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History tells us that most conflicts end in chaos
Daily Telegraph ^ | June 1, 2004 | John Keegan

Posted on 06/01/2004 8:51:53 AM PDT by Lyford

History is useful. That, at any rate, is the theme of Alan Bennett's new play, The History Boys. History gets you into a good university. History gets you a good job. History is a key to cracking the secret of life.

Or is it? I have been a dedicated history boy for 50 years but these past few months I have begun to wonder if history is any use at all. Britain and the United States have got into a difficult situation in Iraq and the entire Western media are reacting as if an unprecedented disaster is about to overwhelm their armed forces and governments.

A popular American President is, according to the media, threatened with defeat at the polls. An exceptionally successful British Prime Minister has suddenly become a liability to his party. The American army is not only painted with war crime but is apparently unable to mount an effective minor operation against a small Iraqi city. The British Army has only with difficulty extricated itself from other charges. The British and American media retail with evident satisfaction every scrap of information that implicates its service people in wrongdoing, casts doubt on their operational efficiency and undermines any expectation by readers and viewers of a successful outcome to the Iraqi involvement.

The media's message is clear: Iraq is a mess that should never have been allowed to happen. Yet media people are precisely the sort who know perfectly well that wars usually end in a mess.

Many of them, by training, are history boys or history girls. Moreover, they have been trained to perceive reasons why some wars end neatly and others do not.

The Second World War, which has largely formed Western attitudes to war termination, ended neatly for simple reasons: both the Germans and Japanese had had the stuffing knocked out of them. Their cities had been burnt out or bombed flat, millions of their young men had been killed in battle, so had hundreds of thousands of their women and children by strategic bombing. The Japanese were actually starving, while the Germans looked to their Western occupiers both to feed them and to save them from the spectre of Soviet rule. Two highly disciplined and law-abiding populations meekly submitted to defeat.

Because we in the Atlantic region remember 1945 as the year of victory over our deadliest enemies, we usually forget that the Second World War did not end neatly in other parts of the world. In Greece, the guerrilla war against the Germans became a civil war which lasted until 1949 and killed 150,000 people. Peace never really came to Japanese-occupied Asia. In China, Vietnam, Indonesia and Burma, the Second World War became several wars of national liberation, lasting years and killing hundreds of thousands. In Burma, the civil war persists.

The aftermath of the First World War was worse. On Armistice night, Lloyd George, leaving the House of Commons with Winston Churchill, remarked: "The war of the giants is over. The war of the pygmies is about to begin." The pygmies, in civil wars in Germany, Hungary, Poland, the Baltic states, Finland and above all Russia, went on fighting for years, killing or starving to death millions. A full-blown war of conquest by Greece against Turkey ended in a Greek humiliation but also 300,000 deaths.

And there was, of course, a war in Iraq, caused by Britain's attempt to enforce the mandate to rule granted by the League of Nations. Britain eventually prevailed, but at the cost of 6,000 Iraqi deaths and 500 in its own forces. British casualties in this war scarcely exceed 100. Then, as now, the occupiers complained that "every Iraqi has a rifle".

History boys can explain easily - and convincingly - why some wars, as that against Germany in 1945, end in unopposed occupation of enemy territory and why others, as in Iraq in 1920 and 2004, do not. In the first case, the defeated nation has exhausted itself in the struggle and is dependent on the victor both for necessities and for protection against further disaster - social revolution or aggression by another enemy. In the second case, the war has not done much harm but has broken the power of the state and encouraged the dispossessed and the irresponsible to grab what they can before order is fully restored.

What monopolises the headlines and prime time television at the moment is news from Iraq on the activity of small, localised minorities struggling to entrench themselves before full peace is imposed and an effective state structure is restored. The news is, in fact, very repetitive: disorder in Najaf and Fallujah, misbehaviour by a tiny handful of US Army reservists - not properly trained regular soldiers - in one prison. There is nothing from Iraq's other 8,000 towns and villages, nothing from Kurdistan, where complete peace prevails, very little from Basra, where British forces are on good terms with the residents.

I have been recovering from major surgery for the past few weeks and so have overdosed myself on daytime television - Richard and Judy, Crucible snooker, I Want that House, A Place in Greece. Most of it is entirely forgettable. There is, however, an undeniable fascination in watching Jon Snow, of Channel 4 News, energise himself for his early evening denunciation of Anglo-American activity in Iraq. About 5.30 he comes on to rehearse his sense of outrage. At 7pm we get the full display of apoplexy and hysteria - raised voice, flushed face, physical trembles.

