic Convention in Boston, the masses still want to put Kerry in office, then I will be truly surprised and disappointed. I don't think the people are that foolish, but only time will tell.
Andf that jerk clarke has publicly straightened tubby out. clarke re-stated the truth that is was HE who put the Bin Laden family on a plane after 9/11 not anyone else.
There's too much handwringing out there.
Look, instead of being scared of this movie, start exaggerating it. Micheal Moore is so paranoid he thinks President Bush (insert absurdity here) so that he can rule the world. Michael Moore is so whacko that he thinks Bush turned the Towers into giant flytraps.
Take the whole argument and turn the absurdity into insanity.
Ridicule goes a long way and can be turned on its face.
Thanks to (over-)withholding, too many "adults" -- even those who actually pay taxes -- don't give their taxes any thought. To them, the income tax means they get an annual gift from the IRS.
I think the backlash theory is that the whack jobs on the Left get so outlandish (and proven wrong) that independents and leaners start to link Kerry to Moore and the "conspiracy nuts" AND simultaneously making the Bush base ticked off enough to go vote. That would outweigh the number of people motivated to go vote against Bush....plus anger in July drummed up by a fake movie can fade by November. All those people convinced The Blair Witch Project was "real"--and I heard some of them--felt dumb 3 months later.
Guess you didn't hear Rush today -- the vast majority of 18-year old voters are Conservative which equates in today's terms to voting Republican.
He pointed out that protestors are mostly in the their 50's and 60's.
Believe he is absolutely correct and why liberals are so shrill today -- they are not keeping all the kids the liberal teacher's unions wanted them to indoctrinate because a lot of teachers belong but do not support the teacher's union and continue to teach values in their classrooms. That is something liberals seem to know little about.
Take a sampling of young people who register to vote across America and for the most part they are not liberal, don't like PETA, laugh at the environmentalist, and don't want anything to do with peace protestors.
Finally, a sane approach to this garbage.
This is exactly the right strategy.
Michael Moore says that Bush planned 9/11 with his Saudi friends! It's true because he kept reading "My Pet Goat" for seven minutes instead of flying rapidly around the world to turn back time, like Superman!
A good friend of mine was asked to see the movie on a Sunday afternoon so that he could debate someone from MoveOn.org the next day on a local Fox station in his city.
He went to the theater and right before the movie started, the manager asked everyone to move to the center since some large groups had bought tickets and would be arriving soon. No one ever showed up and the theater was half empty. Just because they sell tickets doesn't mean the theater is full.
When he talked to the MoveOn.org guy, the guy admitted they were buying up blocks of tickets. This has been hyped by the liberal media over and over again but even Newsweek has now distanced themselves from Moore and the movie.
Don't think the impact is very great and will in fact backfire to anyone that knows even a little about 9-11 and the War in Iraq not to mention the 2000 election.
BTW, my friend said that most of the people there were dressed and looked like the 60's crowd. Same old leftist are still out there and scuzzy looking as ever.
A wise bet. At 19 he's probably working his first job. He'll have to (a) get up early to vote, or (b) drop by the polling place to vote after work. Like most other people under 25, he'll do neither.
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