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Sweeping stun guns to target crowds
New Scientist ^ | 6/16/04 | David Hambling

Posted on 06/16/2004 5:05:20 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Weapons that can incapacitate crowds of people by sweeping a lightning-like beam of electricity across them are being readied for sale to military and police forces in the US and Europe.

At present, commercial stun guns target one person at a time, and work only at close quarters. The new breed of non-lethal weapons can be used on many people at once and operate over far greater distances.

But human rights groups are appalled by the fact that no independent safety tests have been carried out, and by their potential for indiscriminate use.

Taser success rates by distance

The weapons are designed to address the perceived shortcomings of the Taser, the electric-shock gun already used by 4000 police departments in the US and undergoing trials with some police forces in the UK.

It hits the victim with two darts that trail current-carrying wires, which limit its range to a maximum of seven metres (see graphic). As a single shot, short-range weapon, the Taser is of little use in crowd control. And Tasers have no effect on vehicles.

Ionised gas

These limitations are beginning to be overcome. Engineers working for the US Department of Defense's research division, DARPA, and defence companies in Europe have been working out how to create an electrically conductive path between a gun and a target without using wires.

A weapon under development by Rheinmetall, based in Dorf, Germany, creates a conducting channel by using a small explosive charge to squirt a stream of tiny conductive fibres through the air at the victim (New Scientist print edition, 24 May 2003).

Meanwhile, Xtreme Alternative Defense Systems (XADS), based in Anderson, Indiana, will be one of the first companies to market another type of wireless weapon. Instead of using fibres, the $9000 Close Quarters Shock Rifle projects an ionised gas, or plasma, towards the target, producing a conducting channel. It will also interfere with electronic ignition systems and stop vehicles.

"We will be able to fire a stream of electricity like water out of a hose at one or many targets in a single sweep," claims XADS president Peter Bitar.

Solid-state lasers

The gun has been designed for the US Marine Corps to use for crowd control and security purposes and is due out in 2005. It is based on early, unwieldy technology and has a range of only three metres, but an operator can debilitate multiple targets by sweeping it across them for "as long as there is an input power source," says Bitar.

XADS is also planning a more advanced weapon which it hopes will have a range of 100 metres or more. Instead of firing ionised gas, it will probably use a powerful laser to ionise the air itself. The idea has been around for decades, says LaVerne Schlie, a laser expert at the US Air Force Research Lab in Kirtland, New Mexico. It has only become practical with advances in high-power solid-state lasers.

"Before, it took a laser about the size of two trucks," says Schlie. "Now we can do it with something that fits on a tabletop."

The laser pulse must be very intense, but can be brief. So the makers of the weapons plan to use a UV laser to fire a 5-joule pulse lasting just 0.4 picoseconds - equating to a momentary power of more than 10 million megawatts.

This intense pulse - which is said not to harm the eyes - ionises the air, producing long, thread-like filaments of glowing plasma that can be sustained by repeating the pulse every few milliseconds. This plasma channel is then used to deliver a shock to the victims similar to a Taser's 50,000-volt, 26-watt shock.

Instrument of torture

HSV Technologies of San Diego, California is also working on stun and vehicle-stopping shock weapons with ranges of over 100 metres. And another company, Ionatron of Tuscon, Arizona, is due to supply a prototype wireless vehicle-mounted weapon to the US Department of Defense by the end of 2004.

But the advent of wireless stun weapons has horrified human rights groups. Robin Coupland of the Red Cross says they risk becoming a new instrument of torture. And Brian Wood of Amnesty International says the long-range stun guns could "inflict pain and other suffering on innocent bystanders".

And there are safety concerns. Of the 30,000 times US police officers have fired Tasers, in 40 instances people stunned by them later died. The deaths have been attributed to factors such as overdoses of drugs and alcohol, or fighting with officers, rather than the electric shock.

In a statement, Taser International chief Rick Smith said: "In every single case the medical examiner has attributed the direct cause of death to causes other than the Taser." Amnesty is not convinced, however, and wants an independent study of the effects of all existing and emerging electric-shock weapons.