I do not know whether Jon Snow is a history boy who has decided to suppress what he knows in favour of his commitment to drama studies. I do know that he, and the serried ranks of self-appointed strategic commentators who currently dominate the written and visual media's treatment of the Iraq story, have a duty to stop indulging their emotions and start remembering a bit of post-war history. Iraq 2004 is not Greece 1945, not Indochina 1946-54, not Algeria 1953-62 and certainly not "Vietnam".

It is a regrettable but not wholly to be unexpected outcome of a campaign to overthrow a dangerous Third World dictator. If those who show themselves so eager to denounce the American President and the British Prime Minister feel strongly enough on the issue, please will they explain their reasons for wishing that Saddam Hussein should still be in power in Baghdad.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; history; iraq; keegan; telegraph
Another good perspective piece, this one from across the Atlantic...
1 posted on 06/01/2004 8:51:53 AM PDT by Lyford
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To: Lyford

Keegan assumes, perhaps politely, that these journalists really believe the swill they are peddling. That strains credulity. Of course they know better. But they have a mission in life: to depose Bush and bring in the Millennium of Socialist Perfection (until the Arabs overwhelm them).


2 posted on 06/01/2004 9:02:57 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lyford
History tells us that most conflicts end in chaos, ie: a state of total confusion and lack of order

Who wudda thunk it?

Will someone find out where these idiots come from, and plug the hole?

3 posted on 06/01/2004 9:09:30 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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To: Cicero

Frankly, many Brits in the media chafe at the thought of their "Colonies" saving their butts twice. They resent our power and the so-called guilt-trip leverage they think we use on Britain to "drag" it into foreign "misadventures". Why can't America just be good little colonists like the Canadians and Aussies? God Save the Queen!


4 posted on 06/01/2004 9:17:48 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: Lyford
If those who show themselves so eager to denounce the American President and the British Prime Minister feel strongly enough on the issue, please will they explain their reasons for wishing that Saddam Hussein should still be in power in Baghdad.

The Arabists in the State Department would say that only by placing tyrants in power is "stability" in the Middle East assured. If they really were "history boys," They would know that this policy, which has been in place since the Brits overthrew the Turks, has never produced stability.

5 posted on 06/01/2004 9:37:49 AM PDT by RobbyS
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".... the serried ranks of self-appointed strategic commentators.....have a duty to stop indulging their emotions and start remembering a bit of post-war history.

The Bush Administration should just let the Left "cry themselves to sleep" each night. They're not wet, they're not hungry. They just want attention.

6 posted on 06/01/2004 9:41:37 AM PDT by elbucko (Iraq & Quaker Oats; "It's the right thing to do".)
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To: Cicero
...."Millennium of Socialist Perfection (until the Arabs overwhelm them)."

Well put.

7 posted on 06/01/2004 9:45:03 AM PDT by elbucko (Iraq & Quaker Oats; "It's the right thing to do".)
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To: Lyford
I do not know whether Jon Snow is a history boy who has decided to suppress what he knows in favour of his commitment to drama studies. I do know that he, and the serried ranks of self-appointed strategic commentators who currently dominate the written and visual media's treatment of the Iraq story, have a duty to stop indulging their emotions and start remembering a bit of post-war history.

SERRY: Dictionary Meaning and Entry

\Ser"ry\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Serried}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Serrying}.] [F. serrer, LL. serrare, serare, from L. sera a bar, bolt; akin to serere to join or bind together. See {Serries}.]
To crowd; to press together.

Note: [Now perhaps only in the form serried, p. p. or a.]

8 posted on 06/01/2004 11:06:07 AM PDT by happygrl (The democrats are trying to pave a road to the white house with the bodies of dead American soldiers)
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To: Lyford
Among other points; R.Rummell tell us that. . .

. Free people do not make war on each other, and the greater the freedom within two nations, the less violence between them.

. Freedom is a method of nonviolence--the most peaceful nations are those whose people are free.

Two very good reasons to facilitate democratic processes for any country.

9 posted on 06/01/2004 12:49:14 PM PDT by cricket (Liberals are a scourge . . .)
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To: BOBWADE; zip

ping


10 posted on 06/01/2004 7:55:16 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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