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Saudis To Allow Foreigners To Pack'em
CBSNews.com ^ | June 25, 2005 | AP

Posted on 06/26/2004 11:11:25 AM PDT by JRPerry

(AP) Foreigners fearing strikes by terrorists in Saudi Arabia will be allowed to carry guns, the police minister announced, following a rash of militant bombings, attacks and kidnappings targeting Western workers in the Gulf kingdom.

"In principle, a citizen has the right to carry a licensed weapon, and so does the resident, if he senses danger he can carry a personal weapon as he does in his country," Prince Nayef said in the first such announcement during a press conference late Wednesday ...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bang; concealedcarry; handguns; pistols; rifles; saudiarabia; secondamendment; weapons
How ironic that while the left is trying to take away our Second Amendment rights, the Saudis are giving them to us ...
1 posted on 06/26/2004 11:11:25 AM PDT by JRPerry
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To: JRPerry
Come on, you don't think these guys did this on there own?

This is the work of the US twisting their arm.

I would bet money it is our under the radar Attn. General John Ascroft
2 posted on 06/26/2004 11:43:09 AM PDT by dila813
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To: JRPerry
One more thing, do not doubt that if Kerry was Prez, this would have a snowballs chance in hell of happening.
3 posted on 06/26/2004 11:44:01 AM PDT by dila813
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To: JRPerry



Saudi Arabia – beheading capital of
the world

Posted: June 25, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Mike Evans
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

The execution-style murder of Paul Johnson has been
condemned by the Organization of the Islamic
Conference. The OIC chief, Abd al-Wahid Bilqaziz,
labeled Mr. Johnson's death as a "barbaric act," and
went on to reassure the world in general and the
American public in particular that "Islam recommends
the protection of foreigners … and prohibits the
killing of innocent people." How magnanimous of Mr.
Bilqaziz!

Apparently in an attempt to assuage world outrage,
Saudi security launched a search for the body of the
beheaded American. Why has that outrage not
extended to the hundreds, perhaps thousands, who
have been beheaded and tossed into unmarked
graves over the past 30 years?

According to Amnesty International, more than half
of those beheaded between 1990 and 1999 were
foreign nationals, and some were Christian
missionaries. Why has the Saudi government not
returned those bodies to their loved ones for proper
burial?

In Saudi Arabia, heads roll for sodomy, armed
robbery, murder, and for being a Christian. Some
Christians were beheaded after having been falsely
accused of drugs or other crimes reportedly as
benign as leading a Bible study or offering prayers.
Saudis that convert to Christianity, or "desert Islam,"
are subject to the death penalty, as well.

Those condemned to death are taken to a public
square blindfolded after midday prayers, hands tied
behind their backs and forced to kneel facing Mecca.
The police clear the square of all traffic and lay a blue
plastic sheet 16-feet square on the ground. The
executioner swings the sword two or three times
before jabbing the poor soul in the back to force him
to raise his head. More than 100 people have been
beheaded in Saudi since 9-11, and the vast majority
were not members of al-Qaida!

We are told that the militants and extremists who
committed the horrendous murder of Paul Johnson
have been killed. Why are murderers, who have no
regard for the sanctity of human life, called
"militants"? Why not label them exactly as what they
are: terrorists? And, if these so-called militants and
extremists are going to be hunted down and killed or
arrested, what awaits the entire House of Saud?

I, too, am outraged, not only by the beheading of
Paul Johnson, but by the Saudi PR-machine that has
hypocritically expressed its disgust over this
barbarism. It is, indeed, the theater of the absurd and
a festival of hypocrisy.

In 1991 during the Persian Gulf War, I preached the
gospel in the center of Dhahran. U.S. military police
grabbed me and screamed, "Are you nuts? They will
cut your head off, you fool!" Days later, I shared
Christ with Gen. Khalid. He looked at me and asked,
"Are you trying to convert me? We cut off heads for
that."

Any thinking person knows that the House of Saud is
the principal financier of the terrorists on whom
President Bush has declared war. They export more
than oil. About 25 percent of all those in the prison
camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, are Saudi nationals.
No country in the world has spent more to export
bigotry and hatred than Saudi Arabia.

Islam is portrayed as a religion of tolerance. How
ignorant can we be? Women cannot drive cars in
Saudi Arabia, girls are still circumcised, political parties
and trade unions are outlawed, the church and state
are one in Saudi Arabia. Do not hold your breath
while searching for a Christian church or Jewish
synagogue in that country; you will suffocate.
Television is censored to the degree that if Mickey
Mouse gives Minnie Mouse a peck on the cheek, poor
Mickey will be banished from the kingdom!