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KEYWORDS: bang; crowds; guns; nonlethal; stun
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1 posted on 06/16/2004 5:05:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Psst.....Don't tell the Admin. Moderator about this. It sounds like the ultimate "ZOT".


2 posted on 06/16/2004 5:06:37 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well.....there you go again.)
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To: My2Cents

Beat me to it!


3 posted on 06/16/2004 5:11:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: My2Cents
And there are safety concerns. Of the 30,000 times US police officers have fired Tasers, in 40 instances people stunned by them later died. The deaths have been attributed to factors such as overdoses of drugs and alcohol, or fighting with officers, rather than the electric shock.

In a statement, Taser International chief Rick Smith said: "In every single case the medical examiner has attributed the direct cause of death to causes other than the Taser." Amnesty is not convinced, however, and wants an independent study of the effects of all existing and emerging electric-shock weapons.


Hmmmmmm....and 30,000 shots with a hand gun would have resulted in how many deaths? But Amnesty is not convinced.....hmmmmmmm. Must mean they prefer the police have no weapons at all. That makes a lot of sense.
4 posted on 06/16/2004 5:13:43 PM PDT by LOC1
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To: gubamyster; HiJinx

I wonder if they'll sell them to border property owners?


5 posted on 06/16/2004 5:14:25 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!..-> http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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To: My2Cents

Okay, so now we have ray guns. I am still waiting for flying cars!


6 posted on 06/16/2004 5:17:06 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: LibWhacker
But human rights groups are appalled by the fact that no independent safety tests have been carried out, and by their potential for indiscriminate use.

Why not try it out at the DNC convention?

7 posted on 06/16/2004 5:22:48 PM PDT by rickmichaels (Liberals can kiss my Canadian ass)
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To: LibWhacker
By wearing a chain mail - or, if you are not a reenactor, a metallized or otherwise electroconductive clothing and shoes, and moisturizing your exposed skin with saline solution for the same purpose - your clothing will become your own lightning rod and you will be similarly protected.
8 posted on 06/16/2004 5:24:33 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: LibWhacker

New York would be a very good place for tests at the end of August and beginning of September.


9 posted on 06/16/2004 5:24:34 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Dark Wing; Dog Gone

ping


10 posted on 06/16/2004 5:26:45 PM PDT by Thud
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To: LibWhacker

I knew my Y2K tinfoil suit would eventually come in handy...


11 posted on 06/16/2004 5:29:12 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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12 posted on 06/16/2004 5:33:24 PM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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To: Joe 6-pack; GSlob
I think they're going to outlaw tinfoil next!


13 posted on 06/16/2004 5:35:00 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
TINFOIL HAT beginning to glow, little propeller on top spinning madly

Yeah this is a perfect device for FEMA to use in the relocation of "detainees" to the camps. Helps keep the sheeple from becoming too resistant to doing the master's bidding, ya know.

14 posted on 06/16/2004 5:36:58 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic.)
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To: LibWhacker

How to counter such a gas emmision, fans, fire extinguishers.

What happens if the wind blows enough of the gas back onto the police?

Seems this would work as a MOAB or Daisy cutter more than a point and shoot.

You could even "mine" protest locations in advance, crowd gets rowdy, ZAP the whole area and pick up the bodies.

Of course the people with pacemakers and unknown heart problems with sue, sue, sue.


15 posted on 06/16/2004 5:37:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: LibWhacker

Well, then I'll have to wear old rusty chain mail. No fun at 50 pounds.


16 posted on 06/16/2004 5:40:08 PM PDT by GSlob
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17 posted on 06/16/2004 5:40:40 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: LibWhacker

I see. The laser beams in Star Wars didn't do damage, but carried electrical current along the laser beams which did damage. Won't work in a vacuum.


19 posted on 06/16/2004 5:47:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: LakotaAmerican

Call me pessimistic but as a student of Human Nature I think that when ANYONE gets a weapon that is very forceful and irresistable thay WILL use it because of the unique power it gives them. I've been wondering when it will come along...to date it hasen't arrived yet. But they're out there trying.


20 posted on 06/16/2004 5:52:29 PM PDT by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....")
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