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Once I was blind, now I see
Belmont Club ^ | June 11, 2004 | Wretchard

Posted on 06/12/2004 6:08:34 AM PDT by billorites

Andrew Sullivan lists out the contemporaneous reactions of Arthur Schlesinger, Strobe Talbott and many leading journalists toward Ronald Reagan's attempt to actively confront the Soviet Union in the 1980s. Reagan's more thoughtful critics objected to the rollback policy as an abandonment of the policy of containment in place since the end of the Second World War. But the majority felt Reagan's policies were beneath serious rebuttal. The very attempt was dismissed as "weird"; a "national hallucination", a mutant form of "McCarthyism", a "primitive" reaction from an "evangelical" who in any case was "mindless" when he was not being "pathological". Sullivan concludes:

"Rest in peace, Mr. President. And know that after all these years, you were right - and all these people were clearly, emphatically, embarrassingly, wrong."

The interesting question is why they were so wrong. One possible answer is that Reagan's critics were themselves unconsciously in the grip of a "hallucination", which prevented them from seeing the facts as they were. We now know that the Soviet economy was a sham; its vaunted armies were hollow; its hold over subject peoples increasingly tenuous. But at that time many believed the opposite, and not just the editorial desk at the New York Times. When Tom Clancy published the Hunt for the Red October in 1984 it was premised around the existence of a Soviet super submarine whose missiles posed an existential threat to American defenses. Russian fighters were so good America that had to send Clint Eastwood to steal one in Firefox (1982); Lockheed and McDonnell Douglas being too primitive to come up with an equivalent on their own. It's hard to remember how downbeat, how beaten America was in 1984, nine years out of the fall of Saigon; four years after the shock which took oil prices to $80 a barrel in 2002 terms; four years after Iranian Revolutionary Guards seized a US embassy without Washington being able to do a thing about it. Theatergoers anted up to watch Red Dawn, starring a young Patrick Swayze and Charlie Sheen, whose plot featured a Soviet invasion of the Continental United States:

Cast your mind back to the 1980s. The Soviet Union suffers its worst agricultural crisis in fifty-five years. Communist Cuba and Nicaragua each reach troop strength levels of 500,000, infiltrating and fomenting Marxist revolution in Mexico. The Green Party takes control of the West German government and bans American nuclear missiles on German soil, leaving Europe undefended to Warsaw Pact troops in the East and causing the eventual dissolution of NATO. In Colorado, on a crisp, clear autumn morning, Soviet paratroopers who infiltrated the country on passenger planes drop from the skies on an unsuspecting little town in the heart of America, thus starting World War III. When the war starts, a group of teenagers in Colorado escape to the neighboring mountains where they eventually wage a limited guerilla war against the Russian, Cuban, and Nicaraguan soldiers occupying their town. This is the premise of John Milius's 1984 film "Red Dawn."

Today Arthur Schlesinger's assessment of Reagan, written with such serious and deluded assurance, has something of the air of those scratchy old newsreels showing a turkey-necked Neville Chamberlain fluttering a paper bearing Herr Hitler's signature. Funny now but nobody was laughing in 1938, and Chamberlain waved his paper to the cheers of the crowd. James Lileks, hardly a stupid person, honestly relates the contempt he then felt toward Ronald Reagan's policies:

It’s 1983; I’m working at the Minnesota Daily, in the editorial department. Smart friends, common purpose, and by God a paper to put out! It gets no better when you’re in your 20s. We didn’t hate Reagan; we viewed him with indulgent contempt, since he was so obviously out of his depth. I mean, please: an actor? As president? (This from a generation that got its politics from “All The President’s Men.” This from a generation that would later embrace Martin Sheen as the ne plus ultra of all things presidential.) He was in a movie with a talking monkey, for heaven’s sake. That was all you really needed to know. “Bedtime for Bonzo,” you’d say with a smirk or a conspicuous rolling of the eyes, and everyone would nod. Idiot. Empty-headed grinning high-haired uberdad. Of course he was popular among the groundlings. It would be laughable if it weren’t so typical - he was just the sort of fool the voters could be trusted to elect.

Reagan was worse than stupid – he was conspicuously indifferent to our futures. It was generally accepted that he either wanted a nuclear war or was too dim to understand the consequences. It went without saying that he didn’t read Schell’s “Fate of the Earth.” It went without saying that he didn’t read anything at all.

"It was generally accepted" is an oblique reference to a "consensus" so pervasive as to be imperceptible; a thing so ingrained in popular opinion, like the flatness of the earth, that given a choice between believing our eyes and rejecting conventional wisdom, we preferred to cast away our sight. "And none so blind," Jonathan Swift once said, "as they that won't see". Wikipedia defines "groupthink" as:

a term coined by psychologist Irving Janis in 1972 to describe one process by which a group can make bad or irrational decisions. In a groupthink situation, each member of the group attempts to conform his or her opinions to what they believe to be the consensus of the group. This results in a situation in which the group ultimately agrees on an action which each member might normally consider to be unwise.

Janis's original definition of the term was "a mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' strivings for unanimity override their motivation to realistically appraise alternative courses of action." The word groupthink itself is intentionally reminiscent of George Orwell's coinages (such as doublethink and duckspeak) from the fictional language Newspeak, which he portrayed in his ideological novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. Groupthink tends to occur on committees and in large organizations, and has been cited as a contributing factor in the Vietnam War, Bay of Pigs Invasion, both the Space Shuttle Challenger Disaster and the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, and the bankruptcy of Enron.