Several years ago, I interviewed a U.S. Aramco
employee. He told me he was tortured for having a
video of "The Love Boat" in his suitcase. He was
accused of possessing pornography. While in jail, he
feared he might be beheaded.

The Holy Grail of understanding is that there is
nothing tolerant about Saudi Arabia. Shariah (Islamic
law) shows no tolerance. No, it is no coincidence that
15 of the 19 terrorists who attacked America on 9-11
were Saudi Arabian. All were Wahhabists, as is the
Taliban, and the majority of the population of Saudi.
If democracy were to come to tolerant Saudi Arabia,
Osama bin Laden would be elected in a landslide.

We have been assured that Saddam Hussein was not
involved in 9-11; on the other hand, we know with
certainty that Saudi nationals were. For the House of
Saud to try to distance itself from Islamic
fundamentalism would be tantamount to Osama
trying to distance himself from terrorism.

The same can be said of al-Qaida. The general Muslim
population thinks the evil empire of communism was
not defeated by Ronald Reagan and the crusaders,
but rather, it was Osama bin Laden and Islam that
caused the Soviet house of cards to crumble in
Afghanistan. They also believe there is just one "evil
empire" in the world, and that Iraq will be to America
what Afghanistan was to the Soviets.

Michael D. Evans is the author of "Beyond Iraq: The Next
Move," an Amazon No. 2 and a New York Times
best-seller, and founder of America’s largest Christian
coalition praying for the peace of Jerusalem, Jerusalem
Prayer Team.org. Evans' "The American Prophecies" will
be released by Time Warner in early August.


4 posted on 06/26/2004 11:45:37 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: dila813

Perhaps. Perhaps. Perhaps this was of our doing. I can see that possibility. So what we are saying here is that an armed man able to protect himself is less likely to be beheaded? Time will tell. If so, it will certainly allow for another bullet in the magazine of the NRA. If fewer foreigners are kidnapped, or dare we believe if a packing foreigner actually shoots and kills a terrorist in the act of attempting to kidnap them ... that would be a major feather in the cap of those of us defending our Second Amendment rights here in the homeland.


5 posted on 06/26/2004 11:50:27 AM PDT by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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To: JRPerry

I think it will happen.


6 posted on 06/26/2004 11:52:21 AM PDT by dila813
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To: JRPerry

> How ironic that while the left is trying to take
> away our Second Amendment rights, the Saudis are
> giving them to us ...

Not hardly, pilgrim. The Saudis are merely
terrified that the 35,000 people who actually
keep the country running are going to leave.

As I said on an earlier clone of this story...
______________________________________________

They are so panicked about a mass western
pull-out, they can't even get a handle on
the contradictions.

> "In principle a Saudi has the right to
> carry a weapon, ...

Which means that "in practice", they don't.

> Likewise a foreign resident, ...
> "I mean a personal weapon which a person
> can have in his own country," ...

Which isn't even the case for all Americans,
and is NOT the case for virtually all other
westerners.

> ... al Qaeda militants ... may have been
> disguised in police gear.

So the people you need to shoot are dressed
as cops. Well, at least there's a high
likelihood that they will be AlQ sympathizers.

> "... it is dangerous to ignore Saudi police
> instructions to stop at police checkpoints
> or not to pull over when signalled to do so,"

So exactly what is the scenario in which this
new right-to-carry provides any benefit? Not
that I oppose it. On the contrary, I'd want to
be carrying while I pack and head for the airport.

> It also reiterated a call on some 35,000
> Americans in the kingdom to be alert to
> anything unusual and report it.

35K? No wonder they're worried.

Being invited to carry a gun is pretty unusual.
Report it while you're packing to leave.

> Saudi authorities say militants often copy military
> costumes and paint cars in police colours.

That's an astonishing admission, even as they
continue to claim that none of the "real"
security forces are compromised.

> Saudi-born Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network
> has vowed to continue its campaign to drive
> foreigners from the birthplace of Islam and
> topple its royal rulers.

In the future, they'll make a movie about this,
called "The Decade of Living Dangerously".
S.A. is about to descend into civil war and chaos.


7 posted on 06/26/2004 12:00:54 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: JRPerry

This should be the case in Iraq. Citizens need a means of self defense.


8 posted on 06/26/2004 6:43:11 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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