Jiang Jiang Jiang went the twolley.
Posted on 06/14/2004 11:23:23 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - China is sending nuclear technology to Iran in exchange for oil and allowing North Korea to use Chinese air, rail and seaports to ship missiles and other weapons, congressional investigators reported on Tuesday.
Although the Bush administration has emphasized a growing convergence with Beijing on halting the spread of weapons of mass destruction and countering terrorism, the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission took a much harder line.
"China's continued failure to adequately curb its proliferation practices poses significant national security concerns to the United States," the commission said in its annual report.
It also raised the possibility the administration is using "inducements" -- such as not being tough enough with Beijing on trade infractions -- to reward China for its cooperation on the North Korea nuclear crisis.
The U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, established by Congress in 2000, tends to be skeptical of Beijing, and its conclusions are often controversial.
"China's assistance to weapons of mass destruction-related programs in countries of concern continues, despite repeated promises to end such activities and the repeated imposition of U.S. sanctions," the commission concluded.
This "calls into question the effectiveness" of Washington's partnership with Beijing, the panel said.
Unlike the 1990s, "Chinese transfers have evolved from sales of complete missile systems to exports of largely dual-use nuclear, chemical, and missile components and technologies; qualitatively, these transfers are equally worrisome," it said.
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Dual-use refers to items that could be used for either weapons-related or peaceful pursuits.
"Continuing intelligence reports indicate that Chinese cooperation with Pakistan and Iran remains an integral element of China's foreign policy," the commission reported.
It said cooperation on North Korea is a "critical test" of U.S.-China relations, but Beijing is not using its substantial leverage to force Pyongyang to end its nuclear programs. While making made much of hosting six-party talks aimed at resolving the nuclear crisis, Beijing "continues to permit North Korea to use its air, rail and seaports to trans-ship ballistic missiles and WMD-related materials," the commission reported.
U.S. officials, in recent public testimony and interviews with Reuters, put different emphases on China's behavior, underscoring continued differences over proliferation issues.
Chinese leaders have told the Americans any nuclear-related trafficking is done without the government's knowledge.
The State Department recently sanctioned five Chinese companies for trading with Iran, but the commission faulted this focus, saying many companies have direct ties to top level government and military officials.
The commission said China's growing energy needs are "driving it into bilateral arrangements ... that may involve dangerous weapons transfers." Iran is a key oil producing country.
"This need for energy security may help explain Beijing's history of assistance to terrorist-sponsoring states, with various forms of WMD-related items and technical assistance, even in the face of U.S. sanctions," it said.
Jiang Jiang Jiang went the twolley.
Chinese still haggling with U.S. over Taiwan using N. Korea. N. Korea is not China's nice pet, but rather a wild beast pretending to be a pet. China is still playing dicey game. They may get burned.
On 9/11 I said that China was responsible for the Islamist's terrorism. I still say that today. It fits their MO perfectly, having others do their dirty work. Their arrogance doesn't allow the Chinese to admit that in the end their "employees" might turn on them as well. Same goes for Russia arming China. The most likely place for those weapons to be used would be in Siberia against the Russians. Dumb asses.
Another thank you to Mr. Clinton for transferring all that nuclear, missile and guidance technology to China.
We reap what you constantly screwed up while getting screwed in the people's house.
Not so easy if North Korea becomes problem--or if China acts out against Hong Kong democracy advocates or Taiwan independence movement.
So you say the "lips and teeth" metaphor masks North Korea's dangerous schizophrenia causing consternation in Beijing.
Interesting times all around.
Yeah, I agree that Russia could have its own blowback. Especially Chinese folks gradually settle in sparsely populated Siberia. That is how China got hold of Manchuria and Inner Mongolia. Both regions were scarcely populated by nomadic tribes. Chinese peasants streamed in and settled there over generations. Eventually the whole places were overrun by Chinese. Natives became minorities.
Once enough Chinese settles in Siberia and call for autonomy, Chinese would be happy to back them up with new weapons built with Russian help, and eventually asorb the area into the motherland.
Actually Manchuria fell into "Chinese" control under the reign of Kublai Khan during the Yuan dynasty when China was first unified under one Kingdom.
Well, after Yuan dynasty fell, Manchuria broke off and locals reasserted their control. During the Ming dynasty, China had garrisons in Shenyang. However, Han Chinese did not live there in large numbers. The furtherest Han Chinese went up was Liaodong. When Manchus overthrew Ming and established Ching dynasty, Manchus enforced a strict ban on migration of Han Chinese into Manchu homeland to safeguard their homeland from the influx of Han Chinese.
This ban broke down in early 19th century when Ching dynasty began to decline. Han Chinese peasants migrated en mass and settled there. Now Han Chinese make up most of population in Manchuria.
Ping!
Ultimately, unless we act now (as Reagan did IMHO) to avoid it, they will act themselves once we are heavily engaged in a couple of other places around the world (ie. Mid East and Lorea).
That is one of the principle themes and warnings of the Dragon's Fury Series and it continues to be very relevent today.
The chinese have plans. We're included...perhaps unfortunately.
Thanks for the indepth post. Fortunately, I am very aware of Chinese history as it is not only one of my hobbies, but also an area that I study quite extensively as part of my degree.
All of what you say is very true. It's just that your original post made it sound as if though the only way the Chinese came to control Manchuria was through Han migration. I simply wanted to point out that Manchuria was already a part of China before the migration actually began to take place. One thing that you didn't not is that when the Manchus ruled during the Qing dynasty is that they tried quite extensively to keep the Han out of Manchuria because they feared exactly you stated in the second post.
One can be sure that China has its eyes set on Sibera. It is abundant in natural resources and it is scarcely populated. Aside from the illegal migration to Sibera that takes place on the part of the Chinese, Russia has actually encouraged "immigration" by the Chinese and even some N. Koreans as part of a movement to populate and develop the area, but I have a feeling that it will blow up in their face. Especially since China is bent on taking back all possesion of land that has been taken from them in previous wars and or "treaties".
Now that's scary...........
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