Sophisticates unwittingly paid Reagan a compliment by calling him a cowboy, by which they meant gunslinger, instead of in the more accurate sense of a man able to see nature without blinders; to know things for what they were. Although Ronald Reagan has left the nation a huge legacy of achievement still it would be incomplete and his bequest to posterity less final if we forget that his greatest strength was to think for himself and dare to do the same.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belmontclub; ronaldreagan

1 posted on 06/12/2004 6:08:35 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

Old timers (like me) should click on the Andrew Sullivan link to read some great quotes from the "intellectuals" in the press back in the early 1980s. I especially like the one from "Princeton Professor Stephen Cohen", that slimy looking bastard was all over the news back then trashing Reagan. Seems like history has proven that the actor/cowboy/dimwit was smarter than the vaunted Ivy League professor!


2 posted on 06/12/2004 6:21:48 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: billorites
Well the truth is that they were not blind to the Soviet 's condition, they were fellow travelers - they were all Fabian socialists. They either thought the political tyranny of the USSR was some sort of Russian cultural aberration that distorted the true faith or they all and all thought it would be a good think to have our very own "Nomenklatur" over here. What they were blind to is the size, power and passion of the American Conservative movement.

And they are still out there. Traitors one and all.

Pace Red Dawn, were those films of the period made to rouse America out if its slumber or were they intended to dispirit us into accommodation with the USSR.

4 posted on 06/12/2004 6:27:06 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: billorites

"We didn’t hate Reagan; we viewed him with indulgent contempt, since he was so obviously out of his depth."

Someone over the weekend asked why they hate Bush so much, when his principles are so close to Reagan's.

The answer given was because we just came off Carter, he just was such a "breath of fresh air".

But my answer lies in the above sentence - Reagan was viewed with "indulgent contempt" because the left thought conservatism was dead, and they had nothing to fear. Then Reagan changed the worldm and brought democracy to the masses.

They are not going to make the same mistake with Bush. The claws were out for Bush from Day 1. Bush would change the world too, and bring democracy to the ME, if given half a chance and the true support of this nation.

The left here disgusts me.


5 posted on 06/12/2004 6:27:44 AM PDT by I still care
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To: billorites
I have to put this quote in, that I found -

"I'm proud that I stood against Ronald Reagan, not with him, when his intelligence agencies were abusing the Constitution of the United States and when he was running an illegal war in Central America." - John F. Kerry, Democrat National Committee, 2003

6 posted on 06/12/2004 6:32:39 AM PDT by I still care
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To: I still care

Thanks for posting that quote. Kerry would bring this country to disaster.


7 posted on 06/12/2004 6:40:35 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: I still care
Just remember that when the Sandinistas tried to return to power recently under banners of religion and happiness, the voters turned them down.

I know people who were wandering around stunned when that happened. All one can do is smile.

Reagan was right.

I turned to my husband while we were watching the final ceremonies last night and commented that all over America leftists were taken w/fits of projectile vomiting, the product of which would appear in all the media starting today. He prophesized that this would only lead to individual dehydration and even fewer subscribers to those outlets.

Thank you, Mr President. It IS morning again in America and this time we won't fall asleep and allow the left its inevitable tyranny over the majority.

God Bless Reagan and God Bless Dubya.

Kerry will eat those words.
8 posted on 06/12/2004 6:46:15 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: I still care; ALOHA RONNIE
I have to put this [Kerry] quote in, that I found [Saying he is proud to have opposed Reagan]-

I dream of a Republic that knows when to and has the initiative defend itself. Now we have a "Democracy" where the sheep want to lead us into the jaws of wolves. It's no wonder that patriots sometimes have to take drastic actions that violate the letter of our Constitution. It's no wonder we've had a Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Iran-Contra affair, and an apology from Colin Powell over "WMDs." Every one of those risks were taken because the alternative was something closer to surrender than respecting the Constitution. Respecting the Constitution means defending it just as much as obeying it. Kerry's record is a failure in both areas. He's failed to respect and protect the 2nd amendment, he's committed near treason in the VVAW, and fought defense spending at almost every opportunity.

Kerry would defend the constitution by shredding the amendment that defends all the others, and he'd put the pieces in the fires of international condemnation of America's power and sovereignty.

9 posted on 06/12/2004 6:54:02 AM PDT by risk
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To: reformedliberal
Kerry will eat those words.

I have a better place for him to put those words other than his mouth..

10 posted on 06/12/2004 7:13:19 AM PDT by shiva
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To: billorites
We didn’t hate Reagan; we viewed him with indulgent contempt, since he was so obviously out of his depth. I mean, please: an actor? As president?

And now I read the left is saying that George W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan, that there is a stature gap. They begrudgingly give Reagan his due, at least in part, because the reality of history leaves them no other choice. I believe that history will again give them no choice when it comes to George W. Bush. They will pull up his speeches and talk about his vision and his overplayed language errors will be transformed into a part of his charm. The economic and national security challenges he guided us through will be seen as monumental. And the dignity and stature he returned to the White House will be contrasted to the wasted and ultimately cynical Clinton years.

11 posted on 06/12/2004 8:02:13 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Eurotwit

ping


12 posted on 06/12/2004 8:05:05 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out)
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To: Bahbah

Oh, there are tons of them. I think JimRob should post at the top of the site a "Kerry quote of the day".

We should send the man some salt and pepper to make his words a little more appetizing, when he eats them.

How about this one?

Jan 30, 1992 -I am saddened by the fact that Vietnam has yet again been inserted into the campaign, and that it has been inserted in what I feel to be the worst possible way....We do not need to divide America over who served and how.


13 posted on 06/12/2004 8:49:27 AM PDT by I still care
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