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Florida to Tax Home Networks
Wired News ^ | 02:00 AM Jun. 24, 2004 PT | Michelle Delio

Posted on 06/24/2004 6:17:54 AM PDT by avg_freeper

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Florida state officials are considering taxing home networks that have more than one computer, under a modified 1985 state law that was intended to tax the few businesses that used internal communication networks instead of the local telephone company.

Officials from Florida's Department of Revenue held a meeting on Tuesday to see whether the law would apply to wired households, and exactly who would be taxed. About 200 people attended, including community and business representatives.


(Excerpt) Read more at wired.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: computer; network; tax
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I haven't had a chance to read through the whole article yet. Thought I'd post it here first for discussion.
1 posted on 06/24/2004 6:17:55 AM PDT by avg_freeper
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To: avg_freeper

The lawmakers want their hands in our pockets at all times! ~gag...........


2 posted on 06/24/2004 6:20:43 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: avg_freeper
The tax would go, in part, toward school construction and other projects.

It's a tax for the children...

3 posted on 06/24/2004 6:20:55 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: avg_freeper

How would this be inforced? How would the state even know you had more than one computer?


4 posted on 06/24/2004 6:22:31 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

THIS is ridiculous!


5 posted on 06/24/2004 6:24:08 AM PDT by Lady Composer
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To: stuartcr

We need another tea party. Things are so out of control, everywhere, the gov't. just can't get enough of our money.


6 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:03 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: stuartcr

big brother :)

They know.... oh yes... they know...


7 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:11 AM PDT by fhlh ("Work Harder.... Millions of people on welfare are counting on you!!!")
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To: stuartcr
How would this be inforced? How would the state even know you had more than one computer?

Register assault routers!

8 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:15 AM PDT by neutrino (Against stupidity the very Gods themselves contend in vain.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Look for other states to follow suit, especially if it's going to bring in $1 billion per year.

Floridians better stop this in its tracks.


9 posted on 06/24/2004 6:25:15 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: chris1

Well, when you don't have a state income tax, I guess you have to generate revenue anyway possible. So much for Jeb's thoughts on smaller govt.


10 posted on 06/24/2004 6:26:39 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: stuartcr
How would this be inforced? How would the state even know you had more than one computer?

In the case of a wireless network (which are currently the most popular), it would be relatively easy for the state to identify which homes have one and which ones don't. The method of detection is similar to the technique used in England to collect on the "TV tax".

11 posted on 06/24/2004 6:27:03 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: avg_freeper

Yep, I going to report and pay taxes on my router and home network, just like I always send in a check for sales tax when I order something off the internet and of course report and pay income tax on that $200 I make at my annual yard sale... (sarcasm off)


12 posted on 06/24/2004 6:27:11 AM PDT by apillar
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To: avg_freeper
Florida Gov. Jeb Bush would have to approve any rule the tax department suggests. Bush has said he isn't in favor of the tax,

Won't happen.

13 posted on 06/24/2004 6:27:27 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: avg_freeper
First, many people who have multiple computers networked in their homes do not necessecarily operate businesses. In fact, many new homes down here are going up pre-wired so that the whole family could get on line.

Second, the only other way (besides the one mentioned in the article) that anyone outside the home would know if you have a network is if you request that your provider (broadband or DSL) does the installation for you. Many times they might charge extra for multiple computers. I installed my own network. My provider doesn't know (nor should they) that I have multiple computers.

So, how will the state know - short of physically coming into your home - how many computers you have on a network if you don't tell anyone?

14 posted on 06/24/2004 6:29:18 AM PDT by peteram
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To: jriemer

It seems that with a proper firewall, all they would know is that you have a RF device with an IP address, not necessarily that you have a network, or how big. I would think that the cost of implementing the surveillance units necessary to detect such small outputs, would be pretty high. Lot's of people, like in Britain, would simply see the vehicle coming down the street, and turn it off. I guess they would just have to tax the retail outlets that sell the units, but that wouldn't go over very well either...probably result in a lot of black market routers.


15 posted on 06/24/2004 6:32:00 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: avg_freeper

This reminds me of a line from a letter written by a man to his congressman during the war of northern aggression, "Excuse me sir, is the majority always drunk?!"


16 posted on 06/24/2004 6:33:02 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Power corrupts..... Absolute power can be fun.)
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To: neutrino

When you outlaw routers only outlaws will have routers. The rest of us will just have switches.


17 posted on 06/24/2004 6:36:54 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: peteram
I've got three PC's and an old MAC on my home network. They can probably make a guess at how many computers you have the same way they would if they were looking for grow lights those who grow their own dope use. Some computers use almost as much juice as your average microwave.

Or, they can get simple "sneak and peek" search of your house while you are at work. Or they can hack your router. Or a myriad of ways that they can legally get away with now thanks to the Patriot Act and the DMCA.

If this becomes precident, consider the Republic toast. It may already be, but we could at least drop the pretences.

18 posted on 06/24/2004 6:41:16 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: peteram

. I installed my own network. My provider doesn't know (nor should they) that I have multiple
computers.
So, how will the state know - short of physically coming into your home - how many computers
you have on a network if you don't tell anyone?

My thoughts exactly !!


19 posted on 06/24/2004 6:41:51 AM PDT by Independentamerican (Independent Sophomore at the University of MD)
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To: apillar

And I am definitely going to report that I purchased several thousand dollars worth of merchandise on the internet from out of state companies, just so I can pay a state sales tax! (/sarcasm)


20 posted on 06/24/2004 6:45:40 AM PDT by TommyDale
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